E85 Servo List

luster · 06-06-2012, 06:14 PM

e85 will cause your fuel filter to clog prematurely on a high mileage vehicle due to its cleaning properties.

after the initial fuel filter change, a regular e85 mix should extend the service life of future fuel filters.

apparently, the slow uptake of servo's dispensing e85 is due to the need to upgrade underground storage tanks to be completely sealed (to prevent moisture build up) and to not be corrosive with ethanol.

it is reported to be 65% more efficient to produce ethanol than regular fuels. so in a 50:50 mix, taking into account the reduced efficiency of the fuel you are effectively reducing your carbon footprint by about 5%, and paying about 10 - 15% more per tank.

*** disclaimer: dont rely on these figures or stated facts. ive only looked into e85 in the last 72 hours and been using it for 24.

luster · 06-06-2012, 06:16 PM

are you running a tune yet?

adrian@vishnu · 06-06-2012, 06:32 PM

I have used thousands of litres of E85 from Roselle United. It is great stuff. I test it whenever I get it and it is normally closer to 88% ethanol (I buy about 150L at a time in jerry cans). I have never used it in a BMW, but it powers my WRX which makes 300kW ATW (all four wheels), and has done 11.0@125MPH. It is tuned specifically for this fuel (I do not mix it with 98).

I have never used the Caltex. I have friends who do and report it to be closer to 70% ethanol, which would be fine if you had tuned for it, but my ECU is tuners for the United 88%.

luster · 06-06-2012, 07:28 PM

adrian, did you have to change out many components of your fuel system to be compatible?

UR25IO · 06-06-2012, 07:30 PM

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Originally Posted by luster

are you running a tune yet?

WHO? me? I have a N55 with stage 1 performance kit.. i dont really classify that
as a tune.. lol

more like $1900 for a bmw bagde lol

adrian@vishnu · 06-06-2012, 07:37 PM

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Originally Posted by luster

adrian, did you have to change out many components of your fuel system to be compatible?

No... my fuel system is very modified... but not for E85. I have a stock tank and just upgraded stock pump feeding an external surge tank that feeds a Bosch Motorsport 044 pump into stock hard fuel lines to engine bay into custom Fuel rails with Sard regulator (running 60psi base pressure) and ID1000 injectors that I run to 100% IDC. I am out of fuel with my current setup. Probably making around 450-500hp at the crank (400hp ATW on a low reading AWD dyno).

So lots of mods.... but I was running all that on 98 RON fuel, and did not select the mods for E85, but have run E85 on that system with no issues.

adrian@vishnu · 06-06-2012, 07:48 PM

Just to add... going to E85 from 98 yielded about 15% more power as is common on turbo cars. Went from about 230kW ATW to about 270kW ATW on E85 with a couple psi more boost (and alot more ignition timing). I then made some turbo changes and a bit more boost to get to 300 (well 298 actually on a glory run, but consistently 290-295).

Kabnine · 06-08-2013, 04:43 PM

For those of us in QLD there is the Facebook group 'Bring United E85 to QLD'. 800 odd members all keeping an eye out for E85.

flinchy · 06-08-2013, 09:41 PM

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Originally Posted by Kabnine

For those of us in QLD there is the Facebook group 'Bring United E85 to QLD'. 800 odd members all keeping an eye out for E85.

Sucks its still not here

Considering they have a massive refinery in QLD at dalby

AND there's a few bran new united servos even in the last year in bne..

Kabnine · 06-08-2013, 11:15 PM

I know right. Even Dalby only got it at the end of May.

Knightelf · 02-17-2014, 07:28 PM

Just wanted to add that United E85 is available in Brisbane now:

Northside
BALD HILLS 73 Strathpine Rd, BALD HILLS QLD 4036

Southside
CRESTMEAD 169-175 Bumstead Road, CRESTMEAD QLD 4132

135 · 02-17-2014, 07:52 PM

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Originally Posted by Knightelf

Just wanted to add that United E85 is available in Brisbane now:

Northside
BALD HILLS 73 Strathpine Rd, BALD HILLS QLD 4036

Southside
CRESTMEAD 169-175 Bumstead Road, CRESTMEAD QLD 4132

Yes, Bald Hills has had it for two months now

It's also on the GC (Arundel) and at Warwick (for Morgan Park) and soon to be at Booval (minor diversion for QR/Willowbank)

United Fuels E85 store list

Bring United E85 To Qld - Facebook group

Knightelf · 02-18-2014, 07:38 PM

Just got my flex fuel wires

What ratio are you guys mixing? How many litres of E85 and 98 oct (sorry for being lazy lol)

ItsHectic · 02-18-2014, 08:16 PM

I liked running 100octane in my 350Z, definitely felt a difference.
But I dunno about running ethanol in my car, I know it can take it but not sure if its best for it, I wouldnt do it.

Kabnine · 02-18-2014, 09:00 PM

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Originally Posted by Knightelf

Just got my flex fuel wires

What ratio are you guys mixing? How many litres of E85 and 98 oct (sorry for being lazy lol)

So far just United P100 (10% ethanol and 90% 98RON).

This is just to test the procede back end flash and the procede 5.5 tuning software and maps. Once I get this working I will install the flex fuel sensor.

If the logs come out ok and it feels right, I will install my Walbro 455 (I think that's it) and up it to E30, Log, E50, Log, E60, Log and then E85.

I imagine at some point in there I will be installing a new clutch.

Nugget · 02-18-2014, 09:24 PM

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Originally Posted by Knightelf

Just got my flex fuel wires

What ratio are you guys mixing? How many litres of E85 and 98 oct (sorry for being lazy lol)

I ran 20L of E85 and the rest P100. Works out to just under E40.
I use this calculator which you can download. The 135i fuel tank is 53L

Every car is different so make sure to log and see that your car is happy with that mix.

JB4-335 · 02-18-2014, 10:24 PM

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Originally Posted by Kabnine

I imagine at some point in there I will be installing a new clutch.

And a new tune.

Kabnine · 02-18-2014, 11:03 PM

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Originally Posted by JB4-335

And a new tune.

Nah will probably just keep the Vishnu back end flash and the new Flex Fuel Beta maps in the Procede.

Not sure how a 'protune' would go since in my opinion the procede does the e85 changes in a linear fashion and its not actually linear. I am assuming the 'fat' built into the base tune that makes it safe for all cars is what they rely on to account for the fact it isn't a linear calculation.

I could get a pro tune for e85, but the whole point is flex fuel.

BMW86 · 02-20-2014, 10:25 AM

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Originally Posted by JB4-335

Quote:

Originally Posted by Kabnine

I imagine at some point in there I will be installing a new clutch.

And a new tune.

135 · 02-08-2015, 11:32 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by 135

Quote:

Originally Posted by Knightelf

Just wanted to add that United E85 is available in Brisbane now:

Northside
BALD HILLS 73 Strathpine Rd, BALD HILLS QLD 4036

Southside
CRESTMEAD 169-175 Bumstead Road, CRESTMEAD QLD 4132

Yes, Bald Hills has had it for two months now

It's also on the GC (Arundel) and at Warwick (for Morgan Park) and soon to be at Booval (minor diversion for QR/Willowbank)

United Fuels E85 store list

Bring United E85 To Qld - Facebook group

I just phoned United and was advised that Virginia is getting refurbished, which is scheduled for completion by May 18, and should be getting E85 Race Fuel

Also, Booval is now listed as supplying E85 - close to Willowbank

06-06-2012, 06:14 PM	#23
luster Major 57 Rep 1,092 Posts Drives: e90, e88 Join Date: Oct 2011 Location: Sydney AU, NJ US, TST HK iTrader: (21)	e85 will cause your fuel filter to clog prematurely on a high mileage vehicle due to its cleaning properties. after the initial fuel filter change, a regular e85 mix should extend the service life of future fuel filters. apparently, the slow uptake of servo's dispensing e85 is due to the need to upgrade underground storage tanks to be completely sealed (to prevent moisture build up) and to not be corrosive with ethanol. it is reported to be 65% more efficient to produce ethanol than regular fuels. so in a 50:50 mix, taking into account the reduced efficiency of the fuel you are effectively reducing your carbon footprint by about 5%, and paying about 10 - 15% more per tank. *** disclaimer: dont rely on these figures or stated facts. ive only looked into e85 in the last 72 hours and been using it for 24.
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luster Major 57 Rep 1,092 Posts Drives: e90, e88 Join Date: Oct 2011 Location: Sydney AU, NJ US, TST HK iTrader: (21)	are you running a tune yet?
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adrian@vishnu 39 Rep 672 Posts Drives: 135i Join Date: May 2009 Location: Sydney, Australia iTrader: (0)	I have used thousands of litres of E85 from Roselle United. It is great stuff. I test it whenever I get it and it is normally closer to 88% ethanol (I buy about 150L at a time in jerry cans). I have never used it in a BMW, but it powers my WRX which makes 300kW ATW (all four wheels), and has done 11.0@125MPH. It is tuned specifically for this fuel (I do not mix it with 98). I have never used the Caltex. I have friends who do and report it to be closer to 70% ethanol, which would be fine if you had tuned for it, but my ECU is tuners for the United 88%.
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luster Major 57 Rep 1,092 Posts Drives: e90, e88 Join Date: Oct 2011 Location: Sydney AU, NJ US, TST HK iTrader: (21)	adrian, did you have to change out many components of your fuel system to be compatible?
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adrian@vishnu 39 Rep 672 Posts Drives: 135i Join Date: May 2009 Location: Sydney, Australia iTrader: (0)	Just to add... going to E85 from 98 yielded about 15% more power as is common on turbo cars. Went from about 230kW ATW to about 270kW ATW on E85 with a couple psi more boost (and alot more ignition timing). I then made some turbo changes and a bit more boost to get to 300 (well 298 actually on a glory run, but consistently 290-295).
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Kabnine Private First Class 11 Rep 150 Posts Drives: 2008 135i 6MT Join Date: Jun 2013 Location: Queensland, Australia iTrader: (0)	For those of us in QLD there is the Facebook group 'Bring United E85 to QLD'. 800 odd members all keeping an eye out for E85.
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Kabnine Private First Class 11 Rep 150 Posts Drives: 2008 135i 6MT Join Date: Jun 2013 Location: Queensland, Australia iTrader: (0)	I know right. Even Dalby only got it at the end of May.
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Knightelf Captain 87 Rep 886 Posts Drives: M235i Join Date: Oct 2009 Location: Brisbane iTrader: (0) Garage List 2011 BMW 135i [0.00]	Just wanted to add that United E85 is available in Brisbane now: Northside BALD HILLS 73 Strathpine Rd, BALD HILLS QLD 4036 Southside CRESTMEAD 169-175 Bumstead Road, CRESTMEAD QLD 4132
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Knightelf Captain 87 Rep 886 Posts Drives: M235i Join Date: Oct 2009 Location: Brisbane iTrader: (0) Garage List 2011 BMW 135i [0.00]	Just got my flex fuel wires What ratio are you guys mixing? How many litres of E85 and 98 oct (sorry for being lazy lol)
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ItsHectic But your honour it's my Affluenza I swear! 58 Rep 533 Posts Drives: at a reasonable speed Join Date: Aug 2011 Location: NSW iTrader: (0)	I liked running 100octane in my 350Z, definitely felt a difference. But I dunno about running ethanol in my car, I know it can take it but not sure if its best for it, I wouldnt do it. __________________ 135i M Sport DCT. BSM/Oyster/GP trim. FBO Cobb, Bilstein EDC coilovers, M3 bushings, PSS. Knowledge of the Tapa Tapa Tapa street race start.
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