I Drive sales?

abqhudson · 05-11-2006, 07:07 PM

For e90s - where customers have a choice - what percentage of 3 series vehicles include I-Drive??? Anybody know??? BMW NA probably won't tell.

If e90buyers had a choice, what percentage of buyers would choose to have run flat tires and no spare? My guess is about the same number as above.

Jim

ALPINE6SPD · 05-11-2006, 07:36 PM

My guess from the sales where I am at is about 80% dont get it. You have to get Nav to get it and some people looking at a 3 dont need nav or they dont feel like its worth $2000. Its easier to sell on 60k "5" then it is on a 40k "3" its as simple as that.

ihavedrivenanm1 · 05-12-2006, 11:31 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by abqhudson

For e90s - where customers have a choice - what percentage of 3 series vehicles include I-Drive??? Anybody know??? BMW NA probably won't tell.

If e90buyers had a choice, what percentage of buyers would choose to have run flat tires and no spare? My guess is about the same number as above.

Jim

I will see if I can find the link but right before the debut of the e90 Helmut Panke said in an interview that they expect less than 10% of all new 3 Series will be sold with iDrive and are gearing production and procurement thusly.

The reasoning was that BMW had to get the new 3 Series right, thus a choice.

Obviously their internal research has told them that most buyers don't really like iDrive [not to say they don't like or want Sat/NAV in general] and that given a choice most will opt out.

sblument · 05-12-2006, 11:36 PM

5 series -- iDrive is standard (navigation is not)

3 series -- I like iDrive but don't like the design of the screen. Think it clutters up the dash. Also, it will become obsolete in the life of the car unless it can be easily upgraded -- which will not happen. Screens like these in cars are somewhat of a fad, much like digital instrumentation was in the 80's. Remember the C4 Corvette's instrument panel?

Caster · 05-13-2006, 12:48 AM

I don't know about the sales and stuff, but I love my iDrive and I love the navigation, everything is so much easier to use, and the knob is in the best place to control everything, you don't have to reach over and find stuff, everything is right there and simple.

clutch09 · 05-13-2006, 12:49 AM

What he said

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Originally Posted by sblument

5 series -- iDrive is standard (navigation is not)

3 series -- I like iDrive but don't like the design of the screen. Think it clutters up the dash. Also, it will become obsolete in the life of the car unless it can be easily upgraded -- which will not happen. Screens like these in cars are somewhat of a fad, much like digital instrumentation was in the 80's. Remember the C4 Corvette's instrument panel?

BMW320i · 05-13-2006, 01:45 AM

hmmmmmmmmmmm, as far as i know in my country (oman), no 3 series has IDrive or run-flat tyres, for me i think its nice if someone has enough money to buy 520i but prefers 330i with Idrive n all the accessories.
unfortunatly, most of the people in my area will call this guy (crazy), driving a 5er with 15" wheels n nothing from the inside is better than driving 3 series with 18" n all the accessories (n even if it has ACS body kit)

thats too bad, but i would take the 330i IDrive if i had enough money...

kprince · 05-13-2006, 07:46 AM

Personally, I love new technology and am willing to accept that it will (and need to)be continually refined. I had my doubts on the run flat tires, but those fears have been allayed. The ride is firm but not stiff and since I live in the northeast, I will always be near a dealer or tire shop.

luckystrike · 05-13-2006, 08:01 AM

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Originally Posted by BMW320i

hmmmmmmmmmmm, as far as i know in my country (oman), no 3 series has IDrive or run-flat tyres, for me i think its nice if someone has enough money to buy 520i but prefers 330i with Idrive n all the accessories.
unfortunatly, most of the people in my area will call this guy (crazy), driving a 5er with 15" wheels n nothing from the inside is better than driving 3 series with 18" n all the accessories (n even if it has ACS body kit)

thats too bad, but i would take the 330i IDrive if i had enough money...

theres no i drive in oman bec theres no navigation in oman (maybe) bec you can only have nav if your country has digital map or streets

JSpira · 05-13-2006, 08:42 AM

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Originally Posted by BMW320i

hmmmmmmmmmmm, as far as i know in my country (oman), no 3 series has IDrive or run-flat tyres, for me i think its nice if someone has enough money to buy 520i but prefers 330i with Idrive n all the accessories.
unfortunatly, most of the people in my area will call this guy (crazy), driving a 5er with 15" wheels n nothing from the inside is better than driving 3 series with 18" n all the accessories (n even if it has ACS body kit)

thats too bad, but i would take the 330i IDrive if i had enough money...

All 3ers worldwide come with run-flats as standard equipment. Worldwide includes your country.

BMW320i · 05-13-2006, 12:59 PM

luckystrike: Oman does have Digital maps n streets, we have 2 cars with navigation systems in our house, but the 3er here doesnt come with navigation system

JSpira: thats new info 4 me, thanx, i thought that only 5er comes with runflats

luckystrike · 05-13-2006, 02:10 PM

ok as i have said maybe because in the philippines i know they dont have navi there just my opinion anyways thanks for informig me

Carnage · 05-13-2006, 02:14 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by abqhudson

For e90s - where customers have a choice - what percentage of 3 series vehicles include I-Drive??? Anybody know??? BMW NA probably won't tell.

If e90buyers had a choice, what percentage of buyers would choose to have run flat tires and no spare? My guess is about the same number as above.

Jim

I have yet to see an E90 on the lot w/ I-Drive on it so I'm willing to bet it's primarly gotten by people who order the car. If given a choice on RFT's, I would pass and get non-RFT's and a spare. I'm willing to bet most others would as well based on the feedback of members on the forum in regards to the ride quality of the RFT's.

poldim · 05-13-2006, 02:24 PM

I like my RTF's. Provide a good safety feature if tire pops at speed, and since they are firmer they keep the wheels from being destroyed on pot holes.

I LOVE my iDrive. Sure it could be faster and not have its stupid boot screen, but these are just small problems in the grand sceme of all that it provides. The time I will save from not having to look up and print directions over the next 4 years will probably be worth $2k in addition to all the other features it provides.

clutch09 · 05-13-2006, 03:33 PM

Hate RFT's and iDrive. Would go with the spare and an external Nav unit - the new tomtom 910 is amazing.

Lost Rider · 05-13-2006, 09:34 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by poldim

I like my RTF's. Provide a good safety feature if tire pops at speed, and since they are firmer they keep the wheels from being destroyed on pot holes.

I LOVE my iDrive. Sure it could be faster and not have its stupid boot screen, but these are just small problems in the grand sceme of all that it provides. The time I will save from not having to look up and print directions over the next 4 years will probably be worth $2k in addition to all the other features it provides.

Perfectly said, I agree completely.

JSpira · 05-13-2006, 10:34 PM

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Originally Posted by kanishkl

Hate RFT's and iDrive..

It´s amazing you can say that and you don´t even have an E90 yet!

Jean330xi · 05-13-2006, 10:38 PM

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Originally Posted by JSpira

It´s amazing you can say that and you don´t even have an E90 yet!

I was just thinking the same exact thing.

firstkill · 05-14-2006, 12:32 AM

Id prefer regular tires with a spare, but the Idrive is pretty neat.

If there was a standard screen with buttons that could be alrite also.

~fk

BMW320i · 05-14-2006, 12:51 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by poldim

I like my RTF's. Provide a good safety feature if tire pops at speed, and since they are firmer they keep the wheels from being destroyed on pot holes.

I LOVE my iDrive. Sure it could be faster and not have its stupid boot screen, but these are just small problems in the grand sceme of all that it provides. The time I will save from not having to look up and print directions over the next 4 years will probably be worth $2k in addition to all the other features it provides.

100% with u....

MoreCowbell · 05-14-2006, 01:47 AM

-I'd always order i-drive if it optional
-i'd avoid the rft;s if I could
-I wish the cpu could updated with BMW updated via USB. It seems archaic that we can't do this.

luckystrike · 05-14-2006, 02:04 AM

i like the i drive its makes the dash more sophisticated, the only thing i dont like rft is the price and maintenance which is quite expensive compare to normal tires

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abqhudson New Member 3 Rep 17 Posts Drives: 09 CLK 550, 2014 c300 Join Date: Jun 2005 Location: albuquerque iTrader: (0)	I Drive sales? For e90s - where customers have a choice - what percentage of 3 series vehicles include I-Drive??? Anybody know??? BMW NA probably won't tell. If e90buyers had a choice, what percentage of buyers would choose to have run flat tires and no spare? My guess is about the same number as above. Jim Last edited by abqhudson; 05-11-2006 at 07:08 PM.. Reason: punctuation
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ALPINE6SPD Lieutenant General 156 Rep 10,411 Posts Drives: 2010 BMW 328i Sport Join Date: Dec 2005 Location: Highland Lakes NJ iTrader: (2)	My guess from the sales where I am at is about 80% dont get it. You have to get Nav to get it and some people looking at a 3 dont need nav or they dont feel like its worth $2000. Its easier to sell on 60k "5" then it is on a 40k "3" its as simple as that. __________________ 2010 AW e90 328i: 6 speed, Black Leather, Dark Wood trim, ZPP, ZCW, ZVP,ZSP, Nav, Xenon BMW Performance CF Rear spolier and Gloss black grills 2008 Candy White MKV GTI 2.0T 6 Speed Manul Gone 2008 AW X3 3.0si: 6 speed Returned 2006 AW e90 330i: 6 speed Dinan Stage 1 Returned
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sblument Lieutenant 13 Rep 427 Posts Drives: 2006 330i Join Date: Feb 2006 Location: Champaign, IL iTrader: (0) Garage List 2006 330i [0.00]	5 series -- iDrive is standard (navigation is not) 3 series -- I like iDrive but don't like the design of the screen. Think it clutters up the dash. Also, it will become obsolete in the life of the car unless it can be easily upgraded -- which will not happen. Screens like these in cars are somewhat of a fad, much like digital instrumentation was in the 80's. Remember the C4 Corvette's instrument panel? __________________ 2006 330i, SP, PP, fold down rear seats, sparkling graphite, black leather, metallic trim.
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Caster Lieutenant 28 Rep 597 Posts Drives: 06 SG 325i Join Date: Apr 2006 Location: LA, Cali iTrader: (0) Garage List 2006 325i [0.00]	I don't know about the sales and stuff, but I love my iDrive and I love the navigation, everything is so much easier to use, and the knob is in the best place to control everything, you don't have to reach over and find stuff, everything is right there and simple. __________________ Graphite E90 325i / Navigation / Premium / Xenon / LUX White Rings / 15% Tint / Blackline Tail Lights
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BMW320i Colonel 174 Rep 2,916 Posts Drives: '06 AW 320i Join Date: May 2006 Location: Muscat, Oman iTrader: (0) Garage List 2006 320i [0.00]	hmmmmmmmmmmm, as far as i know in my country (oman), no 3 series has IDrive or run-flat tyres, for me i think its nice if someone has enough money to buy 520i but prefers 330i with Idrive n all the accessories. unfortunatly, most of the people in my area will call this guy (crazy), driving a 5er with 15" wheels n nothing from the inside is better than driving 3 series with 18" n all the accessories (n even if it has ACS body kit) thats too bad, but i would take the 330i IDrive if i had enough money... __________________ 19" velocity CSL replicas staggured // Continental sport contact 2: rear: 255/35/19, Front: 235/35/19 // Blacklines // rear OEM spoiler // y-connector // 30% v-kool tint all around // Black Roof/Mirrors // H&R Sport springs // H&R TRAK+ 15mm spacers // *BMW never makes ordinary cars . . .*
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kprince New Member 2 Rep 14 Posts Drives: 330i SG/Terra ZHP Join Date: Mar 2005 Location: Boston iTrader: (0)	yea on I-Drive and runflats Personally, I love new technology and am willing to accept that it will (and need to)be continually refined. I had my doubts on the run flat tires, but those fears have been allayed. The ride is firm but not stiff and since I live in the northeast, I will always be near a dealer or tire shop.
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BMW320i Colonel 174 Rep 2,916 Posts Drives: '06 AW 320i Join Date: May 2006 Location: Muscat, Oman iTrader: (0) Garage List 2006 320i [0.00]	luckystrike: Oman does have Digital maps n streets, we have 2 cars with navigation systems in our house, but the 3er here doesnt come with navigation system JSpira: thats new info 4 me, thanx, i thought that only 5er comes with runflats __________________ 19" velocity CSL replicas staggured // Continental sport contact 2: rear: 255/35/19, Front: 235/35/19 // Blacklines // rear OEM spoiler // y-connector // 30% v-kool tint all around // Black Roof/Mirrors // H&R Sport springs // H&R TRAK+ 15mm spacers // *BMW never makes ordinary cars . . .*
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luckystrike First Lieutenant 18 Rep 349 Posts Drives: X3 F25 MSport Join Date: Mar 2006 Location: austria iTrader: (0)	ok as i have said maybe because in the philippines i know they dont have navi there just my opinion anyways thanks for informig me
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poldim Vroom Vrrooooom 300 Rep 3,146 Posts Drives: 330i Join Date: Oct 2005 Location: Bay Area, CA iTrader: (2) Garage List 2006 330i Sedan [0.00] 2003 GSX-R 600 [0.00]	I like my RTF's. Provide a good safety feature if tire pops at speed, and since they are firmer they keep the wheels from being destroyed on pot holes. I LOVE my iDrive. Sure it could be faster and not have its stupid boot screen, but these are just small problems in the grand sceme of all that it provides. The time I will save from not having to look up and print directions over the next 4 years will probably be worth $2k in addition to all the other features it provides. __________________ -Dmitriy 06' BMW 330i & 03' Suzuki GSX-R600 SG \| Beige Dakota \| Poplar \|\| iDrive w/MP3 \| PP \| SP \| CWP \| PDC \| Comfort \| Shades \|\| 40% Tint \| Black Line Tail Lights \| Hardwired V1
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clutch09 Lieutenant 31 Rep 463 Posts Drives: '08 320i Join Date: Feb 2006 Location: Jakarta, Indonesia iTrader: (0)	Hate RFT's and iDrive. Would go with the spare and an external Nav unit - the new tomtom 910 is amazing.
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firstkill Second Lieutenant 12 Rep 247 Posts Drives: e93 Join Date: Dec 2005 Location: Alhambra iTrader: (0)	Id prefer regular tires with a spare, but the Idrive is pretty neat. If there was a standard screen with buttons that could be alrite also. ~fk
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MoreCowbell Lieutenant Colonel 490 Rep 1,700 Posts Drives: 24 i5M60 23 X740 23 Vette Z06 Join Date: Feb 2006 Location: Westchester, NY iTrader: (0)	-I'd always order i-drive if it optional -i'd avoid the rft;s if I could -I wish the cpu could updated with BMW updated via USB. It seems archaic that we can't do this.
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luckystrike First Lieutenant 18 Rep 349 Posts Drives: X3 F25 MSport Join Date: Mar 2006 Location: austria iTrader: (0)	i like the i drive its makes the dash more sophisticated, the only thing i dont like rft is the price and maintenance which is quite expensive compare to normal tires
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