Stock 1M on dyno produced 331rwhp

JB4-335 · 05-25-2011, 09:49 PM

Check out this thread.
These little 1M are amazing. I WANT ONE!!

http://n54tech.com/forums/showthread.php?t=12626

05C4R · 05-25-2011, 10:41 PM

is that as good/better then your tuned 135i?

JB4-335 · 05-25-2011, 10:47 PM

The 1M is definitely much better than my tuned 135 but mine does produced more rwhp.

BBK · 05-25-2011, 11:06 PM

Take that with a grain of salt I think. Some of those US dynos read very high don't they?

JB4-335 · 05-25-2011, 11:09 PM

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Originally Posted by BBK

Take that with a grain of salt I think. Some of those US dynos read very high don't they?

Definitely the case. They do read alot higher in the US. I think if we deduct about 5-7% off that dyno result we would have the same as our Aussie dyno results.

MrBlonde · 05-25-2011, 11:25 PM

US dynos (DynoJEt) read 15-20% higher than Dyno Dynamics, proven over and over again.

JB4-335 · 05-25-2011, 11:31 PM

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Originally Posted by MrBlonde

US dynos (DynoJEt) read 15-20% higher than Dyno Dynamics, proven over and over again.

I was way off then.
So the 1M will most probably put down about 220-225rwkw on our dyno's.

Jeef Beef · 05-25-2011, 11:51 PM

When you tune the 1M it should give the exact same power output as the 135i - the 1M is just a much much better overall package in terms of dynamics, handling and looks (IMO).

Alpine* · 05-26-2011, 01:06 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Jeef Beef

When you tune the 1M it should give the exact same power output as the 135i - the 1M is just a much much better overall package in terms of dynamics, handling and looks (IMO).

Having read the post this morning, I read it as saying there was alot more HP and TQ than the 535i they tested... so it is more the relativity that they were on about than the big numbers they acheived with the 1M, am I right or ..........

JB4-335 · 05-26-2011, 01:10 AM

At the end of the day it's a little beast of a car and it'll will be awesome to throw around a track.
Alpine do you think your Mrs will let me borrow the 1M for a track day?

Alpine* · 05-26-2011, 01:22 AM

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Originally Posted by JB4135

At the end of the day it's a little beast of a car that will be awesome to throw around a track.
Alpine do you think your Mrs will let me borrow the 1M for a track day?

Agreed and ROFL, she will probably want to do the track day in the 1 and me... "well bring your own car" will be the comment. Remember this is the lady that had a blast in the R26.R at the ring last month, meaning she had 3 laps and so did I.

Just done some maths....

the
1M 246Kw ATW
535i 202Kw ATW
Delta being + 40Kw to the 1M

or ~+20% more rear wheel Kws

so if you have a 135i stock figure that % may be used to calculate a rough 1M ATW rating... anyway I am looking forward to stealing the keys, I just need to slink into the garage on a weekend and push it out of the garage (the driveway is down hill) and take it for some spins.

lavaletta · 05-26-2011, 01:32 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by MrBlonde

US dynos (DynoJEt) read 15-20% higher than Dyno Dynamics, proven over and over again.

Sure as hell not looking for an argument here - I wouldn't know either way. But why would the same engine produce more hp in the US then here? Presumably it doesn't which begs the obvious next question: what are they testing that we aren't?

JB4-335 · 05-26-2011, 01:41 AM

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Originally Posted by AlpineM3E92

Agreed and ROFL, she will probably want to do the track day in the 1 and me... "well bring your own car" will be the comment. Remember this is the lady that had a blast in the R26.R at the ring last month, meaning she had 3 laps and so did I.

Just done some maths....

the
1M 246Kw ATW
535i 202Kw ATW
Delta being + 40Kw to the 1M

or ~+20% more rear wheel Kws

so if you have a 135i stock figure that % may be used to calculate a rough 1M ATW rating... anyway I am looking forward to stealing the keys, I just need to slink into the garage on a weekend and push it out of the garage (the driveway is down hill) and take it for some spins.

I think stock 135's put down about 190-195rwkw.
I'll give you a hand with that Alpine. You slowly push it out of the garage and I'll sit in the drivers seat and man the steering.

Alpine* · 05-26-2011, 01:50 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by JB4135

I think stock 135's put down about 190-195rwkw.
I'll give you a hand with that Alpine. You slowly push it out of the garage and I'll sit in the drivers seat and man the steering.

soooo the 202 ATWKw figure they got with a 535i in that post is pretty close to the mark then!! THEREFORE they may be pretty close with their 1M #s??

I am an amateur with this stuff so WTF do I know hahaha

Thanks for the offer to help JB, I'll let you know.

Jeef Beef · 05-26-2011, 09:29 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by AlpineM3E92

Having read the post this morning, I read it as saying there was alot more HP and TQ than the 535i they tested... so it is more the relativity that they were on about than the big numbers they acheived with the 1M, am I right or ..........

Stock for stock, 1M is obviously going to be higher power than an N54 powered 135i. That's only because 1M is running different software.

Since they have exactly the engine, if you eradicate the variable (i.e. chuck a PROcede on both of them) the power figures will turn out to be exactly the same. You can't 'tune' a 1M to higher power levels because it started higher stock. It was simply running a higher state of tune with the same hardware from stock.

That's was really just my point, not taking anything away from the beastness of the 1M

JHOOPS2 · 05-26-2011, 09:38 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Jeef Beef

Stock for stock, 1M is obviously going to be higher power than an N54 powered 135i. That's only because 1M is running different software.

Since they have exactly the engine, if you eradicate the variable (i.e. chuck a PROcede on both of them) the power figures will turn out to be exactly the same. You can't 'tune' a 1M to higher power levels because it started higher stock. It was simply running a higher state of tune with the same hardware from stock.

That's was really just my point, not taking anything away from the beastness of the 1M

^This

DriveHard · 05-26-2011, 10:01 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by JB4135

I think stock 135's put down about 190-195rwkw.
I'll give you a hand with that Alpine. You slowly push it out of the garage and I'll sit in the drivers seat and man the steering.

Sorry dont mean to thread jack..

But this reminds me of Ferris Buellers Day off..

That poor Ferrari in the garage on a service jack in reverse to "erase" the miles, and then.......... off into the woods LOL

Orlin · 05-26-2011, 04:20 PM

If the 1M is an N54 @ 13psi then I guess that puts me in front...until the first corner!

JB4-335 · 05-26-2011, 07:43 PM

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If the 1M is an N54 @ 13psi then I guess that puts me in front...until the first corner!

A nice set of wheels and tyres and KWs and it would be a good race. Dont forget you have a massive IC Matt so your car will be consistantly strong.

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