What did you do to/for your 1er today?

[Esteban]

Originally Posted by OnerDriver

Sure, but E90 rims don't fit the E82. That's why.

Actually, there's a guy gotcha43, who has 19" 313s on his 130i.

Don't know his set-up but here they are:

[________]

Originally Posted by tock172

So what? The Style 313 wheels in question were made in a variety of different sizes and offsets. I fail to see how it's pointless to compare them. This forum and many others like it regularly contain threads in which people ask if a certain size and offset will fit their vehicle. If more people spent time going over the numbers, individuals would have a better understanding of how wheel sizing works and they might be able to figure out what fits on their cars without asking the same questions over and over.

Not to mention, there are a myriad of different sizes and designs from other manufacturers that can be fitted to cars you'd never expect. Corvette salad shooters on a VW or BMW E30, for example. Hell, Mahle-BBS made similar styles and sizes of wheels for Porsche, BMW and Mercedes in the past.

Not denying the info is interesting, always nice to know which wheels are which dimensions and which ones weigh less.

But it's irrelevant in a 1er discussion if the wheel doesn't fit. That's all.

Kind of like saying Porsche wheels are lighter or heavier. Cool, but without a practical application.

[________]

Originally Posted by Esteban

Actually, there's a guy gotcha43, who has 19" 313s on his 130i.

Don't know his set-up but here they are:

Interesting, his front offset looks exactly like the E82s

I'd swear it'd poke out like crazy

EDIT: if those are really OE wheels with E90 offset fitting like that (which I can't fathom how), I stand correct, they fit lol

Interested to know the specs though and if they're indeed OE... E90 rims should poke out a lot, making it undriveable

[tock172]

Originally Posted by OnerDriver

Not denying the info is interesting, always nice to know which wheels are which dimensions and which ones weigh less.

But it's irrelevant in a 1er discussion if the wheel doesn't fit. That's all.

Kind of like saying Porsche wheels are lighter or heavier. Cool, but without a practical application.

People often confuse the different sizes of Style 313 wheels. At least one person has actually purchased the incorrect size and then posted here asking for help. On the previous page of this thread, the 19" 313 wheels are mentioned. I don't feel comparing their differences is irrelevant in any way. It seems the finite characteristics between the different sizes might explain why the larger ones experiencing cracks in a few instances.

[tock172]

Originally Posted by OnerDriver

Interesting, his front offset looks exactly like the E82s

I'd swear it'd poke out like crazy

EDIT: if those are really OE wheels with E90 offset fitting like that (which I can't fathom how), I stand correct, they fit lol

Interested to know the specs though and if they're indeed OE... E90 rims should poke out a lot, making it undriveable

You can see a clearly different offset in the rear. I think it's actually pretty attractive. Gives the back end some added presence.

[________]

Originally Posted by tock172

People often confuse the different sizes of Style 313 wheels. At least one person has actually purchased the incorrect size and then posted here asking for help. On the previous page of this thread, the 19" 313 wheels are mentioned. I don't feel comparing their differences is irrelevant in any way. It seems the finite characteristics between the different sizes might explain why the larger ones experiencing cracks in a few instances.

Fair enough, more information is always better than less anyway. Thanks for sharing the knowledge by the way, it may not just be "trivia knowledge", as it could help someone from buying the wrong wheel, but the weight difference is a little more on the curiosity side. Cheers

[________]

Originally Posted by tock172

You can see a clearly different offset in the rear. I think it's actually pretty attractive. Gives the back end some added presence.

Doesn't explain the front.
And I don't know if there are spacers or not in the rear.

[Esteban]

Originally Posted by tock172

People often confuse the different sizes of Style 313 wheels. At least one person has actually purchased the incorrect size and then posted here asking for help. On the previous page of this thread, the 19" 313 wheels are mentioned. I don't feel comparing their differences is irrelevant in any way. It seems the finite characteristics between the different sizes might explain why the larger ones experiencing cracks in a few instances.

Good point about the 19" 313s and cracks.

[tock172]

Originally Posted by OnerDriver

Doesn't explain the front.
And I don't know if there are spacers or not in the rear.

Look at the concavity of the double-spokes on the rear wheels. You can see they're the different version intended for the E9X.

[Esteban]

gotcha43 does say they're 19" E90 313s:

https://www.1addicts.com/forums/show...postcount=1560

[Suprgnat]

Originally Posted by Esteban

Actually, there's a guy gotcha43, who has 19" 313s on his 130i.

Don't know his set-up but here they are:

To be completely pedantic, BMW never produced an E82 130i.

[tock172]

Originally Posted by OnerDriver

Fair enough, more information is always better than less anyway. Thanks for sharing the knowledge by the way, it may not just be "trivia knowledge", as it could help someone from buying the wrong wheel, but the weight difference is a little more on the curiosity side. Cheers

I wish I could answer the weight question between the Style 313M wheels (part numbers 36116856666 and 36116856667), and the Style 313 BMW Performance version (36116787645 and 36116787646). BMW wheel websites don't seem to differentiate between the M version and the Performance version of the 18" 313 wheels.

That being said, I did query the part numbers on BMWFans.info. The information isn't completely accurate IMO, but it seems as though the weights are nearly identical, with only a negligible difference between them. Interestingly enough, the 313 M version entered production in January of 2012 (likely for 135is production), while the 313 Performance version entered production earlier in January of 2009, likely as part of the BMW Performance Parts catalog.

http://bmwfans.info/parts-catalog/36116856666
http://bmwfans.info/parts-catalog/36116856667

http://bmwfans.info/parts-catalog/36116787645
http://bmwfans.info/parts-catalog/36116787646

[Esteban]

Originally Posted by Suprgnat

To be completely pedantic, BMW never produced an E82 130i.

Thank you... I stand corrected.

Then his modded 125i.

[________]

Originally Posted by tock172

Look at the concavity of the double-spokes on the rear wheels. You can see they're the different version intended for the E9X.

So? Not sure where you're getting at.

Originally Posted by Esteban

gotcha43 does say they're 19" E90 313s:

https://www.1addicts.com/forums/show...postcount=1560

He does. Curious still, as the stock rims in the E82 are 7.5/18 upfront with 49 offset...
How did he manage to make the rims look exactly the same fit with 8/19 37 offset?

Originally Posted by Suprgnat

To be completely pedantic, BMW never produced an E82 130i.

His is a replica lol... because he must have installed the 3-stage manifold.

Maybe his rims are replicas as well or re-machined...

[tock172]

Originally Posted by OnerDriver

So? Not sure where you're getting at.

The guy has gone on record saying he has the E90 version of the wheels, and the rears look like it, but you're still questioning the look of the front, based on a few photos.

[________]

Originally Posted by tock172

The guy has gone on record saying he has the E90 version of the wheels, and the rears look like it, but you're still questioning the look of the front, based on a few photos.

Well, based on the specs of the wheel, don't you!? I'm more surprised you buy that face value than anything else.

[tock172]

Originally Posted by OnerDriver

Well, based on the specs of the wheel, don't you!? I'm more surprised you buy that face value than anything else.

LOL @ the face value comment--you're getting to know me well!

Normally I'd question it, considering how poorly E9X wheels fit the E82, but the rears really do look like the different offset E9X version to me. Maybe he's running the 1 Series versions in the front only? Not only, but the rears almost look like they could be 19" diameter in my eyes...again, really tough to form any sort of judgement based on the photos.

[Esteban]

Originally Posted by tock172

I wish I could answer the weight question between the Style 313M wheels (part numbers 36116856666 and 36116856667), and the Style 313 BMW Performance version (36116787645 and 36116787646). BMW wheel websites don't seem to differentiate between the M version and the Performance version of the 18" 313 wheels.

That being said, I did query the part numbers on BMWFans.info. The information isn't completely accurate IMO, but it seems as though the weights are nearly identical, with only a negligible difference between them. Interestingly enough, the 313 M version entered production in January of 2012 (likely for 135is production), while the 313 Performance version entered production earlier in January of 2009, likely as part of the BMW Performance Parts catalog.

http://bmwfans.info/parts-catalog/36116856666
http://bmwfans.info/parts-catalog/36116856667

http://bmwfans.info/parts-catalog/36116787645
http://bmwfans.info/parts-catalog/36116787646

Thanks for the part numbers to the 313Ms. ECS shows that they are still available (front and rear), for anyone that is interested. Probably til supplies last.

Crazy prices, though. The BMW Performance 313 front wheel (P/N 36-11-6-787-645) is listed on ECS's website for $231.98, and the 313M front wheel (P/N 36-11-6-856-666) is listed for $426.27. That ///M costs a lot. lol

[tock172]

Originally Posted by Esteban

Thanks for the part numbers to the 313Ms. ECS shows that they are still available (front and rear), for anyone that is interested. Probably til supplies last.

Crazy prices, though. The BMW Performance 313 front wheel (P/N 36-11-6-787-645) is listed on ECS's website for $231.98, and the 313M front wheel (P/N 36-11-6-856-666) is listed for $426.27. That ///M costs a lot. lol

My pleasure. The least I can do is share a bit of the insane research I embark on

And I noticed the price difference on ECS myself, quite a spread between the M and Performance version for the fronts! If I had to chose, it'd be a tough call. I'm guessing I'd go with the M version because I've always liked the little stick-on M logo things. Not that my preferences really matters though, as more and more of the cool parts from BMW Performance are going NLA, as we've discussed elsewhere

[Esteban]

Originally Posted by tock172

My pleasure. The least I can do is share a bit of the insane research I embark on

And I noticed the price difference on ECS myself, quite a spread between the M and Performance versions! If I had to chose, it'd be a tough call. I'm guessing I'd go with the M version because I've always liked the little stick-on M logo things. Not that my preferences really matters though, as more and more of the cool parts from BMW Performance are going NLA

Yes, it's truly a bummer regarding the discontinued BMW Performance parts for the 1 series. I feel like stocking up while supplies last. That can get expensive though and I need room to store the parts.

[tock172]

Originally Posted by Esteban

Yes, it's truly a bummer regarding the discontinued BMW Performance parts for the 1 series. I feel like stocking up while supplies last. That can get expensive though and I need room to store the parts.

I guess I need to hurry up and buy an M4 so I can wait a few years and then buy those M Performance parts before they vanish...but then again, I'm really not crazy about the extra 10" of length the M4 will take up in my garage

[Oakland1]

Pulled into the parking lot at work today, parked next to this M4.

Crazy to step back and think sometimes how BMW has evolved/continues to evolve. I think back to my 1991 318is, 2002 M3, 2006 Z4, then look at my 2008 1, then there's this 2018 beast...what the hell will we have in 2028?

Things used to be so simple. Haha.

In 2028 I know one thing, I'll still have my 2008 1, just hopefully 1-2 others parked next to it.

Never getting rid of this vehicle (like they all say...)