Video of HPFP Failing

jeremydgreat · 01-20-2010, 10:34 PM

So, you're not sure if your HPFP is really failing, and you think "Hey, maybe it's just the colder weather. Longer cranks are to be expected, right?" Well, that's what I thought:

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I made sure the dealer put in the "new" model (part no. 13-51-7-592-881). I hear these still go out though.

Chime in if you've had the "new" pump fail on you. Maybe these really do have a lower failure rate? I hope so.

I still love my car. If another one goes out on me, I think this will be my last bimmer though. It's just silly BMW isn't really doing something about this. Dealers know about the issue, customers know about the issue, and yet BMW doesn't deliver a better/redesigned pump? Hrm.

My thanks to North County BMW (in So CA) for being truthful, knowledgeable, and doing a timely repair. That brand new 328i loaner car was nice, but nothing like my white rocket. Glad to have it back.

NFexec · 01-20-2010, 10:52 PM

That is a really depressing video. "Fix it" is too kind of an ending caption.

supraking · 01-20-2010, 11:56 PM

You should get in the habit of turning your radio off with the rest of your car, lol..

jeremyc74 · 01-21-2010, 12:12 AM

Nice video

Robert · 01-21-2010, 12:58 AM

I used to record my long cranks as well but dealer didn't want to hear any of it. They took care of me though, gave me a new pump every time the problem exacerbated to the point of service engine soon light is on.

In the end, BMW bought back my car and stood behind their car. To that, I may consider BMW in the future. Jeremy and I put together an online petition and quite surprisingly I just checked and we have 200+ signatures now.

Sign it and spread the word: http://www.petitiononline.com/fixpump/petition.html

I also write a post on my buy back experience in the maintenance section, in case anyone qualifies and wishes to go that route. Lots of work but well worth it.

komitao · 01-21-2010, 02:39 AM

there's a new part ending with 943 i believe.

jeremydgreat · 01-21-2010, 04:46 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by komitao

there's a new part ending with 943 i believe.

What!? This is the first I've heard of it. Where is this information coming from? When did they start issuing these? What's the full part number (so we know what to ask for next time)?

Answers answers!

Sidh135i · 01-21-2010, 06:38 AM

Nice vid

arok · 01-21-2010, 12:36 PM

haha sounds about right, i have similar videos as "proof"

OneThreeFive · 01-21-2010, 12:37 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by jeremydgreat

What!? This is the first I've heard of it. Where is this information coming from? When did they start issuing these? What's the full part number (so we know what to ask for next time)?

Answers answers!

See discussion here - http://www.1addicts.com/forums/showthread.php?t=342409

HPFREAK · 01-22-2010, 04:15 PM

I had 2 go out in the first 2500 miles of having my car.

jeremydgreat · 01-22-2010, 11:41 PM

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Originally Posted by Brad@PSI MOTORS

I had 2 go out in the first 2500 miles of having my car.

That is unreal. jeebus.

1malt · 01-23-2010, 03:01 AM

Very nice vid! I have been lucky so far. Keeping my fingers crossed.

1nd1ana · 01-23-2010, 10:14 PM

AMEN!!!!

PlannBee · 01-24-2010, 12:18 AM

thats pretty sad.
well at least they have the n55 now.
so the hpfp problem sould be solved.

Totti · 01-24-2010, 04:25 AM

Nice vid i actually saw this on YouTube and wondered if it was anyone here.

Sparky66 · 01-24-2010, 06:55 AM

Isn't it funny when presenting your car with this issue how the BMW techs give you a blank stare when confronting them about a possible HPFP failure. It's like they are droids programmed to deny any such repeatable widespread pattern to this epic fail.

Either way, I think the N54 engine will go down in history remembered as the engine with the dud fuel pumps, which is a shame since it's an otherwise brilliant performing engine.

BMW need to step up their game if they want to win over people to their brand and admit to the issue. Staying in the shadows with this has only cemented the fact that they can't be trusted as a reliable brand.

End rant!!!!!!!!

SlickShift · 01-24-2010, 10:44 AM

I just wanna say "come on baby" every time it tries to start up in that vid.

Lucky1 · 01-24-2010, 02:24 PM

What a terrible blemish on an otherwise fantastic car. People deserve better from BMW.

eunosracr · 01-24-2010, 02:34 PM

881 is another faulty pump. I went through two of those myself. The new pump # is 943.

FJUNO78 · 01-28-2010, 10:10 AM

i hope I am wrong, but I bet the new pumps will fail too. I doubt the pumps themselves are defective, but rather the engine design is flawed causing the pumps to fail.

FJUNO78 · 01-28-2010, 10:12 AM

Everyone should vote for it and leave a comment. Also post it on any bimmer board you belong to.

STICKY this and you should vote on the video regardless if you had long cranks or not.

01-20-2010, 10:34 PM	#1
jeremydgreat Captain 76 Rep 676 Posts Drives: 2009 135i Join Date: Apr 2008 Location: San Diego, CA (Carlsbad to be exact) iTrader: (1)	Video of HPFP Failing So, you're not sure if your HPFP is really failing, and you think "Hey, maybe it's just the colder weather. Longer cranks are to be expected, right?" Well, that's what I thought: [u2b]<object width="425" height="344"><param name="movie" value="http://www.youtube.com/v/CGe1tqArnLM&hl=en_US&fs=1&"></param><param name="allowFullScreen" value="true"></param><param name="allowscriptaccess" value="always"></param><embed src="http://www.youtube.com/v/CGe1tqArnLM&hl=en_US&fs=1&" type="application/x-shockwave-flash" allowscriptaccess="always" allowfullscreen="true" width="425" height="344"></embed></object>[/u2b] I made sure the dealer put in the "new" model (part no. 13-51-7-592-881). I hear these still go out though. Chime in if you've had the "new" pump fail on you. Maybe these really do have a lower failure rate? I hope so. I still love my car. If another one goes out on me, I think this will be my last bimmer though. It's just silly BMW isn't really doing something about this. Dealers know about the issue, customers know about the issue, and yet BMW doesn't deliver a better/redesigned pump? Hrm. My thanks to North County BMW (in So CA) for being truthful, knowledgeable, and doing a timely repair. That brand new 328i loaner car was nice, but nothing like my white rocket. Glad to have it back. __________________ 135i // M-Sports Package // RR Oil Catch Can // Black Kidneys // iCarbon Hood // Alum Pedals // KW v2 Coilovers // Vorshlag Camber Plates // Hotchkis Sway Bar // Wheel Studs. Best mod ever? Tires. 255's in front, 275's in back.
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NFexec Private First Class 14 Rep 131 Posts Drives: '11 E91; '12 Z4 35i Join Date: May 2007 Location: Beachwood, OH iTrader: (0)	That is a really depressing video. "Fix it" is too kind of an ending caption.
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01-21-2010, 12:58 AM	#5
Robert Major General 417 Rep 6,968 Posts Drives: 135i -> is350 -> Tesla M3 perf Join Date: Aug 2005 Location: Socal iTrader: (1)	I used to record my long cranks as well but dealer didn't want to hear any of it. They took care of me though, gave me a new pump every time the problem exacerbated to the point of service engine soon light is on. In the end, BMW bought back my car and stood behind their car. To that, I may consider BMW in the future. Jeremy and I put together an online petition and quite surprisingly I just checked and we have 200+ signatures now. Sign it and spread the word: http://www.petitiononline.com/fixpump/petition.html I also write a post on my buy back experience in the maintenance section, in case anyone qualifies and wishes to go that route. Lots of work but well worth it.
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01-21-2010, 02:39 AM	#6
komitao Enlisted Member 1 Rep 34 Posts Drives: 135i Join Date: Nov 2009 Location: canada iTrader: (0)	there's a new part ending with 943 i believe.
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01-21-2010, 06:38 AM	#8
Sidh135i BMW Technician 35 Rep 829 Posts Drives: 135i Join Date: Aug 2009 Location: Northern VA iTrader: (3)	Nice vid
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arok Captain 46 Rep 987 Posts Drives: BMW F30 335i M-Sport Join Date: Jan 2009 Location: San Mateo, CA iTrader: (1)	haha sounds about right, i have similar videos as "proof" __________________ 2013 BMW 335i M-Sport
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HPFREAK Lieutenant Colonel 63 Rep 1,884 Posts Drives: C6 ZO6 Join Date: Sep 2009 Location: Socal iTrader: (8)	I had 2 go out in the first 2500 miles of having my car. __________________ My Youtube Channel
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1malt Private 1 Rep 65 Posts Drives: Blue Water Metalic 135i Join Date: Aug 2009 Location: Marysville Wa. iTrader: (0)	Very nice vid! I have been lucky so far. Keeping my fingers crossed. __________________ Blue water/Black leather/ 6MT/Msport/Premium/Heated seats/Active steering/ Performance suspension
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PlannBee Major 49 Rep 1,341 Posts Drives: A Visible E36 Join Date: Sep 2009 Location: Fresno, CA iTrader: (0)	thats pretty sad. well at least they have the n55 now. so the hpfp problem sould be solved. __________________ -Brandon "I now have a Beautiful Mysterious Woman " *"My Real E36"* - '96 328is 5MT/Boston Green/Beige/Wood Grain/18" Style 189/BONE STOCK
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Sparky66 Major 58 Rep 1,230 Posts Drives: 335 E92 Coupe. Jet Black. Join Date: Feb 2007 Location: Sydney, Australia iTrader: (0)	Isn't it funny when presenting your car with this issue how the BMW techs give you a blank stare when confronting them about a possible HPFP failure. It's like they are droids programmed to deny any such repeatable widespread pattern to this epic fail. Either way, I think the N54 engine will go down in history remembered as the engine with the dud fuel pumps, which is a shame since it's an otherwise brilliant performing engine. BMW need to step up their game if they want to win over people to their brand and admit to the issue. Staying in the shadows with this has only cemented the fact that they can't be trusted as a reliable brand. End rant!!!!!!!!
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SlickShift Lieutenant Colonel 323 Rep 1,804 Posts Drives: '11 BMW E90 M3 ZCP, '21 X5 ZMP Join Date: May 2007 Location: Atlanta iTrader: (7)	I just wanna say "come on baby" every time it tries to start up in that vid. __________________ -Nick 2018 BMW 440i - M Sport, Exec Glacier Silver Metallic/Coral Red Dakota Retired: '00 323i, '06 325Ci, '09 135i, '06 Z4M Roadster, '93 525i, '76 2002, '14 X1, '14 M235i, '16 X4, '16 435i
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01-24-2010, 02:34 PM	#20
eunosracr Colonel 159 Rep 2,231 Posts Drives: a car Join Date: Oct 2007 Location: here iTrader: (4)	881 is another faulty pump. I went through two of those myself. The new pump # is 943.
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FJUNO78 Captain 15 Rep 885 Posts Drives: 25 to 2 Join Date: Nov 2006 Location: staten island, NY iTrader: (0) Garage List 2010 135i [0.00] 2007 e92 328I [0.00]	Everyone should vote for it and leave a comment. Also post it on any bimmer board you belong to. STICKY this and you should vote on the video regardless if you had long cranks or not. __________________ 2010 135i - Alpine White - Coral Red- Glacier Trim - Bluetooth - ///M Sport - Paddle Shifters
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