Out of Warranty: Remove Mods for Recall?

dsh135 · 10-04-2014, 09:55 AM

Finally getting in for the VANOS bolts recall next week. My car is a 03/10 build 2011 model so it's out of warranty, but I'm just wondering if there's any reason I should be taking my mods off (JB4/meth)? I'd rather not, but just thinking of a worst case scenario where they screw something up and later I have to convince them that any problems I'm having are due to their work (assuming it is). How invasive is this repair? Anyone know if they'll have to remove the JB anyway if I do leave it on?

Suds · 10-04-2014, 10:03 AM

I am planning on leaving the intercooler and charge pipe but removing anything tune related.

MightyMouseTech · 10-04-2014, 10:15 AM

If you are having the recall done, I wouldn't worry about it. A recall is a legal requirement, they can not refuse whatever the mods.

dcaron9999 · 10-04-2014, 03:10 PM

Subscribed. Im getting my recall done next week as well. Will remove my Cobb AP3 /PTF custom map because its so simple to do. The rest of my mods are staying in though ....

Miko226 · 10-04-2014, 03:21 PM

turn off so they can access DME

e36addict · 10-04-2014, 04:51 PM

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Originally Posted by MightyMouseTech

If you are having the recall done, I wouldn't worry about it. A recall is a legal requirement, they can not refuse whatever the mods.

This

Dackelone · 10-04-2014, 05:43 PM

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Originally Posted by MightyMouseTech

If you are having the recall done, I wouldn't worry about it. A recall is a legal requirement, they can not refuse whatever the mods.

+2.

ShocknAwe · 10-04-2014, 07:25 PM

For whatever it's worth. If you have a JB4 you can set it to map 0, then plug it into your laptop and disable the steering wheel controls. So they can't easily tell it's there unless the open up the box. As far as I know anyways.

If it's for out of warranty recall work, I wouldn't remove anything. Meth would be the only thing I would consider taking out. And even that... you're out of warranty! As said before they have to perform the recall work at no cost to you.

NihonX · 10-04-2014, 08:31 PM

I had work done on the 1M for a battery cable recall or whatever and I never removed any mods. I DID disable the tune before handing over the keys though. Mind you, I wasn't worried about ruining my warranty at the time. I'm well past the mileage limit on the initial warranty now.

Just don't give them a reason to delay the recall because something (tune) is preventing them from accessing the OBD. They can't deny you simply because your car is modified.

dsh135 · 10-05-2014, 08:55 AM

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They can't deny you simply because your car is modified.

Thanks for all of the input. I know they can't deny the recall. I'm just thinking if they screw something-up with the repair that leads to procedure-related problems shortly thereafter, I don't want them blaming the mods instead of their own handiwork. The fairly straightforward (I think) nature of this repair may make that a remote possibility however.

dsh135 · 10-05-2014, 09:04 AM

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They can't deny you simply because your car is modified.

Thanks for all of the input. I know they can't deny the recall. I'm just thinking if they screw something-up with the repair that leads to procedure-related problems shortly thereafter, I don't want them blaming the mods instead of their own handiwork. The fairly straightforward (I think) nature of this repair may make that a remote possibility however.

Tony135 · 10-07-2014, 04:48 PM

Mine is going in tomorrow and I'm leaving all mods on. I will set to map 0 though.

JimUlrich135 · 10-07-2014, 09:52 PM

Nah, you'll be fine. I've done several with mods. Recall, like stated above, is an auto fix by the manufacture, no if ands or buts. No need to worry.

e36addict · 10-08-2014, 07:54 AM

Only thing I would worry about with JB4 is the tech routing the harness wrong.. I've seen it before. Most techs are mod-stupid and don't understand how any of it works, so after work is done i'd just double check the JB harness/connectors and make sure nothing is kinked/chafing.

dsh135 · 10-09-2014, 04:06 PM

So I brought my car in with mods in-place for the VANOS repair this morning, as well as the battery cable recall which I never had done. They told me in the morning that they would probably have it done by the end of the day but the service guy just called to say they're "having some difficulty getting it all back together" (tore a gasket and whatever) so it'll have to stay overnight and new ETA is noon tomorrow. Not exactly confidence-inspiring.

dsh135 · 10-09-2014, 04:10 PM

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Nah, you'll be fine. I've done several with mods. Recall, like stated above, is an auto fix by the manufacture, no if ands or buts. No need to worry.

Is this a difficult repair? They're making it sound like it is.

dcaron9999 · 10-09-2014, 05:34 PM

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Originally Posted by dsh135

Is this a difficult repair? They're making it sound like it is.

Got the VANOS Bolt recall done today. Went flawlessly and took them 3.5 hours to do.

This dealership has done 90 VANOS recall jobs so far, and were pretty comfortable with the task.

They found no broken bolt heads, but went ahead and replaced them as per procedure.

Pedigree:
2011 135i which sees a lot of track time, and several oil changes per season.

May 2010 Prod date with 67,000Kms on the odometer ...

jafo1701 · 10-09-2014, 11:11 PM

I left my on. Granted all I had was the charge pipe and intercooler. Took em 2 days to get it done. They just called me at 5 tonight and said it was done. I'll pick it up in the morning. Guessing since it took so long they actually replaced the bolts. Which is good.

dsh135 · 10-10-2014, 06:46 PM

Picked-up the car today and gave her a good "shakedown" on the way home. Happy to say all seems ok at this point, no weird noises or hiccups. I laughed when I read the work order, they wrote, "CEL illuminated at time of service - vehicle has some sort of aftermarket chip installed underhood and mass air flow meter by by airbox connection taped up with blue tape".
I guess the jig is up.

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dsh135 Private 9 Rep 75 Posts Drives: 2011 BMW 135i Join Date: Apr 2013 Location: Toronto-ish iTrader: (0)	Out of Warranty: Remove Mods for Recall? Finally getting in for the VANOS bolts recall next week. My car is a 03/10 build 2011 model so it's out of warranty, but I'm just wondering if there's any reason I should be taking my mods off (JB4/meth)? I'd rather not, but just thinking of a worst case scenario where they screw something up and later I have to convince them that any problems I'm having are due to their work (assuming it is). How invasive is this repair? Anyone know if they'll have to remove the JB anyway if I do leave it on?
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Suds /M Enthusiast 1599 Rep 1,618 Posts Drives: Responsiblish Join Date: Aug 2010 Location: Lone Star State iTrader: (1)	I am planning on leaving the intercooler and charge pipe but removing anything tune related.
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MightyMouseTech Major General 4338 Rep 6,196 Posts Drives: 13 135i 6MT LeMans Blue MSport Join Date: Feb 2013 Location: Ottawa, Canada iTrader: (0)	If you are having the recall done, I wouldn't worry about it. A recall is a legal requirement, they can not refuse whatever the mods.
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dcaron9999 Major 157 Rep 1,409 Posts Drives: 2011 135i M package Join Date: Jan 2010 Location: Mirabel, Quebec iTrader: (0)	Subscribed. Im getting my recall done next week as well. Will remove my Cobb AP3 /PTF custom map because its so simple to do. The rest of my mods are staying in though .... __________________ 2011 X3 35i with M pack + 2011 135i w/6SPMT \| 255 square tire setup \| Quaife 3.46 LSD \| Diff lock down bracket \| Bilstein B8+Swift SpecR springs+H&R FSB \| CDV delete \| BMS Oil Tstat bypass \| ER FMIC & CP \| N54Tuning DP \| GC Street Camber Plates \| M3 FCA +guide rods+RSFB's+Tranny mounts \| Manzo toe arms \| Cobb Stg2 agressive tune \| Hawk DTC70 brake pads \| RB SS brake pistons \| Goodridge SS brake lines \| Custom brake cooling ducts
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ShocknAwe 1Addict 3233 Rep 7,894 Posts Drives: E82 Mutt, M57 Truck Join Date: Jul 2012 Location: Charleston iTrader: (22)	For whatever it's worth. If you have a JB4 you can set it to map 0, then plug it into your laptop and disable the steering wheel controls. So they can't easily tell it's there unless the open up the box. As far as I know anyways. If it's for out of warranty recall work, I wouldn't remove anything. Meth would be the only thing I would consider taking out. And even that... you're out of warranty! As said before they have to perform the recall work at no cost to you. __________________ 2010 135i 6MT Jet Black N54/3 FE82 Mutt \| BUILD THREAD \| GARAGE SALE
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NihonX Captain 63 Rep 901 Posts Drives: 2011 VO 1M Join Date: Sep 2008 Location: Antioch iTrader: (8)	I had work done on the 1M for a battery cable recall or whatever and I never removed any mods. I DID disable the tune before handing over the keys though. Mind you, I wasn't worried about ruining my warranty at the time. I'm well past the mileage limit on the initial warranty now. Just don't give them a reason to delay the recall because something (tune) is preventing them from accessing the OBD. They can't deny you simply because your car is modified. __________________ 2011 VO 1M
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Tony135 Lieutenant Colonel 178 Rep 1,516 Posts Drives: ‘22 Model 3 Join Date: May 2011 Location: SoCal iTrader: (0)	Mine is going in tomorrow and I'm leaving all mods on. I will set to map 0 though.
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JimUlrich135 Enlisted Member 3 Rep 49 Posts Drives: 2011 135is Join Date: Apr 2014 Location: Arizona iTrader: (0)	Nah, you'll be fine. I've done several with mods. Recall, like stated above, is an auto fix by the manufacture, no if ands or buts. No need to worry.
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e36addict Captain 137 Rep 952 Posts Drives: 2013 X1 35iX Join Date: Jul 2013 Location: Tim @ BMW of Dallas iTrader: (5)	Only thing I would worry about with JB4 is the tech routing the harness wrong.. I've seen it before. Most techs are mod-stupid and don't understand how any of it works, so after work is done i'd just double check the JB harness/connectors and make sure nothing is kinked/chafing. __________________ 13 X1 35iX, 98 Z3 2.8, 01 M Coupe, 96 Z3 1.9 DASC, 95 318ti, 13 smart fortwo
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dsh135 Private 9 Rep 75 Posts Drives: 2011 BMW 135i Join Date: Apr 2013 Location: Toronto-ish iTrader: (0)	So I brought my car in with mods in-place for the VANOS repair this morning, as well as the battery cable recall which I never had done. They told me in the morning that they would probably have it done by the end of the day but the service guy just called to say they're "having some difficulty getting it all back together" (tore a gasket and whatever) so it'll have to stay overnight and new ETA is noon tomorrow. Not exactly confidence-inspiring.
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jafo1701 Second Lieutenant 39 Rep 257 Posts Drives: 2011 135i, 2016 VW GTI Join Date: Oct 2012 Location: Iowa iTrader: (0)	I left my on. Granted all I had was the charge pipe and intercooler. Took em 2 days to get it done. They just called me at 5 tonight and said it was done. I'll pick it up in the morning. Guessing since it took so long they actually replaced the bolts. Which is good.
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dsh135 Private 9 Rep 75 Posts Drives: 2011 BMW 135i Join Date: Apr 2013 Location: Toronto-ish iTrader: (0)	Picked-up the car today and gave her a good "shakedown" on the way home. Happy to say all seems ok at this point, no weird noises or hiccups. I laughed when I read the work order, they wrote, "CEL illuminated at time of service - vehicle has some sort of aftermarket chip installed underhood and mass air flow meter by by airbox connection taped up with blue tape". I guess the jig is up.
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