Why arent UK diesel models in USA?

[Porta]

Sorry nothing like that available in the UK!

You could have a M Sport 1 Series coupe with a 2L Bi-Turbo Diesel and 6MT though

[Lester]

Don't even thik about bringing over to the USA from Europe. It will be impounded by US Customs.

[ND40oz]

Originally Posted by m_thompson

A little clarification... I would like an M-Sport 1-series coupe with a 2.0L Twin-Turbo Diesel, 6MT, and AWD. Does that make it an xDrive 123d? As far as I know it is not available, especially in the US.

Originally Posted by Porta

Sorry nothing like that available in the UK!

You could have a M Sport 1 Series coupe with a 2L Bi-Turbo Diesel and 6MT though

Yeah, the closest thing to an AWD 1 Series with the 23d is going to be the X1, at least for the time being. Unless you want to step down to the Cooper Countryman Cooper D ALL4, but it's 1.6 L Diesel isn't going to impress you. And neither of them are coupes.

[gnat]

Originally Posted by Lester

Don't even thik about bringing over to the USA from Europe. It will be impounded by US Customs.

That's not technically correct. You can import any car you want, you just won't be able to get it to be road legal (e.g. only for track/testing use or display purposes) unless you go through DOT's approval process. For something that is already in the US (and built to US spec) (or classifies as an antique) that's not supposed to be as difficult, but it will still cost a significant amount of money.

No matter what your purpose of the car is, you have to use a registered importer to bring it in.

If it isn't a US spec or classic car, then it is probably going to require emissions and/or crash safety changes. Depending on the issue that can range from expensive to outright impossible depending on the change and the car. I've also read about plenty of cases that went through all that and the result ruined the car.

When I looked into bringing a 335xdt over, I was told it would be a minimum of $10k if another had already been approved and there were no changes that needed to be done. If it was the first to come in and/or changes were needed, they were telling me to expect to have to pay roughly what the car cost new. Sometimes it's less and sometimes more, but that was their rule of thumb from experience. Then of course you have the cost of the car itself, shipping, and taxes. The idea of a (potentially) $100k+ 335xdt wasn't appealing enough for me.

-dave

[Porta]

Originally Posted by ND40oz

Yeah, the closest thing to an AWD 1 Series with the 23d is going to be the X1, at least for the time being. Unless you want to step down to the Cooper Countryman Cooper D ALL4, but it's 1.6 L Diesel isn't going to impress you. And neither of them are coupes.

The only thing similar about the X1 and 1 series is the number and the engines really. The X1 is built on the 3 series touring floorplan!

The countryman diesel engines are indeed far from inspiring unfortunatly.

[ND40oz]

Originally Posted by Porta

The only thing similar about the X1 and 1 series is the number and the engines really. The X1 is built on the 3 series touring floorplan!

The countryman diesel engines are indeed far from inspiring unfortunatly.

Yeah, that's what I was getting at, not even the 3 series gets the 23d. But hey, the 1 is just a shortened 3 right, so the X1 is just a longer version...

[Porta]

Ok i see lol...i wont mention the D3 and open that can of worms

[m_thompson]

Originally Posted by ND40oz

Yeah, the closest thing to an AWD 1 Series with the 23d is going to be the X1, at least for the time being. Unless you want to step down to the Cooper Countryman Cooper D ALL4, but it's 1.6 L Diesel isn't going to impress you. And neither of them are coupes.

I went to the IAA show in Frankfurt for the introduction of the X1. It is way to big for me.

[ND40oz]

Originally Posted by m_thompson

I went to the IAA show in Frankfurt for the introduction of the X1. It is way to big for me.

I felt the exact opposite, way too small. I'd have problems taking 4 people and their luggage on a holiday without strapping stuff to the roof and you still wouldn't be able to use the rear view mirror since the back would be filled up. Waste of the term SUV/SAV if you ask me.

[aaron529]

Whats even more weird is that the UK 335i M averages 33 mpg as oppose to 22 mpg in the US version. I think our government wants us to use more oil. thats about the only viable answer i can come up with.

[aaron529]

Oh but it is .5 seconds slower

[LJKelley]

Originally Posted by aaron529

Whats even more weird is that the UK 335i M averages 33 mpg as oppose to 22 mpg in the US version. I think our government wants us to use more oil. thats about the only viable answer i can come up with.

UK Gallons do not equal US Gallons. Don't ask me why, but they are different forms of messurement. 1 US Gallons = .8 Imperial (UK) Gallons

[GeeRam]

Originally Posted by gnat

The (non-turbo) diesel engines could probably be a bit different and I hope the X5d and 335d are the precursors to them coming over too.

There are no 'non-turbo' BMW diesels....... every BMW diesel engine is a turbo.

It's probably been over 20 years since any European car maker has ever made a non-turbo diesel engine.

[FJUNO78]

Originally Posted by BrokenVert

Thats what never made sense to me. BMW bring over your full line of diesels and axe cars like the x5m and x6m and boom, instant cafe approval

agreed x5m and x6m are abortions

[ND40oz]

Originally Posted by FJUNO78

agreed x5m and x6m are awesome

Fixed