Anyone dislike the manual transmission?

993 911 · 03-04-2009, 12:17 AM

I'm not a fan of how the clutch engages in this car, getting a good 1-2 shift at speed or in traffic seems harder than it should be. I purchased a modified CDV and my friend who works at the dealer said not to bother with it (because it could potentialy cause damage to the transmission, which I don't believe).

Anyone else notice that the tranny is quite as good as other cars, or is it just me?

Endre · 03-04-2009, 12:27 AM

Put in the modified cdv, and you will probably be satisfied!

mkPOTO · 03-04-2009, 12:34 AM

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Originally Posted by Endre

Put in the modified cdv, and you will probably be satisfied!

i did that mod with my s2000 and you can feel the difference, when you are driving hard and do a hard 1-2 pull you end up doing damage to your clutch, because of the delay.. do the mod and you will be happy

993 911 · 03-04-2009, 02:02 AM

My clutch does feel like it is slipping a little after a whopping 7700 miles, time to get the modified CDV installed I suppose.

Thanks for the input.

Tom K. · 03-04-2009, 09:44 AM

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Originally Posted by 993 911

I'm not a fan of how the clutch engages in this car, getting a good 1-2 shift at speed or in traffic seems harder than it should be. I purchased a modified CDV and my friend who works at the dealer said not to bother with it (because it could potentialy cause damage to the transmission, which I don't believe).

Anyone else notice that the tranny is quite as good as other cars, or is it just me?

As my 1er's 6 speed & clutch are similar to the 5 speed in my E46, do you have these problems with your 335i?

Tom

drgonzo · 03-04-2009, 11:35 AM

will there be any warty. issues with installing the CDV?

BSM 135i · 03-04-2009, 11:56 AM

^^would also like to know what drgonzo asked since I ordered a mod. cdv yesterday.

C_Topher · 03-04-2009, 12:02 PM

Love it. No complaints at all.

1bonna · 03-04-2009, 12:10 PM

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Originally Posted by 993 911

I'm not a fan of how the clutch engages in this car, getting a good 1-2 shift at speed or in traffic seems harder than it should be. I purchased a modified CDV and my friend who works at the dealer said not to bother with it (because it could potentialy cause damage to the transmission, which I don't believe).

Anyone else notice that the tranny is quite as good as other cars, or is it just me?

How much does it cost. The CDV mod I mean. Do you void your warranty if you install it?

BSM 135i · 03-04-2009, 12:14 PM

^^you can get one from Riss Racing for $29 shipped.

what about what the OP said, will the modified CDV really cause damage to the tranny?

BMWeber · 03-04-2009, 12:33 PM

you can also buy one from BMW for $7 and pop out the little valve with a Allen wrench or screwdriver. or pop the valve out of the one on your car for free. or just remove the assembly and attach the two ends of the hydraulic line they fit right together.

akak1997 · 03-04-2009, 01:27 PM

CDV will delay the clutch engaging the flywheel. Removing the CDV (or replacing it with a modified one) will remove the restriction, hence the clutch will engage the flywheel when you hit the engagement point. In theory CDV will protect you from tranny damage when you drop the clutch, by basically slipping the clutch automatically.
If you gonna do hard launches all the time, they're gonna void your warranty base on abuse with or w/o a modified CDV. If you drive like a sane person, removing the CDV will improve your driving experience. my 0.02

stovesax08 · 03-04-2009, 01:51 PM

Removing the CDV should improve the life of your clutch, assuming you know how to drive a stick. That said, I'm sure that if there are any problems with your clutch or shock to drivetrain parts and BMW finds out you have a modified CDV, they will refuse to do work on your car because that's the way they seem to be handling the problems that are appearing with these cars. Some have even had trouble getting the hpfp replaced under waranty for various reasons, when clearly the part is defective from the factory.

drgonzo · 03-04-2009, 03:24 PM

I would still like to know if there is going to be an issue with the warranty for having a modified CDV. While the clutch and gearbox are great in the 135, a little more butta would be nice

deamon32 · 03-04-2009, 04:26 PM

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Originally Posted by drgonzo

I would still like to know if there is going to be an issue with the warranty for having a modified CDV. While the clutch and gearbox are great in the 135, a little more butta would be nice

If you get a modified CDV instead of just removing the CDV completely it should pass a visual inspection. If you bring your vehicle in for any transmission/clutch issues or for a bigger service interval I would put the stock CDV in to be on the safe side.

993 911 · 03-04-2009, 05:19 PM

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Originally Posted by drgonzo

will there be any warty. issues with installing the CDV?

It is for the most part up to the dealer to decide whether or not they want to call attention to the modified CDV. If you have a serious transmission problem and BMWNA sends a rep out you will most certainly get the run-around.

So yes, the $25 modified CDV puts your warranty at risk. I'm still considering what route to take with this one.

993 911 · 03-04-2009, 05:20 PM

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Originally Posted by Tom K.

As my 1er's 6 speed & clutch are similar to the 5 speed in my E46, do you have these problems with your 335i?

Tom

Steptronic in the 335i. No problems or concerns with that at all.

new2the3 · 03-04-2009, 06:16 PM

Is the clutch covered under bmw's free maintenance program?

scorcherjf · 03-04-2009, 06:36 PM

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Originally Posted by new2the3

Is the clutch covered under bmw's free maintenance program?

I asked my dealer this when I first got the car and he said "no, but everything else is" =\

993 911 · 03-05-2009, 01:25 AM

I thought it IS included, but they would probably give you grief for burning it up in under 40k miles.

dkommor · 03-05-2009, 04:18 AM

How much is it to replace the clutch and what is the expected lifespan under "normal" driving conditions?

Lester · 03-05-2009, 06:17 AM

It should last 100,000 miles or more. However, the torque and power of the N54 can cause problems related to the nut behind the steering wheel. This could shorten the life of the clutch. My guess is it is a $1.500 bill from the dealer, including turning the flywheel, balancing, and replacing the clutch, pressure plate and release bearing.

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Endre Lieutenant 17 Rep 420 Posts Drives: E36 M3 3.2 (321hp) Join Date: Mar 2008 Location: Molde iTrader: (0) Garage List 2008 E82 120d [10.00]	Put in the modified cdv, and you will probably be satisfied! __________________ 120d, M-sport, H&R springs,Remus Exhaust, 135I kidneys, 18"BMW performance with Toyo T1R.(summer) 17" style 207 with Michelin Xice(winter), 17" M3 replica with Toyo R888 (Track), Hardwired H/K GPS 810. SOLD! Now driving E36 M3 3.2 (321Hp) Track and Autox
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993 911 Captain 47 Rep 882 Posts Drives: Z3M, F31, G07 Join Date: Jan 2007 Location: Portland iTrader: (0)	My clutch does feel like it is slipping a little after a whopping 7700 miles, time to get the modified CDV installed I suppose. Thanks for the input.
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drgonzo New Member 0 Rep 28 Posts Drives: 2009 135i Join Date: Dec 2008 Location: PA iTrader: (0)	will there be any warty. issues with installing the CDV?
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BSM 135i Colonel 206 Rep 2,229 Posts Drives: 08' BSM E82 Join Date: Dec 2008 Location: Cali iTrader: (23)	^^you can get one from Riss Racing for $29 shipped. what about what the OP said, will the modified CDV really cause damage to the tranny?
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BMWeber Major 36 Rep 1,329 Posts Drives: 08 135i Join Date: Sep 2007 Location: Amesbury, MA iTrader: (5)	you can also buy one from BMW for $7 and pop out the little valve with a Allen wrench or screwdriver. or pop the valve out of the one on your car for free. or just remove the assembly and attach the two ends of the hydraulic line they fit right together.
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akak1997 Major 62 Rep 1,159 Posts Drives: BMW 135 @ 135mph Join Date: Aug 2008 Location: Los Angeles iTrader: (2) Garage List 2008 135i [0.00]	CDV will delay the clutch engaging the flywheel. Removing the CDV (or replacing it with a modified one) will remove the restriction, hence the clutch will engage the flywheel when you hit the engagement point. In theory CDV will protect you from tranny damage when you drop the clutch, by basically slipping the clutch automatically. If you gonna do hard launches all the time, they're gonna void your warranty base on abuse with or w/o a modified CDV. If you drive like a sane person, removing the CDV will improve your driving experience. my 0.02
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stovesax08 Second Lieutenant 7 Rep 269 Posts Drives: 135i, X5 45e Join Date: Feb 2008 iTrader: (0)	Removing the CDV should improve the life of your clutch, assuming you know how to drive a stick. That said, I'm sure that if there are any problems with your clutch or shock to drivetrain parts and BMW finds out you have a modified CDV, they will refuse to do work on your car because that's the way they seem to be handling the problems that are appearing with these cars. Some have even had trouble getting the hpfp replaced under waranty for various reasons, when clearly the part is defective from the factory. __________________ 135i Coupe-Manual, Montego, Lemon, HG Black, sport, premium, CA, HiFi, Ipod/USB, heated seats
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drgonzo New Member 0 Rep 28 Posts Drives: 2009 135i Join Date: Dec 2008 Location: PA iTrader: (0)	I would still like to know if there is going to be an issue with the warranty for having a modified CDV. While the clutch and gearbox are great in the 135, a little more butta would be nice
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993 911 Captain 47 Rep 882 Posts Drives: Z3M, F31, G07 Join Date: Jan 2007 Location: Portland iTrader: (0)	I thought it IS included, but they would probably give you grief for burning it up in under 40k miles.
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dkommor Mindful 4 Rep 85 Posts Drives: 2009 128 Coupe AW Join Date: Feb 2009 Location: Massapequa Park, NY iTrader: (0)	How much is it to replace the clutch and what is the expected lifespan under "normal" driving conditions?
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Lester Brigadier General 295 Rep 3,350 Posts Drives: Join Date: Oct 2007 iTrader: (0)	It should last 100,000 miles or more. However, the torque and power of the N54 can cause problems related to the nut behind the steering wheel. This could shorten the life of the clutch. My guess is it is a $1.500 bill from the dealer, including turning the flywheel, balancing, and replacing the clutch, pressure plate and release bearing.
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