SYDNEY 1addicts/e90post meet and cruise day - Sunday, 28th Nov

Gnatty · 11-04-2010, 03:16 AM

Another thing to add to the first post, if you have a UHF radio (walkie talkies), handheld or otherwise, please bring it. Makes it much easier to coordinate. For those of you with an extra one, it would be appreciated if you could bring them as well to loan to those who don't have one.

sbce90 · 11-04-2010, 03:34 AM

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Originally Posted by Jeef Beef

THINGS TO BRING
3. Money for lunch and maybe some light beer

DAMN YOU!!

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Originally Posted by Jeef Beef

I have updated the first post with further info. If no one has any objections on the drive routes mentioned above, Suj, Alex and I will meet up one day and decide on the final route.

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Originally Posted by Taymaishu

Sounds good - have to be a weekend imo.

I'm good for pretty much anything after tomorrow. Weekend is best, but I think Jeef can only meet after 17th or something? So it will have to be in a couple of weeks time.

Blader · 11-04-2010, 03:57 AM

Will be there if I am in town ......

Jeef Beef · 11-05-2010, 10:53 AM

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Originally Posted by Gnatty

Another thing to add to the first post, if you have a UHF radio (walkie talkies), handheld or otherwise, please bring it. Makes it much easier to coordinate. For those of you with an extra one, it would be appreciated if you could bring them as well to loan to those who don't have one.

Yes these are always extremely useful when we get separated (which tends to happen with large groups). Also, great for the guys at the front to warn those at the back of upcoming hazards!

Jeef Beef · 11-10-2010, 01:46 AM

The guys over at e90post are pounding us with the number of people attending...surely there are more of you guys here in Sydney?!

Sina, I'm looking in your direction

sbce90 · 11-10-2010, 05:56 AM

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Originally Posted by Jeef Beef

The guys over at e90post are pounding us with the number of people attending...surely there are more of you guys here in Sydney?!

Sina, I'm looking in your direction

E90s are building up slowly but surely!! Let's see how many come on the day though. Pray for good weather.

woosh · 11-10-2010, 07:10 PM

lol Jeff, there's no BMWs left in the garage anymore mister... do you guys mind if i tag along at the back of the pack in a R36? It'll add to the monochrome effect

banglemangle · 11-11-2010, 05:31 AM

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Originally Posted by woosh

lol Jeff, there's no BMWs left in the garage anymore mister... do you guys mind if i tag along at the back of the pack in a R36? It'll add to the monochrome effect

In that case, can I bring the Playdo. 135 will probably be broken by then!

http://www.1addicts.com/forums/showt...=449002&page=3

BMWnewby3 · 11-13-2010, 05:23 PM

Hey guys... bugger I'll be in Melbourne - Have had my car for 6 months now and have not even been out to the meet and cruise day. Next time hey. Have fun guys! :thumbs up:

Jeef Beef · 11-14-2010, 03:48 AM

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Originally Posted by woosh

lol Jeff, there's no BMWs left in the garage anymore mister... do you guys mind if i tag along at the back of the pack in a R36? It'll add to the monochrome effect

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Originally Posted by banglemangle

In that case, can I bring the Playdo. 135 will probably be broken by then!

http://www.1addicts.com/forums/showt...=449002&page=3

HAHA let's keep this a strictly roundel affair shall we? Unless you don't mind being the camera car Sina

And I'm also sure the manglyone can make it. Don't jinx yourself.

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Originally Posted by BMWnewby3

Hey guys... bugger I'll be in Melbourne - Have had my car for 6 months now and have not even been out to the meet and cruise day. Next time hey. Have fun guys! :thumbs up:

Shame, we could've done with more diesel representation.

typhoon187 · 11-14-2010, 08:22 PM

Regretfully, i have had to pull out of the upcoming drive day. The long arm of the law has caught up with me and slapped me with an $1800+ fine and '6' month licence suspension...

Damn you Adrian, i had only had the N55 tune for three days!!!!!

Just opened her up for 300m to see what she could do on the M5 and they were just waiting for me!!!

So I guess the only thing to do is accept my fate, has anybody contested a speeding fine before???? Any information that might help would be great!!!!

chylld · 11-14-2010, 08:33 PM

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Originally Posted by typhoon187

has anybody contested a speeding fine before???? Any information that might help would be great!!!!

sorry to hear

but i hope you liked the tune at least!

my wife got a speeding ticket for doing 96 in the lane cove tunnel (80 zone, she came off the m2 so thought it was still 100) but got her points back after we applied for leniency. the page you want is here, essentially:

1) must have been driving for 10 years
2) no previous demerit point offences
3) offence must not be serious

not sure about 1 and 2 for you, but i think point #3 will trip you up. it counts as a serious offence if you were more than 30k over the limit, and judging by your 6 month suspension i think i'd be correct in assuming that...

Taymaishu · 11-14-2010, 08:37 PM

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Originally Posted by typhoon187

Regretfully, i have had to pull out of the upcoming drive day. The long arm of the law has caught up with me and slapped me with an $1800+ fine and '6' month licence suspension...

Damn you Adrian, i had only had the N55 tune for three days!!!!!

Just opened her up for 300m to see what she could do on the M5 and they were just waiting for me!!!

So I guess the only thing to do is accept my fate, has anybody contested a speeding fine before???? Any information that might help would be great!!!!

This will assist you: http://www.sdro.nsw.gov.au/lib/docs/misc/br_001.pdf

However, considering a $1800 fine and a 6 month suspension, i'm guessing you were 30km/h+ over, which means you are unable to review.

ie: Section 2.0 of the review doc which i linked..

typhoon187 · 11-15-2010, 05:41 AM

Yes....

I was a very naughty boy,

130km in an 80km zone...

In Adrians defence , he has offered to take me with him to the drive day, but im not sure if i can handle being a passenger .......

I guess i will have more time to ponder my next mods!!!!
Wash the car less frequently!!!!
Maybe one of you gents might want to swing by and take me and my car for a spin ????

woosh · 11-15-2010, 06:52 AM

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Originally Posted by typhoon187

Yes....

I was a very naughty boy,

130km in an 80km zone...

In Adrians defence , he has offered to take me with him to the drive day, but im not sure if i can handle being a passenger .......

I guess i will have more time to ponder my next mods!!!!
Wash the car less frequently!!!!
Maybe one of you gents might want to swing by and take me and my car for a spin ????

Yikes, 130kph... not a bad effort!! Haha, but... oh yeah, suspension. Damn, sorry to hear Elias. These Beemers sure know how to tempt our right foot huh

I'm sure the missus won't mind driving it for another drive day though

if not, send me a pm and I will willingly be your driver for a whole day

(or for a few minutes around the block lol)

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Originally Posted by Jeef Beef

Unless you don't mind being the camera car Sina

Hmm, that's a pretty good offer... I'll get back to you on that one Jeff

Jeef Beef · 11-15-2010, 07:05 AM

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Originally Posted by typhoon187

Regretfully, i have had to pull out of the upcoming drive day. The long arm of the law has caught up with me and slapped me with an $1800+ fine and '6' month licence suspension...

Damn you Adrian, i had only had the N55 tune for three days!!!!!

Just opened her up for 300m to see what she could do on the M5 and they were just waiting for me!!!

So I guess the only thing to do is accept my fate, has anybody contested a speeding fine before???? Any information that might help would be great!!!!

You'd be looking to go to court and requesting a Section 10 dismissal under the Crimes (Sentencing and Procedure) Act 1999. This section outlines the following considerations for the magistrate to take into account when determining whether you should be fully dismissed for all relevant offences:

(a) the person’s character, antecedents, age, health and mental condition,
(b) the trivial nature of the offence,
(c) the extenuating circumstances in which the offence was committed, and
(d) any other matter that the court thinks proper to consider.

In terms of (a)

You should obtain some character references from an employer, JP or other trusted profession. These should paint a positive light of you to the magistrate
Age - being a middle aged main is advantageous in the court room. You are not a young dissident. If you have kids and a spouse, these should also be brought up - it tends to suggest a stable, safe lifestyle
Health - irrelevant in speeding offences
Mental condition - unless you're insane and didn't know you were speeding, again irrelevant

In terms of (b)
Others have suggested that going 130km in an 80 zone does not fall into the definition of 'trivial', however, according to common law precedent in Walder v Hensler, the court is willing to accept cases where the offence is technical and there is no real risk of damage or injury resulting from your 'dangerous' driving. I believe your short squirt on the M5 falls into this category.

Also, R v Nguyen places a STRONG emphasis for letting first time offenders off as a way of maintaining the reputation of a good character. You DEFINITELY should argue this point very vehemently if this is your first serious traffic offence. Being middle aged with a family or a spouse suggests that you are of a sound character and deserving to maintain a good reputation. Years of excellent civil service and clean criminal records DO count for something here. Again, your character references will be paramount to supporting the fact that you have an exemplary reputation that should not be tainted by a speeding offence such as this.

In terms of (c)
Again, the conditions in which you had a burst of speed can be considered by the judge. Say how you weren't watching your speed, lack of traffic made you lose sense of how fast you were going etc. Even mentioning that you had loud music at the time will help the judge understand your lapse in judgement.

In terms of (d)
I'm assuming you've had no previous serious traffic infringements or a criminal record - this is a very important point that must be brought to the judge's attention. You want to demonstrate that what you did was severely out of character and a momentary lapse of your otherwise law obliging lifestyle.

Hopefully my limited legal knowledge is helpful in some way, but my advice is to hire a traffic lawyer (they're about $500 for local court appearances) and fight this bitch in court. You can EASILY reduce your 6 month suspension. I am willing to bet that you will get maximum ONE month at most.

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Originally Posted by typhoon187

Yes....

I was a very naughty boy,

130km in an 80km zone...

In Adrians defence , he has offered to take me with him to the drive day, but im not sure if i can handle being a passenger .......

I guess i will have more time to ponder my next mods!!!!
Wash the car less frequently!!!!
Maybe one of you gents might want to swing by and take me and my car for a spin ????

Get someone to drive you in your car on the day

woosh · 11-15-2010, 07:19 AM

ps: are you sure they were exactly 300m from the entry (assuming) before they pinged you? If you think it was less, refer to this thread: http://forum.e46fanatics.com/showthread.php?t=723106 (he's a lawyer and ended up getting a reasonable exemption)
Let us know how you go.

sbce90 · 11-17-2010, 07:07 AM

Come on 1ers, get your act together!! We're up to potentially 19 E9Xs. Even allowing for no-shows, it should be an awesome meet.

2bob · 11-21-2010, 05:03 AM

Guys cant make it for the run .Have been invited to Blues Beach for a long weekend

MickyD · 11-21-2010, 05:54 AM

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Originally Posted by Jeef Beef

Hopefully my limited legal knowledge is helpful in some way, but my advice is to hire a traffic lawyer (they're about $500 for local court appearances) and fight this bitch in court. You can EASILY reduce your 6 month suspension. I am willing to bet that you will get maximum ONE month at most.

I don't know about NSW, but in Victoria, the judge has NO ability to vary the length of the suspension, they can only change the size of the fine.

Jeef Beef · 11-22-2010, 06:18 AM

Guys, the DRIVE ROUTE, MEET LOCATION and TIMES have been sent to you all via Private Message. Please check for details.

Also, please refrain from revealing the specifics on the forum where the general public can see.

dh58 · 11-23-2010, 12:27 PM

Sorry guys but I can't go any more

So i'm out

11-04-2010, 03:16 AM	#23
Gnatty Private 7 Rep 62 Posts Drives: '98 P38 Range Rover Join Date: Dec 2009 Location: Sydney, Australia iTrader: (0)	Another thing to add to the first post, if you have a UHF radio (walkie talkies), handheld or otherwise, please bring it. Makes it much easier to coordinate. For those of you with an extra one, it would be appreciated if you could bring them as well to loan to those who don't have one.
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11-10-2010, 01:46 AM	#27
Jeef Beef Lord Captain Commander 110 Rep 3,093 Posts Drives: a sleeper Join Date: Oct 2009 Location: Sydney, Australia iTrader: (0)	The guys over at e90post are pounding us with the number of people attending...surely there are more of you guys here in Sydney?! Sina, I'm looking in your direction __________________ E82 135i M-sport: SGM/6MT/Black
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woosh Colonel 212 Rep 2,938 Posts Drives: rs Join Date: Dec 2007 Location: bne iTrader: (0)	lol Jeff, there's no BMWs left in the garage anymore mister... do you guys mind if i tag along at the back of the pack in a R36? It'll add to the monochrome effect
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11-13-2010, 05:23 PM	#31
BMWnewby3 New Member 3 Rep 18 Posts Drives: BMW 123D Join Date: May 2010 Location: Sydney, Australia iTrader: (0)	Hey guys... bugger I'll be in Melbourne - Have had my car for 6 months now and have not even been out to the meet and cruise day. Next time hey. Have fun guys! :thumbs up:
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11-14-2010, 08:22 PM	#33
typhoon187 New Member 12 Rep 16 Posts Drives: 2011 n55 135i,2005 FPV Typhoon Join Date: Dec 2009 Location: Sydney iTrader: (0)	I'm OUT!!! Regretfully, i have had to pull out of the upcoming drive day. The long arm of the law has caught up with me and slapped me with an $1800+ fine and '6' month licence suspension... Damn you Adrian, i had only had the N55 tune for three days!!!!! Just opened her up for 300m to see what she could do on the M5 and they were just waiting for me!!! So I guess the only thing to do is accept my fate, has anybody contested a speeding fine before???? Any information that might help would be great!!!!
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11-15-2010, 05:41 AM	#36
typhoon187 New Member 12 Rep 16 Posts Drives: 2011 n55 135i,2005 FPV Typhoon Join Date: Dec 2009 Location: Sydney iTrader: (0)	thanks Gents Yes.... I was a very naughty boy, 130km in an 80km zone... In Adrians defence , he has offered to take me with him to the drive day, but im not sure if i can handle being a passenger ....... I guess i will have more time to ponder my next mods!!!! Wash the car less frequently!!!! Maybe one of you gents might want to swing by and take me and my car for a spin ????
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11-15-2010, 07:19 AM	#39
woosh Colonel 212 Rep 2,938 Posts Drives: rs Join Date: Dec 2007 Location: bne iTrader: (0)	ps: are you sure they were exactly 300m from the entry (assuming) before they pinged you? If you think it was less, refer to this thread: http://forum.e46fanatics.com/showthread.php?t=723106 (he's a lawyer and ended up getting a reasonable exemption) Let us know how you go.
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11-17-2010, 07:07 AM	#40
sbce90 Me Boosta 249 Rep 5,721 Posts Drives: 320i / MB C63 / VW up! Join Date: Jan 2010 Location: Sydney, Australia iTrader: (3)	Come on 1ers, get your act together!! We're up to potentially 19 E9Xs. Even allowing for no-shows, it should be an awesome meet.
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11-21-2010, 05:03 AM	#41
2bob Second Lieutenant 6 Rep 264 Posts Drives: AW white135 Join Date: Jun 2008 Location: bilgola plateau NSW australia iTrader: (0)	Guys cant make it for the run .Have been invited to Blues Beach for a long weekend
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11-22-2010, 06:18 AM	#43
Jeef Beef Lord Captain Commander 110 Rep 3,093 Posts Drives: a sleeper Join Date: Oct 2009 Location: Sydney, Australia iTrader: (0)	Guys, the DRIVE ROUTE, MEET LOCATION and TIMES have been sent to you all via Private Message. Please check for details. Also, please refrain from revealing the specifics on the forum where the general public can see. __________________ E82 135i M-sport: SGM/6MT/Black
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11-23-2010, 12:27 PM	#44
dh58 Major 108 Rep 1,075 Posts Drives: 135i Join Date: Aug 2010 Location: Bunker in Sydney iTrader: (1)	Sorry guys but I can't go any more So i'm out
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