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      12-10-2010, 08:20 AM   #67
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Let me clarify some things:

First of all, and nobody said differently, NAV is optional both in Germany and UK. Not sure about the US, but I'd be surprised if it was any different.

Also, iDrive controls and screen are OPTIONAL too and come with NAV only, as usual.


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      12-10-2010, 08:54 AM   #68
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Let me clarify some things:

First of all, and nobody said differently, NAV is optional both in Germany and UK. Not sure about the US, but I'd be surprised if it was any different.

Also, iDrive controls and screen are OPTIONAL too and come with NAV only, as usual.


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Looks like you're correct about iDrive being included as part of the NAV package, my apologies.

So therefore the MDM settings are operated primarily via the steering wheel buttons, without needing to rely upon the 8.8 inch screen.
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      12-10-2010, 09:13 AM   #69
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Looks like you're correct about iDrive being included as part of the NAV package, my apologies.

So therefore the MDM settings are operated primarily via the steering wheel buttons, without needing to rely upon the 8.8 inch screen.
Or will getting the nav package make extra mdm tuning available?

If not I'd likely skip on the nav.
Wait. - Do I need the nav for bluetooth integration?
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      12-10-2010, 09:15 AM   #70
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Or will getting the nav package make extra mdm tuning available?

If not I'd likely skip on the nav.
Wait. - Do I need the nav for bluetooth integration?
You didnt in 2008 when I got my car. Dont see why they would do that now.
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      12-10-2010, 07:24 PM   #71
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Or will getting the nav package make extra mdm tuning available?

If not I'd likely skip on the nav.
Wait. - Do I need the nav for bluetooth integration?
No, but the tiny screen that was designed for controlling the audio system isn't ideal for going through contacts.
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      12-11-2010, 10:29 AM   #72
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Guys, I thought you'd all like to know that the official lap time of the 1 Series M Coupe around the Nurburgring is 8:12, which is 10 seconds per lap quicker than the E46 M3 was.
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Thnx, we heard rumor of this a few months ago. Where did u garner this info..?
Directly from BMW when we filmed the car last Thursday.
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      12-11-2010, 10:53 AM   #74
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Guys, I thought you'd all like to know that the official lap time of the 1 Series M Coupe around the Nurburgring is 8:12, which is 10 seconds per lap quicker than the E46 M3 was.
What's the E92 M3's current lap time?
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      12-11-2010, 11:08 AM   #75
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What's the E92 M3's current lap time?
8:05

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/N%C3%BCrburgring_lap_times

BTW I noticed Z4M coupe is also at 8:12
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      12-11-2010, 11:15 AM   #76
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Can't wait until sector times come out so we can see how much fated it is than an E92 M ^in the tighter sections of the ring. ^no doubt the M3 pulled away ^in the quick sweepers and the front straight
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Hey guys, I have updated my earlier post with some of our studio shots of the 1 Series M Coupe plus my interpretation of the spec as I saw it today. http://www.skiddmark.com/2010/12/09/...eries-m-coupe/

Tomorrow I'll publish the feedback gained from a SkiddMark reader that I invited along to the shoot (he's also got a deposit down on the 1 Series M Coupe), plus I'll answer as many of the questions you raised on this thread.

We also shot a video from the studio and captured the exhaust sound, so you'll get a chance to listen and make your own minds up.

For the record I thought it was one of the most special M cars I've had the pleasure of sitting in during the past 10 years. Really special.

Good night all and will hopefull chat with you tomorrow.
Thanks Steve, great article!

Any update on the video?
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      12-11-2010, 11:21 AM   #78
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Thanks Steve, great article!

Any update on the video?
It's still rendering... hopefully it will be ready later this evening (despite the dark looks I'm getting from my family!)
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So therefore the MDM settings are operated primarily via the steering wheel buttons, without needing to rely upon the 8.8 inch screen.

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Or will getting the nav package make extra mdm tuning available?

If not I'd likely skip on the nav.
Wait. - Do I need the nav for bluetooth integration?
The MDM setting is standard in the 1 Series M Coupe without navigation system, unlike the E9X M3 that come as a part of the M Drive option which requires the navigation system option.

To activate the MDM setting you need to press the traction control button that is located in the center of the dashboard between the air conditioning vents. If you keep pressing on the same button for a couple of seconds more, you'll turn the traction control completely off, like in the normal 135/335.

However, the M button in the steering wheel for cars wthiout navigation system is for the throttle response, not the traction control. Think of it as the sport button in the other M cars. I'm not sure yet about cars with navigation system option, we need to wait a bit more for more details to be available.

Regarding the bluetooth interfere, you only need the radio professional option
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      12-11-2010, 02:39 PM   #80
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The MDM setting is standard in the 1 Series M Coupe, unlike the E9X M3 that come as a part of the M Drive option which requires the navigation system option.

To activate the MDM setting you need to press the traction control button that is located in the center of the dashboard between the air conditioning vents. If you keep pressing on the same button for a couple of seconds more, you'll turn the traction control completely off, like in the normal 135/335.

However, the M button in the steering for cars wthiout navigation system is for the throttle response, not the traction control. Think of it as the sport button in the other M cars. I'm not sure yet about cars with navigation system option, we need to wait a bit more for more details to be available.

Regarding the bluetooth interfere, you only need the radio professional option
+1, on everything you've said.


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# 1 on my dealer's list.. Can't wait for my little pocket rocket
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# 1 on my dealer's list.. Can't wait for my little pocket rocket
Perfectly understandable. Congrats!


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Can't wait until sector times come out so we can see how much fated it is than an E92 M ^in the tighter sections of the ring. ^no doubt the M3 pulled away ^in the quick sweepers and the front straight
I think it is awfully optimistic to think a car with a 10% lower power to weight ratio and with nearly identical suspensions (albeit a couple hundred pounds lighter) will be faster on the tight sections of a pretty high speed track. Either way 8:12 is a darn good time. The E92 M3 is almost 1 second per minute faster and that is fairly significant.
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Steve: I'd really like to know the exact tires used for the 8:12 ring run. Any knowledge on this?
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Steve: I'd really like to know the exact tires used for the 8:12 ring run. Any knowledge on this?
Swamp, I'm pretty sure that it was the Michelin PS2's that were fitted to our studio car. We're hoping that BMW eventually fit those new SuperSports which are the PS2s successors.
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It's still rendering... hopefully it will be ready later this evening (despite the dark looks I'm getting from my family!)
I've just uploaded a higher-bitrate version of the video to YouTube, which I'm happier with the colour rendering. Last night's initial render has shot to #10 on the YT auto charts, so thanks for that.

Here's the latest one -



In fact I'd just like to thank everyone for your suggestions and questions, it makes it much easier to address these when we know them upfront.
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Looks great. My only suggestion would be to kill the music during the rev bits. It's its own music, no?
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I think it is awfully optimistic to think a car with a 10% lower power to weight ratio and with nearly identical suspensions (albeit a couple hundred pounds lighter) will be faster on the tight sections of a pretty high speed track. Either way 8:12 is a darn good time. The E92 M3 is almost 1 second per minute faster and that is fairly significant.
Why is it optimistic to think that car with an identical suspension and tires and weighs nearly 400lbs less would be faster ^in the tighter sections where it can turn tighter and use it's lower weight as it's advantage? These are the places where power to weight doesn't play a big role the 1Ms shorter wheelbase also helps is turn tighter

I'm simply saying the M3, with it's better power to weight, aerodynamics, and top end engine were better suited to the high speed sections where the N54 runs out of steam.

I'm confused by your argument
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