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BMW would never have a FI //M Car. BMW would never put the same N54 from a 55k BMW into a 35k 135i BMW would never build an SUV BMW would never //M an SUV Dare I go on? BMW is very unpredictable these days.
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Good stuff in the works and in no time that info will be out as well... The Motorsports line is something that has been greatly lacking. And as you said ALL after market stuff voids the warranty: including Dinan. What I can not understand is why people spend a lot of money on a fine piece of engineering and then "mod" it with a hack job such as a piggy back (not stating any specific company and some Re-write the code which is great, and offer additional cooling which is smart). Most of the people I assume lease their cars and could care less about long term reliability. What Stephen told me further was that BMW tested various upgrades, additional cooling systems and such and what they will be releasing did the best all around, and while it does not have the most power (and it more than likely will be underrated) it will not destroy the rest of the car. It was also understood by me that the transmission and rear are the two weak points of the drive train and they really were not designed for much more power; the diesels are a whole different story -M
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Why are other tunes "hack jobs" simply becasue they arent produced by BMW? Their tune is really only gonna be worth around $200 (when compared to the competition), but theyre still gonna charge you an extra $2000 in case shit happens. You are really just paying to fix your car before anything goes wrong. The tune may not void the warranty, but your pretty much just paying for a new one. |
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There is no public price at this moment. Remember you are paying for peace of mind (warranty), reliability, and the name. I have a conference call with Stephen tomorrow, as scheduled monthly, I will report whatever I am able to make public.
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Much appreciated Dan. It would be nice for BMW to offer us something. I'm not taking anything away from the talented turbo tuners out there but this does offer the ultimate peace of mind. Once this tune is released, I have a feeling BMW will become more aggressive with aftermarket tunes. It would only make sense. Can anybody honestly correlate resale values with modded cars versus non-modified? The majority of these cars are leased over there competition after all.
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It is the same reason BMW could not bring those seats here: testing costs money, and not many would pay $4k for a seat even though it is by far the greatest seat offered. A piggy back is a few hundred bucks gives you a lot of power, and zero guarantee of things working out. My intention posting was not to make this a battle, but there is a reason why things cost more and as my mom always says : "You get what you pay for." I would guess if you are in a two year lease and want to race light to light the cheap way makes sense, for owners and people that are keeping their car for 6-8 years it makes little. Moral of the story is: BMW Performance will give those that like the idea of a BMW engineered product, with a warranty and tons of testing an OPTION, which in my book is a great thing. So you have your piggy backs, DINAN and BMW Performance. Sure beats nothing. To each their own... it is just nice to see BMW is joining the tuning ranks Everyone is entitled to their own opinion and can weigh things as how important they are to them.
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What pisses me off is that in order to mod our cars without fear of warranty issues we are forced to purchase overpriced BMW parts. |
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Sort of like that LCD TV- You open the back of it up and put a chip in there to make it Super Duper HD and the thing melts... who is at fault then? There is a warranty on that TV (and also a nice sticker that states void if opened). Is a car all that different? Are you going to bad mouth Sharp for not honoring the warranty? And people that quote the MM Act have no clue what that states... On that note I resign from this thread, as this was not its intention and I rather not take part in a tuner vs. tuner battle. -M
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So if a add a CAI and my fuel pump dies its the intake's fault becasue its not the stock airbox?? Im not talking about a tune, im talking about mods in general. By adding a piggy back to a car you're essentially changing everything about it, so in that respect i agree with you. Im talking about how one can add something as meaningless as a replacement filter and BMW would still take action against that person. |
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Hey maxx, I don't think they plan on adding it as standard. They technically should've done it when the 3series received its face-lift.
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I totally forgot about that. Good catch!
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Please do - hopefully it's available May 20th when I take my car in for it's first service interval. Might as well add some BMW-warranteed hp, lighter wheels, and an exhaust. Wonder if they'll install the cp-e exhuast for me if I buy the N54 hp upgrade?
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Excellent thread!!
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