My 200 mile+ review and dyno video

FreeBMW.net · 03-29-2008, 09:26 PM

Please see my 100 Mile Review for my first impressions about my 135 before continuing to read this review.

This review will cover my first 200+ miles in my 2008 BMW 135is and includes a dyno report as well.

I have been able to spend a few more hours behind the wheel of the “One” and so far I am still impressed. Today was a big day for the car as it was it’s first public appearance at one of our local tuner shops dyno day.

And YES it did get dynoed!!

I gave quite a few rides and everyone loved the car. I pushed it harder today than I have yet and still can not believe it’s a stock car. It performs more like a nicely prepped weekend racer than a stock sports coupe. The brakes are truly amazing and I have experience with cars with good brakes (read my first review). It is like the hand of god reaches down and grabs hold of the car and says with a booming voice “you stop now, right here, right now”.

The 135 is truly a driver’s car. Very easy to drive spiritedly and quite confidence inspiring. You WILL feel like a better driver after getting behind the wheel. The abilities of the car still amaze me.

I took a buddy of mine (Toon) for a ride today. Toons background include a degree in mechanical engineering, he has worked for Roush & Chrysler in both NVH & Vehicle dynamics. He drives a 345 all wheel HP Subaru. He was very happy with the performance of the One and had nothing but praise for it.

Ok, so on to what everyone wants to read about “The Dyno”.

First a short blurb about the dyno used. It is a Mustang AWD-IMP in ground roller dyno at SpeedIndustry.biz. It uses an eddy current brake to simulate load and is touted in the tuner industry as the most acuract real word simulator. If you read up on them you will also find that they tend to read 10-20% lower then most other dynos (Dynapack, DynoDynamic,ect). My 135 put down 262.3 wheel HP @ 5500 RPM and 274.6 ft/lbs @ 3250 RPM. The torque curve (or lack there of a curve) amazed everyone. We made 3 pulls and each one was within 3 hp & 1 ft/lbs of each other. We did the pull in 4th gear and started at 50 mph & pulled through 120 mph.

Here is a video of one of the pulls….Please feel free to leave a comment on YouTube.

YouTube.com 135 Dyno video

Keep an eye out for my next reveiw.

Clayton

larryn · 03-29-2008, 09:40 PM

Clayton... mucho thanks! Your car is a puller, and shows that these cars are grossly underrated. That torque curve looked like a table. Btw, loved the "Hi 1Addicts" plug. :smile:

What are you planning on doing that made you want to get a baseline, or were you just curious?

jtsherri · 03-29-2008, 09:47 PM

Clayton,

Thanks for the ride today - I still can't get over this car and I'm pretty damn sure you've convinced me that I NEED one!

Great 100 and 200 mile reviews and thanks for posting the vid (I couldn't remember what your TQ #s were). :thumbup:

Do me a favor and PM me the contact information for your contact at the dealership... :biggrin:

Jason

FreeBMW.net · 03-29-2008, 09:48 PM

Future plans include:

Better tires
Golf tee mod
Dinan reflash
PLX guage (boost)

Future "maybe" upgrades include:

Tien type Euro coilovers with the EDFC
Riss downpipes
SuperSprint exhaust

Jason, you have a PM :-)

0002s · 03-29-2008, 10:11 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by jtsherri

Clayton,

Thanks for the ride today - I still can't get over this car and I'm pretty damn sure you've convinced me that I NEED one!

Great 100 and 200 mile reviews and thanks for posting the vid (I couldn't remember what your TQ #s were). :thumbup:

Do me a favor and PM me the contact information for your contact at the dealership... :biggrin:

Jason

Jason....it's Shawn...I get mine on Monday. Call me or PM me. John is coming into town and we can all get together.

Crowley · 03-29-2008, 10:40 PM

nice .... good numbers for the mustang dyno as well ..

Crowley

edge350 · 03-29-2008, 10:43 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by 0002s

Jason....it's Shawn...I get mine on Monday. Call me or PM me. John is coming into town and we can all get together.

You guys gonna get a room? :biggrin:
Seriously, thanks for the post FreeBMW. Everyone here is dying for more dyno data.

Yearofthe1 · 03-29-2008, 11:22 PM

I think BMW has rewritten the book on torque "curve"

blacknbean · 03-30-2008, 12:00 AM

great numbers...do you have the dyno graph to post?

FreeBMW.net · 03-30-2008, 12:01 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by blacknbean

great numbers...do you have the dyno graph to post?

Yes, I just need to scan it....hopefully I can post it tomorrow.

theanhdy · 03-30-2008, 12:11 AM

Is your car step or manual? Nice dyno

FreeBMW.net · 03-30-2008, 12:28 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by TheAnhDy

Is your car step or manual? Nice dyno

Manual

E82tt6 · 03-30-2008, 02:24 AM

Those are big numbers on a Mustang. I'm not sure if I've seen a stock 335i dyno that high on a Mustang.

Swift135 · 03-30-2008, 04:21 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Yearofthe1

I think BMW has rewritten the book on torque "curve"

From now on it should be referred to as the "torque plateau" :headbang:

imported_Dodgy · 03-30-2008, 04:32 AM

Sorry guys. Dumb Aussie question.

What's a golf tee mod?

Swift135 · 03-30-2008, 04:43 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Dodgy

Sorry guys. Dumb Aussie question.

What's a golf tee mod?

The exhaust has a silencer valve which opens at 3000 RPM or there abouts, you can pull the vacuum line to it and plug it with a golf tee so the exhaust noise is louder from idle.

imported_Dodgy · 03-30-2008, 05:43 AM

Thanks.

Plastic or wooden??

Swift135 · 03-30-2008, 06:41 AM

metal is probably best, all you have to do is seal off the hose, once you pull it off the noise increases you just don't want dirt getting sucked into the hose.

Crowley · 03-30-2008, 01:13 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Yearofthe1

I think BMW has rewritten the book on torque "curve"

no doubt .. it is as flat as my 2004 Cobra was with the eaton supercharger ... they did a good job ..

Crowley

plexiglass · 03-30-2008, 03:04 PM

How can a square be a curve? That is just awesome......maybe I should have gone into debt 5K more. Nah...I am really happy with the 128. I have enough trouble not wanting to pass everything else on the road now.

AND FreeBMW could you get a 128i on that dyno?

MastaMind · 03-30-2008, 03:13 PM

It's nice to see some dino results on the 135. Only one word to describe the graph: WOW.

asv · 03-30-2008, 03:38 PM

Very nice, thanks for getting that done. I like the video shout out to 1addicts

03-29-2008, 09:26 PM	#1
FreeBMW.net Second Lieutenant 27 Rep 283 Posts Drives: 2008 BMW 135i Join Date: Sep 2008 Location: Michigan, USA iTrader: (1)	My 200 mile+ review and dyno video Please see my 100 Mile Review for my first impressions about my 135 before continuing to read this review. This review will cover my first 200+ miles in my 2008 BMW 135is and includes a dyno report as well. I have been able to spend a few more hours behind the wheel of the “One” and so far I am still impressed. Today was a big day for the car as it was it’s first public appearance at one of our local tuner shops dyno day. And YES it did get dynoed!! I gave quite a few rides and everyone loved the car. I pushed it harder today than I have yet and still can not believe it’s a stock car. It performs more like a nicely prepped weekend racer than a stock sports coupe. The brakes are truly amazing and I have experience with cars with good brakes (read my first review). It is like the hand of god reaches down and grabs hold of the car and says with a booming voice “you stop now, right here, right now”. The 135 is truly a driver’s car. Very easy to drive spiritedly and quite confidence inspiring. You WILL feel like a better driver after getting behind the wheel. The abilities of the car still amaze me. I took a buddy of mine (Toon) for a ride today. Toons background include a degree in mechanical engineering, he has worked for Roush & Chrysler in both NVH & Vehicle dynamics. He drives a 345 all wheel HP Subaru. He was very happy with the performance of the One and had nothing but praise for it. Ok, so on to what everyone wants to read about “The Dyno”. First a short blurb about the dyno used. It is a Mustang AWD-IMP in ground roller dyno at SpeedIndustry.biz. It uses an eddy current brake to simulate load and is touted in the tuner industry as the most acuract real word simulator. If you read up on them you will also find that they tend to read 10-20% lower then most other dynos (Dynapack, DynoDynamic,ect). My 135 put down 262.3 wheel HP @ 5500 RPM and 274.6 ft/lbs @ 3250 RPM. The torque curve (or lack there of a curve) amazed everyone. We made 3 pulls and each one was within 3 hp & 1 ft/lbs of each other. We did the pull in 4th gear and started at 50 mph & pulled through 120 mph. Here is a video of one of the pulls….Please feel free to leave a comment on YouTube. YouTube.com 135 Dyno video Keep an eye out for my next reveiw. Clayton
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larryn Lieutenant General 2146 Rep 10,176 Posts Drives: '97 332ti, '21 X5 45e, '16 GT4 Join Date: May 2005 Location: Seattle iTrader: (2)	Clayton... mucho thanks! Your car is a puller, and shows that these cars are grossly underrated. That torque curve looked like a table. Btw, loved the "Hi 1Addicts" plug. :smile: What are you planning on doing that made you want to get a baseline, or were you just curious?
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jtsherri Major 144 Rep 1,262 Posts Drives: TBD Join Date: Aug 2008 Location: Metro Detroit, MI iTrader: (14) Garage List 2008 135i [10.00]	Clayton, Thanks for the ride today - I still can't get over this car and I'm pretty damn sure you've convinced me that I NEED one! Great 100 and 200 mile reviews and thanks for posting the vid (I couldn't remember what your TQ #s were). :thumbup: Do me a favor and PM me the contact information for your contact at the dealership... :biggrin: Jason
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FreeBMW.net Second Lieutenant 27 Rep 283 Posts Drives: 2008 BMW 135i Join Date: Sep 2008 Location: Michigan, USA iTrader: (1)	Future plans include: Better tires Golf tee mod Dinan reflash PLX guage (boost) Future "maybe" upgrades include: Tien type Euro coilovers with the EDFC Riss downpipes SuperSprint exhaust Jason, you have a PM :-)
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Crowley Major 54 Rep 1,015 Posts Drives: Join Date: Oct 2007 iTrader: (0)	nice .... good numbers for the mustang dyno as well .. Crowley __________________ The last words on the powerplant should go to a clearly overwhelmed Hormazd Sorabjee, editor and publisher of Autocar India: “There is something simply magical about BMW’s in-line six. It has a creamy smoothness that makes velvet feel like sandpaper.”
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Yearofthe1 An ex-addict :-( 33 Rep 691 Posts Drives: VFR1200F Join Date: Jan 2008 Location: N. Va. iTrader: (1)	I think BMW has rewritten the book on torque "curve" __________________ 135i Montego Blue, Grey Boston Leather, MT, Sport Package, Premium Package, Navi, Premium Sound, Heated Seats, iPod. [SIGPIC][/SIGPIC] We search for certainty and call what we find destiny. Everything is possible, yet only one thing happens. -Michael and Ellen Kaplan
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theanhdy Major 93 Rep 1,083 Posts Drives: 135i Join Date: Nov 2007 Location: SOCAL SFV iTrader: (7)	Is your car step or manual? Nice dyno
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E82tt6 Colonel 103 Rep 2,626 Posts Drives: '08 Black Saphire Z4 MC Join Date: Oct 2007 Location: New Jersey iTrader: (0)	Those are big numbers on a Mustang. I'm not sure if I've seen a stock 335i dyno that high on a Mustang. __________________ '08 Black Saphire/Black Z4 M Coupe RIP Gretta: Blue Water/Lemon 135i. Died to save me. -ChuckV
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imported_Dodgy First Lieutenant 6 Rep 340 Posts Drives: SG 135i 6M Join Date: Jan 2008 Location: Melbourne iTrader: (0)	Thanks. Plastic or wooden?? __________________ Delivered! 1700hrs Tues May 20 2008: Sparkling Graphite, 6MT, Black Boston Leather, Accented Aluminium, Sun Roof, Pro Nav, Comfort Access.
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Swift135 Lieutenant 23 Rep 453 Posts Drives: 330d, M3 DCT E92 Join Date: Jan 2008 Location: Brisbane iTrader: (0)	metal is probably best, all you have to do is seal off the hose, once you pull it off the noise increases you just don't want dirt getting sucked into the hose. __________________
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plexiglass Private First Class 22 Rep 144 Posts Drives: Join Date: Nov 2007 iTrader: (0)	How can a square be a curve? That is just awesome......maybe I should have gone into debt 5K more. Nah...I am really happy with the 128. I have enough trouble not wanting to pass everything else on the road now. AND FreeBMW could you get a 128i on that dyno? __________________ 128i, Jet Black, sport package enjoyed since 3/18/08
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MastaMind I like beer 32 Rep 1,286 Posts Drives: AW 135 Join Date: Jul 2007 Location: Under Pressure iTrader: (0)	It's nice to see some dino results on the 135. Only one word to describe the graph: WOW.
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asv Captain 44 Rep 657 Posts Drives: 135i Join Date: Mar 2008 Location: PA iTrader: (0)	Very nice, thanks for getting that done. I like the video shout out to 1addicts
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