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which is strange
from stoptech's page on brake tech, monoblock is only lighter.. and should be cheaper than 2 piece, as it's easier to make and has more flex i personally don't plan on often changes... but if i could (a la 2 piece) i would lol |
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Why not just build your own bbk's? All it takes is some adapters and a bit of math.
Anybody know the piston diameters on the rear 135i brakes?
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Plus huge effort I don't like the thought of running unknown condition used parts for the most part, especially brake calipers, IF i also have to modify them to fit as well.. |
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How much are off-brand bbk's in Australia? Also how much taxes do you typically end up paying when an item enter's australia? Taiwanese brands can be had for $1000-1500 or $400-800 for caliper only upgrades. You'd actually be surprised that pretty much every brand outside of the big names uses Taiwanese parts as well. I'm not sure how much that price becomes inflated though once it arrives at your doorstep over there since I'm not familiar with the duties, typical shipping rates etc... A lot of them offer pretty good pad selection as well, but others like Nashin are restricted. Quote:
Just out of curiosity what's the reasoning behind you guys wanting the bbk's is it because of the 135i caliper issues on the track or is it for the bling? I'll admit my purpose of a BBK was pretty much bling only as I've never reached the performance limits of my brakes on the 335i. For daily driving a bbk provides 0 benefits to braking so it was all bling factor pretty much.
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135i calipers (bmwp brakes really) as they are without any extras would set me back $2k odd front and rear with some upgrades (pistons and rb brakes) it'd not be far off 3k bling is a factor, and performance is definitely a future consideration also my factory 130i brakes fade easily and don't have enough braking force even for my aggressive street moments. |
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Forge BBK foe e9x could be an option: http://www.e90post.com/forums/showthread.php?t=713689
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http://toronto.kijiji.ca/c-cars-vehi...AdIdZ427180616 All of the BBK's outside of the big names seem to have many similarities.
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348mm is pretty big, bigger than past generation M's. Even with the single pot they provide more clamping force than a lot of 6 pot's including the 135i brembo calipers. The only thing is if someone wants a bit of bling the OE 335i brakes lack in that department.
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I am upgrading due to two things mainly... I want better brakes and my current ones are needing replacement. I was able to find a cheap set of barely used 335i brakes, discs and pads almost new and this was cheaper than buying new pads and new rotors for my current setup. Although I am not swaping for the looks I must say the 335i's look much better that the 130i's, though not as nice as the 135i's |
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We will find out shortly, I will install them as soon as I get brake fluid and have free weekend. I will post a thread with details. But, they should be plug and play, although I will code the car as with performance brakes. According to what I have read these are similar if not better to 135i brakes so I take the coding is just as required.
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in the e87 section here there is a white hatch with 335i brakes painted black or orange.
So yes EDIT: http://www.1addicts.com/forums/showthread.php?t=716839
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Clamping power is about the total surface area of the piston(s) and the 335 brakes have a big piston. At the same time, I think rotor diameter and thickness are a bigger factor in brake performance.
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Brake torque is fluid pressure x piston surface area x pad friction coefficient x rotor radius.
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Also, the longer the distance from the fulcrum, the less pressure needed to produce the same torque. |
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Resistance to fade depends mostly on the choice of pads. Better ducting can help some, and better rotor design can help a little. Heavier rotors absorb more heat, and fancy rotor designs can dissipate heat faster, but bigger rotor diameter and width by themselves have no effect on heat. |
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