Randy Pobst vs. the Rest of the World....

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Originally Posted by 1SerieStud

I didn't call the Cayman R a super car, but it is certainly more expensive than a 1M. However, there is no denial that the GTR IS a super car, that will shred any street-able Porsche of your choice.

Ok, I've just finished reading what they say about the 1M. And, I particularly like their conclusion:

The entire handling package is truly good in the greater new-car market, but when tossed to the wolves like this, it really can't deal with it. Grip was one of the big letdowns in the BMW, as it felt more likely to get loose under hard cornering and exiting maneuvers. When it did step out though, it was quite easy to recover. Thanks in large part to all that turbo thrust, sending the weight to the rear was quite easy, allowing us to straighten out the Bimmer without much trouble.

Lateral weight transfer was also an issue, as the BMW lacked the sort of feedback that the Porsche had, while at the same time delivering more body roll than the rock-solid GT-R. This didn't do much to inspire confidence.
Cornering balance at the front and rear also lacked the progression of the Cayman, although it was, admittedly on par with the Nissan. On some level, the 1M seemed to overwhelm its underpinnings with the sheer power of its
engine, which wasn't the case in our other two competitors.

Character

If you want to define character in the 1M, you need look no further than that very same, beastly powerplant. The 3.0-liter, biturbocharged six is an absolute riot. There is so little turbo lag, and so much torque that it is truly
a joy to run through the gears. Even in such esteemed company, the 1M's engine stands out as a trully excelent item. We already said that the Bimmer feels as fast as the Cayman (and more brutal in acceleration), but what's surprising is that it still feels brisk after a trip in the GT-R. That highlights just how much power is packed into this package.

The problem is that the potency of the motor is never quite enough to fully draw the car togheter as a whole, at least not in this storied company. The 1M Coupe is, at its base, the best version of the fit-for-public-consumption BMW 1-Series. That pedigree makes it a very fine small coupe, and certainly a massively quick one, but it isn't quite up to the bloodlines of the mid-engined Porsche (simply one of the best-handling non-racecars in existence), and the engineered-for-dominance GT-R.

And yet, at $50,000, we have a hard time dismissing the 1M Coupe outright. If you're merely looking for fun, the $20K or $40K you'll save versus the competition is far from insignificant. Think of it this way: if most enthusiast buyers were to buy the 1M, without sampling the Cayman or the GT-R, we'd bet good money that many of them would end up calling the BMW the best car they'd ever driven.

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Thread revival!

Looks like Randy doesn't mind the M2:

Interesting considering from all reports they're not too dissimilar...

[///BYU]

I was hoping he would mention what was so different about the M2 that led him to give such a positive review compared to the 1M.

I guess everyone but us has forgotten about what he said about the 1M so maybe it didn't make sense to bring it up.

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