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Video: BMW ActiveE Production Begins
BIMMERPOST NEWS Video: BMW ActiveE Production Begins As this new video from BMW shows, the production of the BMW ActiveE has begun. The ActiveE is an electric powered - zero emission vehicle based on the 1-series. The video shows Mirco Schwarze, a production leader at the BMW Leipzig plant explaining that the ActiveE's production has been integrated into the regular 1-series production line and how quickly the ActiveE dream came to fruition in three years. The BMW ActiveE will be available for lease in select markets beginning in Fall 2011 for $499 per month for 24 months with a down payment $2,250. It will be available for lease in the metropolitan markets of Los Angeles, San Diego, San Francisco, Sacramento, New York and Boston as well as the state of Connecticut. The ActiveE has a maximum power output of 170 hp and a maximum torque of 184 lb-ft, the latter is available from a standstill as typical of electric powered vehicles. This makes for an acceleration from 0 to 60 mph in under nine seconds while top speed is electronically limited at around 90 mph. For those interested, here's a recent Q&A regarding the ActiveE: |
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Oh boy I'm so excited...boring....does anyone care to see this car out there on the road?
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07-19-2011, 09:48 AM | #4 |
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07-19-2011, 09:57 AM | #5 |
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I disagree - this car is significant because it shows that all-electric vehicles don't have to be neutered bean pods.
If it were available in my market - Atlanta - I'd most probably buy one provided that I have access to the requisite charging places. There is a public charging station a block from my apt, and one about a mile from my work. |
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07-19-2011, 10:00 AM | #6 |
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I'm just the type that needs the performance aspect, I couldn't sacrifice 130hp for sake of going green. While its a great step in the right direction, its just not mature enough yet for me to think about getting one.
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07-19-2011, 10:19 AM | #7 |
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Full blown electric vehicles arent for everyone, that is very obvious due to distance limitations, charging stat... its an age old debate.
The Foward thinking for this technology is to use it in a manner that will benefit all.. For instance.. where i work we have a need for a "runner" vehicle to go between facilities and do mail runs and bank drops etc etc etc.. Its basicllly a fixed run every day. We also are trying to be "green" corporate wise. I have foward this to my general manager just this morning as it would be a great car to replace our current car that was wiped out after getting hit by a CEMENT TRUCK.. ( and it was a Smart Car >> driver ok.. rear ended all is good) It could make a great marketing piece as we are very well known locally ( i.e. wrapped with necessary wording) Think outside the Box...
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These things are also allowed in the HOV lane with a clean pass and are basically free to run with a great lease price. and its a 1er, the perfect size and loads of fun thrown in on top of it. So again, why wouldnt I want it? |
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07-19-2011, 10:35 AM | #9 |
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This car is leased because BMW could not sell it at a profit.
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07-19-2011, 10:37 AM | #10 |
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Its leased because its a beta test and they wont be making spare parts so in order to meet US laws requiring these parts BMW, under law, must have all models returned to them and destroyed.
Its the same thing that GM did with the EV1, although BMW seems far more committed to electric cars than GM was. |
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True... and to add to that, the lease isnt making money either.. not on the small production run..
Although we tend to believe that everything around us is connected to the almighty dollar, and if it doesnt make an immediate profit, then we should never do it, There are things in life that are done because its the right thing to do. That holds true for Personal and business decisions in life.
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07-19-2011, 10:47 AM | #12 |
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07-19-2011, 10:54 AM | #13 |
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I see this as a two-year rental of an interesting gizmo, not as a competitive, cost-effective lease of a passenger car. It's possible to make the latter argument, but I wouldn't jump through the rationalization hoops.
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On the topic of pure electric vehicles, their main issue is lack of range, which is why they are not suitable for the general public just yet. Supposedly within the next decade or two, we are supposed to see serious improvements in battery capacity using nano technology allowing EV's capable of range similar to an internal combustion vehicle. Assuming this technology breakthrough does happen and isn't too costly to manufacture, it would be what brings electric vehicles to the masses. Some people think that when that day comes, it will mean the death of internal combustion. I don't think that will be the case, as my prediction is that many people will have an EV for their daily driver with a 'classic' internal combustion vehicle as a weekend car.
What really interests me though, is will we see our electric power grid infrastructure built up and improved over this same period of time? In some parts of the country, the power grid becomes very stressed during the summer months when everyone is running their AC. How will the infrastructure handle the hundreds to thousands of EV's being charged everyday when they become more prevalent? It seems that the general public isn't aware how the majority of electricity is generated as well. They may think they are being green by no longer burning a fossil fuel in their cars, but it is very possible that electricity was generated by a coal fired power plant. These plants will have to burn more coal to increase their output in order to satisfy the additional demand on the grid. Who knows, maybe we'll see more wind, solar, and hydro power plants come online during that time to offset the demand. Sorry for the long post, I just find it an interesting topic.
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When NYC had a bunch of MINI E's running around for evaluation with the Street Condition Observation Unit and I saw one in my neighborhood, I whipped a u turn and talked to the driver for a while about the car. So yes, someone does care to see a rare BMW built EV out there on the road.
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Electric cars are fantastic concepts, but I truly don't see them as a useful option.
Sure the vehicle is clean, but the delivery of electricity to the vehicle still isn't (coal or nuclear power providing your electricity) - Green Fail; Some even argue that the creation of those batteries do more harm for the environment - Questionable Green Fail. Does anyone have a cell phone or laptop? Ever have the display say you have a little bit more charge than you think you do? Electronics always have a good way of failing when you least expect them to. I'm not taking a risk going to work with 20% charge left and chance making it home. At least with a petrol engine, I know that I can fill up in 5 minutes on the way. Electricity Fail; If you can afford a BMW, you can afford the gas that goes in it. Considering how much more electric cars cost to produce, you'll need to keep it (once on sale instead of lease) more than 4-5 years for the savings in fuel to overcome the premium price tag of the vehicle. Economical Fail. 170HP 1 series. Performance Fail. Theory Win. Everything else Fail. I think we're just not there yet. We will get there, but I would put money on it being after 2020. |
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And this is why the 123d will never sell in the states.
How much power do you use on a commute? I dont go 0-60 every time. Its stupid to I love how we all get caught up on peak numbers. The fact is that 170 is respectable, also you always have peak torque...ALWAYS! Thats awesome. And economical fail? Its 2 grand down 500 a month. Thats easily affordable by anyone on this forum. And so what? Just because I can afford premium gas doesnt mean that axing it from my daily commute wont save me money, and I like saving money Ohh well, more slots mean more chances of them picking me |
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again its a commuter car. and an 8-8.5 0-60 is more than enough for most situations. Thats the same time as my SUV an I dont often WOT that thing.
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I drive literally 3 miles to work, and never open up my car now, but I need to have that option on hand. I live in an apt where I cannot keep two cars so the 135 will be my DD and weekend car, so if I were to choose I wouldn't choose ActiveE. |
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