Procede map2

[dh58]

Why shouldn't we run map 2 on stock or semi-modified (intake)?

[Orlin]

Who told you this? I run map 2 with only a BMS DCI.

[dh58]

Originally Posted by Orlin

Who told you this? I run map 2 with only a BMS DCI.

It was a post from vishnu and its in here: http://www.1addicts.com/forums/showthread.php?t=441889

and here http://www.1addicts.com/forums/showp...78&postcount=2

and i've definitely seen it on the vishnu site

[Orlin]

I cant see any posts actually from Adrian or Shiv, only from a procede customer. I guess it comes down to personal preference, it seems he just does not want to put it on map 2 until he is more familiar with the extra power. In my experience if you can handle map 1 then you can handle map 2. As I said, I have been running map 2 with only a DCI for months and I have had no problems. I also know someone with a stock standard N54 running map 2 and even he had no problems, it really comes down to the individual.

[WOPALX]

With Auto-tuning Map 2 is almost redundant unless your running meth or nitros.

That said I run my Map 1 setting at 14 PSI max boost target and Map 2 setting at 16 PSI max boost target.

I then drive daily on Map 1 and only really switch to Map 2 if I want to spank what looks like a modified M3 or n54 that appears to be modded.

In both cases the maps will only seek to achieve through learning (WOT pulls) the max boost your car can handle, unlike the old days where you loaded maps specific to your mods.

[Orlin]

Thanks for the info, I am still also learning about this awesome product. I have a question though;

if you have been driving around on map 1 for a while and your engine is at a good temp therefor boost would be at a max of 14psi and you pull up beside a modded m3 then you switch to map 2. Will the boost increase immediately to map 2 max boost setting of 16psi? or does the autotuning take time to achieve this? I was under the impression that once you change maps then it takes some time to get to what would be max power. So racing the m3 on a fresh map change you would not be getting the most out of your tune.

[Jeef Beef]

+1 to WOPALX.

With the V4 and autotuning, the maps are pretty much redundant. The procede will automatically adjust to the maximum boost that the car can handle depending on the conditions (fuel grade, temperature etc.). Running either Map 1 or Map 2 will usually result in the software reaching the same level of boost after a few WOT pulls.

The only difference is that Map 1 works up towards the optimal level of power, while Map 2 works downwards. So I guess if you wanted optimal power quickly then you select Map 2 and the Procede will reduce boost until it's suitable for the current conditions.

@Orlin, I don't think there's any point in switching to Map 2 in that situation. If you have been driving around in Map 1, then the Procede would have adapted to your car. Switching to Map 2 will just reset auto-tuning, you might achieve a higher boost initially but autotuning should quickly bring it back down to the same level you were running before on Map 1.

[Orlin]

That was my impression also which is why I leave mine in map 2 with a max boost setting of 16psi however when I first turn my car on as you pointed out there is no real risk because the boost will start at the stock level and increase incrementally as the engine heats up.

[Jeef Beef]

Originally Posted by Orlin

That was my impression also which is why I leave mine in map 2 with a max boost setting of 16psi however when I first turn my car on as you pointed out there is no real risk because the boost will start at the stock level and increase incrementally as the engine heats up.

Yeh, if you have been running Map 2, just stick to it. Auto-tuning would have already worked out the optimal level of boost. Map1 and Map2 should give the same result in the end.

I think they were just left over from a time when auto-tuning was not available, and you had to manually set your boost levels with maps.

[WOPALX]

Originally Posted by Orlin

Thanks for the info, I am still also learning about this awesome product. I have a question though;

if you have been driving around on map 1 for a while and your engine is at a good temp therefor boost would be at a max of 14psi and you pull up beside a modded m3 then you switch to map 2.

Why switch to a 16psi map to race an M3, 14 PSI is more than sufficient to spank them

Save the 16PSI for a real race against a fast car

[BMW86]

Originally Posted by WOPALX

Why switch to a 16psi map to race an M3, 14 PSI is more than sufficient to spank them

Save the 16PSI for a real race against a fast car

[Orlin]

Originally Posted by WOPALX

Why switch to a 16psi map to race an M3, 14 PSI is more than sufficient to spank them

Save the 16PSI for a real race against a fast car

being in Brisbane, what do I do if I pull up beside Jarrad's 335? I would put it in reverse and go the other way!

[MFKN3]

There's not much point running 2 maps unless you have meth. Stock or moderately modified, you can set 16psi max and let autotune do it's thing. According to vishnu, 16psi is the safe limit on 98ron.

If you really want to push your engine, you can have map2 running with high boost and no autotune but wouldn't recommend it.

Or... if you are Woplax and worried about fracturing your hip replacement, you can have an old-man 14psi map

[Orlin]

hahaha sounds like I need to invest in meth

[Jeef Beef]

Originally Posted by Orlin

hahaha sounds like I need to invest in meth

I await the results!

...but trying to take a car running meth into service would be quite a hilarious scene.

[135i2]

Originally Posted by Orlin

hahaha sounds like I need to invest in meth

Meth is GOOOD!

[Orlin]

Originally Posted by 135i2

Meth is GOOOD!

I will talk to Adrian and try and organise a gb closer to xmas. I have so much on my "To Buy" list...I cant get it all! hahaha

[135 BMW]

Why my car feel faster in map 1 compare map 2 ? My car only has a bmw performance exhaust

[Orlin]

Originally Posted by 135 BMW

Why my car feel faster in map 1 compare map 2 ? My car only has a bmw performance exhaust

I cant answer that one mate, map 2 is suppose to be slightly more aggressive then map 1. maybe someone else could help with this one. BMW performance exhaust wont give you much power gains if any. You wont see any power gains until you replace the midpipes and or downpipes.

[chappy]

What custom settings you guys got mine being an auto what i have read i set my throttle boost to 50% and up shift softening to 25% it was very touchy in 1st gear ds manual mode full boost instant so i turned it down a tab they said you don't loose any performance just a bit easier to drive through traffic and my wife drives it as well if i go to the track or fast cruising just bring the lap top out and adjust the settings here is the settings you can play with.

http://www.vishnutuningforum.com/vie...2&t=21&start=0

http://www.e90post.com/forums/showthread.php?t=435393

[WOPALX]

Originally Posted by xsboost

Or... if you are Woplax and worried about fracturing your hip replacement, you can have an old-man 14psi map

The money I save on fuel / speeding fines means I can drink something decent, rather than having a duel purpose liquor cabinet