♦ Sonic MS | AW 135i ~ Forgestar ~ KW ~ ER FE Widebody ~ iCarbon

Cal@Sonic MS · 10-07-2011, 04:18 PM

We at Sonic MS are proud to share some photos of this recently completed project.

Alpine White E82 135i
- Evolution Racewerks Front End Widebody Kit (FRP)
- KW Coilovers
- Forgestar 18x9.5 ET30 Front / 18x9.5 ET58 Rear with HK Ventus RS3 245/40/18 front / 255/35/18 rear
- Vorsteiner CF Vented Hood
- iCarbon Rear Diffuser

In addition, a BMW Performance Steering Wheel in Full Alcantara was fitted inside along with a BMW Performance Short Shift Knob.

And here's some pictures of the end result!

Next up is performance mods. . .

SpaceG135i · 10-07-2011, 04:27 PM

Very nice and impressive. Definitely Jealous

M_BYEEE · 10-07-2011, 05:26 PM

I would love to do that front end but
I would want to widen the rears too!

Cal@Sonic MS · 10-07-2011, 05:41 PM

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Originally Posted by amg135i

I would love to do that front end but
I would want to widen the rears too!

Contrary to popular belief, the stock rear fenders can run up to 275/35/18 tires with some rolling and shaving - as long as you have the correct offset wheels.

miro2296 · 10-07-2011, 08:10 PM

Car looks great! What was the total weight savings achieved?

Cal@Sonic MS · 10-07-2011, 08:48 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by miro2296

Car looks great! What was the total weight savings achieved?

We didn't get a chance to weigh the hood/FE widebody unfortunately but here's the wheel weight of an 18x9.5 ET58 F14

M_BYEEE · 10-07-2011, 09:32 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Cal@Sonic MS

Contrary to popular belief, the stock rear fenders can run up to 275/35/18 tires with some rolling and shaving - as long as you have the correct offset wheels.

I run 265/30/19 and I still have room.....going to be getting 275/30's soon!

ilikebmxbikes · 10-07-2011, 10:33 PM

After work I got a few more photos of the car.

I will admit I never really considered this kit as I thought widening the front without the rear would look strange but after seeing the kit in person on the ER car I was sold. Their photos with the exposed carbon fiber don't really show how well their kit fits with the 135i styling. Its a dope kit and big thanks to Sonic MS for under taking the work on this car.

ilikebmxbikes · 10-07-2011, 10:34 PM

lcrain · 10-07-2011, 11:13 PM

Nice work, but am I the only person who thinks the hood looks like it fits terribly? I am all for weight savings and to each his own.

Boxtyp3 · 10-07-2011, 11:24 PM

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Originally Posted by lcrain

Nice work, but am I the only person who thinks the hood looks like it fits terribly? I am all for weight savings and to each his own.

I think so too. Maybe it's because of having an aftermarket hood and fender is the cause. Just my $0.01.

ilikebmxbikes · 10-08-2011, 12:08 AM

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Originally Posted by lcrain

Nice work, but am I the only person who thinks the hood looks like it fits terribly? I am all for weight savings and to each his own.

here is another photo of the hood - the HDR photo sonic ms shot exaggerates the line a bit-

thez99 · 10-08-2011, 01:13 AM

Ive mentioned this in other threads as well, I just dont see how doing this could enhance performance. Widening the front end and using a straight setup with the fronts having lower offsets (i.e. the wheel sticks out farther), doing this makes the front track stance wider than the rear, regardless of how wide the rears or fronts are. With the stock setup, the rear track is actually only about 2 inches wider than the front, and thats with a 215 front 245 rear tire setup.

With this kind of setup the front track must be atleast 2-3 inches wider than the rear total, and that performs for a RWD setup how?

I dunno, maybe technically it just needs to be explained to me if Im wrong but im pretty sure im not.

LateralG'z · 10-08-2011, 07:29 AM

Looks Great!

808_m · 10-08-2011, 09:23 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by thez99

Ive mentioned this in other threads as well, I just dont see how doing this could enhance performance. Widening the front end and using a straight setup with the fronts having lower offsets (i.e. the wheel sticks out farther), doing this makes the front track stance wider than the rear, regardless of how wide the rears or fronts are. With the stock setup, the rear track is actually only about 2 inches wider than the front, and thats with a 215 front 245 rear tire setup.

With this kind of setup the front track must be atleast 2-3 inches wider than the rear total, and that performs for a RWD setup how?

I dunno, maybe technically it just needs to be explained to me if Im wrong but im pretty sure im not.

Quick answer is that getting closer to a "square" non-staggered tire setup allows for less understeer and better handling on the track. Understeer is "easier" to control for a novice driver, but less than ideal on the track.

thez99 · 10-08-2011, 10:05 PM

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Originally Posted by 808_m

Quick answer is that getting closer to a "square" non-staggered tire setup allows for less understeer and better handling on the track. Understeer is "easier" to control for a novice driver, but less than ideal on the track.

Doesnt really answer my statement about the front track ending up being wider than the rear..

It just simply doesnt make sense for the front tire to tire track width to be wider than the rear on a RWD car. Ideally for sure the rear should atleast be inline if not wider than the front.

Yes I already know the whole understeer thing with the 1er's front end, thats not what concerns me though. Someone who can answer my question please post. I mean, cuz yes the ER kit looks cool and its great that it allows for wider tires n shit up front but obviously that brings me to my questions. If you're not doing the same thing to the rear, the front becomes ATLEAST 2-3 inches wider in track width, even more with an aggressive wheels/tire setup. And to be honest, if you're going with this front end, im pretty damn sure youre doing it so you can run much wider wheels with lower offsets, thus pushing the tires even farther away from each other and widening the track width of the front even more.

Is anyone understanding what im saying here or am I just going to keep getting some random shit about understeer being reduced? I mean honestly its not a big deal to me, no way in hell im spending the $2k+ on revamping the entire front end of this car and being left with all my stock shit and nothing to do with it. Really im just curious as to what ER has to say or perhaps another distributor or something that may have a clue what theyre talking about with this. Do you ever see an M3 or any other high performance RWD sports coupe/car with a wider front end? No.

M3Newbie88 · 10-08-2011, 10:06 PM

Awesome but really really really wish their was a rear widening kit.. fronts are good but rears would be wayyyy better.. nonetheless your car looks hot..

SilverII · 10-08-2011, 10:24 PM

front and back bumper look good. the rest are not good at all. side skirts got some big gaps

bogart · 10-08-2011, 10:27 PM

...WOW!!!... excellent work!

dsc201knoc · 10-09-2011, 08:27 PM

I really like this kit and it looks good but... i couldnt live with the gaps... the front end just doesnt line up

It really makes me sad..

808_m · 10-10-2011, 05:15 AM

Forgot to mention earlier.... Car looks great! I've been really thinking about getting this wide front end!

zamboni · 10-10-2011, 10:45 AM

The car looks sharp except the hood had a gap on both headlights, otherwise it would be a perfect mod.

10-07-2011, 04:18 PM	#1
Cal@Sonic MS 429 Rep 4,650 Posts Drives: bmw Join Date: Jan 2011 Location: earth iTrader: (2)	♦ Sonic MS \| AW 135i \| Forgestar \| KW \| ER FE Widebody \| iCarbon \| Vorsteiner We at Sonic MS are proud to share some photos of this recently completed project. Alpine White E82 135i - Evolution Racewerks Front End Widebody Kit (FRP) - KW Coilovers - Forgestar 18x9.5 ET30 Front / 18x9.5 ET58 Rear with HK Ventus RS3 245/40/18 front / 255/35/18 rear - Vorsteiner CF Vented Hood - iCarbon Rear Diffuser In addition, a BMW Performance Steering Wheel in Full Alcantara was fitted inside along with a BMW Performance Short Shift Knob. And here's some pictures of the end result! Next up is performance mods. . . Last edited by Cal@Sonic MS; 10-10-2011 at 02:09 PM..
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SpaceG135i WTF was that, Was it your car? 39 Rep 433 Posts Drives: Bmw 135i Space Grey Red Interi Join Date: Mar 2009 Location: Woodland Hills,Ca iTrader: (0)	Very nice and impressive. Definitely Jealous
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M_BYEEE Brigadier General 145 Rep 3,269 Posts Drives: BSM X5M Join Date: Oct 2009 Location: Camarillo, CA iTrader: (7)	I would love to do that front end but I would want to widen the rears too! __________________
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lcrain Captain 56 Rep 865 Posts Drives: e36 m3, TT-RS Join Date: Sep 2006 Location: Dallas, TX iTrader: (1)	Nice work, but am I the only person who thinks the hood looks like it fits terribly? I am all for weight savings and to each his own.
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thez99 Colonel 152 Rep 2,757 Posts Drives: 2017 Audi A4 Join Date: Nov 2009 Location: Arden, NC iTrader: (5) Garage List 2013 BMW 135i [0.00]	Ive mentioned this in other threads as well, I just dont see how doing this could enhance performance. Widening the front end and using a straight setup with the fronts having lower offsets (i.e. the wheel sticks out farther), doing this makes the front track stance wider than the rear, regardless of how wide the rears or fronts are. With the stock setup, the rear track is actually only about 2 inches wider than the front, and thats with a 215 front 245 rear tire setup. With this kind of setup the front track must be atleast 2-3 inches wider than the rear total, and that performs for a RWD setup how? I dunno, maybe technically it just needs to be explained to me if Im wrong but im pretty sure im not.
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M3Newbie88 Brigadier General 138 Rep 4,053 Posts Drives: E92 M3 Join Date: Jun 2008 Location: Canada iTrader: (5)	Awesome but really really really wish their was a rear widening kit.. fronts are good but rears would be wayyyy better.. nonetheless your car looks hot..
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SilverII Colonel 40 Rep 2,334 Posts Drives: '11 335IS Join Date: Jun 2010 Location: DFW iTrader: (0) Garage List 2011 BMW 335IS [9.66]	front and back bumper look good. the rest are not good at all. side skirts got some big gaps
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