Noob With Another Thread

[web555]

C'arn boys, help me out here.

My 120d is still sitting idle and I'm now driving me wife's Mazda 2. My manhood is being questioned.

Been reading reviews all day and chatting to assorted knuckleheads at tyre shops but still NOTHING!!

Vans, pick up me PM, FFS.

[flinchy]

Originally Posted by RaihaX

Probably not since the PS3 would be extreme performance tyres which wouldn't last as long?
I would assume 15-20k?

they street legal semi's like ku36's?

[alik01]

PS3 is supposed to be some Extreme Wet tyre - mostly for Euro Winter, as far as I understand anyway.

According to Michelin - PSS outperforms it in the wet, dry, is quieter, more comfortable, last longer (40K mile warranty in the USA) and is cheaper to boot! Probably the best tyre everyday use tyre on the market.

Standard equipment on the new M5 and 'like a race tyre' according to the M-engineers. This is not true but it gets closer than most street legal tyres.

I got mine from Tirerack.com. Was cheaper and faster than the local suppliers could deliver - so no brainer really. Try emailing Gill@tirerack.com for a quote with what you want and the delivery address.

Also, check the forums for anyone selling a set of OEM 130i/135i 18" Wheels & Tyres as a package. They look much better on the car and are easier to get tyres for in future.

[web555]

Originally Posted by alik01

PS3 is supposed to be some Extreme Wet tyre - mostly for Euro Winter, as far as I understand anyway.

According to Michelin - PSS outperforms it in the wet, dry, is quieter, more comfortable, last longer (40K mile warranty in the USA) and is cheaper to boot! Probably the best tyre everyday use tyre on the market.

Standard equipment on the new M5 and 'like a race tyre' according to the M-engineers. This is not true but it gets closer than most street legal tyres.

I got mine from Tirerack.com. Was cheaper and faster than the local suppliers could deliver - so no brainer really. Try emailing Gill@tirerack.com for a quote with what you want and the delivery address.

Also, check the forums for anyone selling a set of OEM 130i/135i 18" Wheels & Tyres as a package. They look much better on the car and are easier to get tyres for in future.

Cheers, but PSS aren't available in 205/50R17.

Any thoughts (anyone) about Michelin Energy MXV8?

[alik01]

Not sure about size availability for PSS mate - if it's available go for it.

Never heard of the Max Energy thing.

[bfi2906]

I'm confused!!!

Looking at the Michellin Australia website, they don't mention the PSS in an 18' that matches either the standard width, or the +1 width.

How are folks running PSS on 261 rims? Or are they running different rims? Or is the Michellin website out of date?

[RaihaX]

We run 225/40 and 255/35 so not stock width

[Smiley1175]

Originally Posted by bfi2906

I'm confused!!!

Looking at the Michellin Australia website, they don't mention the PSS in an 18' that matches either the standard width, or the +1 width.

How are folks running PSS on 261 rims? Or are they running different rims? Or is the Michellin website out of date?

Not all the sizes that the PSS comes in are listed on the Michelin Aus website, I think they've only listed sizes they import.

Check out tirerack.com, it's where pretty much most of us get them from and you'll see there are more sizes there.
On my 261's I have 225/40/18 & 255/35/18.

[bfi2906]

Originally Posted by RaihaX

We run 225/40 and 255/35 so not stock width

Ah! Got that. Tks

Originally Posted by Smiley1175

Not all the sizes that the PSS comes in are listed on the Michelin Aus website, I think they've only listed sizes they import.

Check out tirerack.com, it's where pretty much most of us get them from and you'll see there are more sizes there.
On my 261's I have 225/40/18 & 255/35/18.

So am I right in saying that everyone running PSS on their std 18' rims, are running tyres sourced from somewhere other than via Michelin Aust. - Right or wrong?

[Smiley1175]

Originally Posted by bfi2906

Ah! Got that. Tks


So am I right in saying that everyone running PSS on their std 18' rims, are running tyres sourced from somewhere other than via Michelin Aust. - Right or wrong?

Wrong, I am sure people in Europe don't buy them via Michelin Aust!

Seriously I haven't surveyed everyone in Australia, so don't expect a definitive answer to such a question.

Most people who have posted here with PSS on 261's are running 225/40 & 255/35 and tirerack is the popular place to get them from. You can also PM vans as he runs a tyre store and I hear can do member specials if you don't want to import yourself.

[timbo_3101]

They are commonly sourced from Tyrepower North Melbourne (vans) or directly from Tire Rack (USA)
eg MPSS 215/45ZR17 front, 225/45ZR17 rear on my E82 stock 17" rims

Just because most forum 1ers run with premium performance tyres on their over-powered 135i does not mean you have to shell out for what might essentially be daily or city driving

[bfi2906]

Originally Posted by Smiley1175

Wrong, I am sure people in Europe don't buy them via Michelin Aust!

Seriously I haven't surveyed everyone in Australia, so don't expect a definitive answer to such a question.

Most people who have posted here with PSS on 261's are running 225/40 & 255/35 and tirerack is the popular place to get them from. You can also PM vans as he runs a tyre store and I hear can do member specials if you don't want to import yourself.

I'm sure you're right - but then, I don't recall many Eurpoean folks on the Australian sub-forum either.

That notwithstanding, I guess I've been told then ......

[Taymaishu]

Goodyear GSD3s have lasted me about 30k.

I have gone with 225s on the front on my stock seventeens so there is some bulge.

The shoulders on the Goodies wear fast. So make sure you have an alignment done when you get them.

They are the best tyre I've ever driven on. In the wet I doubt there is a better piece of rubber around.

[kaitan]

Originally Posted by Taymaishu

Goodyear GSD3s have lasted me about 30k.

I have gone with 225s on the front on my stock seventeens so there is some bulge.

The shoulders on the Goodies wear fast. So make sure you have an alignment done when you get them.

They are the best tyre I've ever driven on. In the wet I doubt there is a better piece of rubber around.

so you have gone from staggered to 225/45/17 all round?? instead of 205/50/17 fronts and 225/45/17 rear.

Just wondering as i'm thinking of going that way?

[web555]

It has been suggested to me (and from interweb research) that if replacing RFT's with standards then best look for a tyre with 93 load rating!?

Not sure if I fully understand this but something to do with replication of RFT stiffness?

I think I'm gonna go with the Michelin MXV8's, unless someone here (with much better 120d street smarts) can advise otherwise.

[Taymaishu]

Originally Posted by kaitan

so you have gone from staggered to 225/45/17 all round?? instead of 205/50/17 fronts and 225/45/17 rear.

Just wondering as i'm thinking of going that way?

I've kept a very slight stagger.

I'm running 225s on the front with 235s in the rear.

It seems to have completely fixed the stock understeer.

[flinchy]

Originally Posted by ianf

That would not fix understeer.

google says matching track+tyre widths is the biggest thing to killing understeer?

[Taymaishu]

Originally Posted by flinchy

google says matching track tyre widths is the biggest thing to killing understeer?

Playing around with front tyres, making it a little squarer has assisted in reducing my understeer. It's just about impossible to make 0, however the squarer set up has definitely helped!

[dtcoff]

Originally Posted by flinchy

google says matching track+tyre widths is the biggest thing to killing understeer?

Shhhhhhh. Ferrari F1 team will now be able to solve their understeer problem. Why didn't they simply consult the Google oracle first and get Bernie to approve a wider front tyre.

if only it was this simple.

[alik01]

Originally Posted by flinchy

google says matching track+tyre widths is the biggest thing to killing understeer?

Definitely not. Killing under-steer is like trying to kill off Batman...

The squared setup definitely does help reduce under-steer. The car is suspended with 'safe' under-steer built in and that is hard to remove. Hence the extensive suspension work a lot of people undertake.

I think the 130i/125i/etc... NA cars produce better results with the squared setup than the 135i - due to being a touch shorter on torque.

[web555]

Originally Posted by kaitan

WEb: at the end of the day how much would you like to spend. what is the tyre for? comfort or performance? you can't have both. I've got a 120d e87. yours the same?

Thought it would be courteous of me to post the outcome of my tyre dilemma.

I kept returning to kaitan's comment. And at the end of the day I've never considered a 120d to be a sports car. So, went ahead and shod it with Michelin MXV8's. Guess only time will tell if I've made a clanger, but so far I'm enjoying the drive down to Woolies and Dan Murphys without loosening my fillings on every bump.

Thoughout this exercise I found it interesting that the clear majority of tyre shops remained convinced that you replace RFT's with RFT's. I guess these people have never driven on RTF's.

Appreciate everyone's feedback and advice in this thread.

[kaitan]

Originally Posted by web555

Thought it would be courteous of me to post the outcome of my tyre dilemma.

I kept returning to kaitan's comment. And at the end of the day I've never considered a 120d to be a sports car. So, went ahead and shod it with Michelin MXV8's. Guess only time will tell if I've made a clanger, but so far I'm enjoying the drive down to Woolies and Dan Murphys without loosening my fillings on every bump.

Thoughout this exercise I found it interesting that the clear majority of tyre shops remained convinced that you replace RFT's with RFT's. I guess these people have never driven on RTF's.

Appreciate everyone's feedback and advice in this thread.

Hey web555, lol a few people will tell you otherwise whether it's a sport car or not especially those that have a tuned on it.

The main reason I think for some tyres shops ask you to go back to RFT it's becuase first they are more expensive. I might be wrong but there are some tyre shop that give you a honest opinion. They will mainly tell you that RFT is for your safety. I was even refuse by 1 tyre shop that I need to supply a confirmation from the insurance that I can run on normal tyre otherwise they wont sell the normal tyre to me, which i think it's bull**** but hey I might be wrong. They may have some agreement with insurance company.

I will still pick a fairly good tyre leaning toward performance as I have the m package therefore having a comfort tyre doesnt really much of a different for me but thats for me.