It's not a "real" M car

[checkmate]

Originally Posted by Pete_vB

I fully respect your decision.

I'm not sure you'll love the E46. I owned one in Germany for a couple years and it left me a little cold. It's very good, but just misses greatness, IMHO, after owning a number of really good cars. Now an E46 CSL is another matter. I'd have built one of those...

I used to have the E46 before I sold it for the E90. Not one regret but if I were in the market for a M car again it would be the E46. Its the best of BMW design and the aesthetics are timeless. Even the E9x generation doesn't look as good as that generation. Having seen the 1M twice (first at MPACT 2011) and at a local meet, we were unimpressed by the way it looked and sounded. The aforementioned things are subjective but in terms of handling, I have yet to find a M car to fault. Almost every M car is a benchmark in its class.

[Artemis]

Originally Posted by MM33

your cars ARE just spare parts from other cars...if you can't accept that as the truth, then you are lying to yourself.

- "parts bin": a bin for holding spare parts;
- "to cherry pick" or "to hand pick": to select only the best from a range of options, to select the best or most desirable, to select with great care.

Instead of garbling "1M is no real M car" and "1M is the poor man's M3" mumbo-jumbo, do us all an IRL favor:
- visit a BMW dealership where they have a 1M and an M3 for sale (look hard because the 1M has become a rare find);
- drive both back-to-back;
- make an offer under MSRP for both;
- let us guess which one of the two will definitely not leave the dealer's premises for an offer under MSRP;
- try to figure out the reason for the difference.

Bottom-line: Mum & Dad got you a younger brother. Same genes. Get over it, friendo.

[Pete_vB]

Originally Posted by checkmate

I used to have the E46 before I sold it for the E90. Not one regret but if I were in the market for a M car again it would be the E46. Its the best of BMW design and the aesthetics are timeless. Even the E9x generation doesn't look as good as that generation. Having seen the 1M twice (first at MPACT 2011) and at a local meet, we were unimpressed by the way it looked and sounded. The aforementioned things are subjective but in terms of handling, I have yet to find a M car to fault. Almost every M car is a benchmark in its class.

I agree on the E46 looks. I always felt mine didn't get power down as well as it should and felt a bit on the heavy side, but that's coming from a long line Porsches so maybe I've got warped standards. But if you know you like it, more power to you. I agree I like it more than the E9X cars, and do miss mine when I see a nice one drive by...

[checkmate]

Originally Posted by Artemis

- "parts bin": a bin for holding spare parts;
- "to cherry pick" or "to hand pick": to select only the best from a range of options, to select the best or most desirable, to select with great care.

Instead of garbling "1M is no real M car" and "1M is the poor man's M3" mumbo-jumbo, do us all an IRL favor:
- visit a BMW dealership where they have a 1M and an M3 for sale (look hard because the 1M has become a rare find);
- drive both back-to-back;
- make an offer under MSRP for both;
- let us guess which one of the two will definitely not leave the dealer's premises for an offer under MSRP;
- try to figure out the reason for the difference.

Bottom-line: Mum & Dad got you a younger brother. Same genes. Get over it, friendo.

That's only because BMW isn't making the 1M for as many/for as long as the M3. Had the M3 been made in similar numbers at that price point..guess what? M3 would take home the cake.

[b33g33]

Originally Posted by checkmate

That's only because BMW isn't making the 1M for as many/for as long as the M3. Had the M3 been made in similar numbers at that price point..guess what? M3 would take home the cake.

If I was Brad Pitt, I'd be boning Angelina.

[sergeremi]

Originally Posted by 1SerieStud

Dude, no one is "defending" anything lol get over yourself...we simply choose to go by what BMW M engineers think and say, after all, they built it and have been raving about it. You saying that the 1M is not a "pure" M car is as irrelevant to me as someone telling me Celine Dion is hosting a concert downtown this evening.

wait... is she?

[b33g33]

Originally Posted by sergeremi

wait... is she?

Apologies in advance and click 'play' at your own cognizance.

I'll even take Celine Dion over the drivel being spewed by you-know-who.

[dbchun]

this thread is quite entertaining

[1SerieStud]

Originally Posted by checkmate

That's only because BMW isn't making the 1M for as many/for as long as the M3. Had the M3 been made in similar numbers at that price point..guess what? M3 would take home the cake.

Had the M3 blah blah blah.....buuuuuuuuut....it wasn't!

Originally Posted by sergeremi

wait... is she?

Originally Posted by b33g33

Apologies in advance and click 'play' at your own cognizance.

I'll even take Celine Dion over the drivel being spewed by you-know-who.

[Beemer22]

Moderator, close thread please....

[Robert]

Not a real M car. What matters most, driving pleasure and performance or the M badge on the rear lid of the car? Arguing whether its a M car is like arguing whether a Gucci bag without the logo is still a gucci bag. Who cares, sounds too much like competition for the biggest brand whore. The argument should be the performance of 1M against rest of the M cars in the line up and I think 1M stands pretty tall against x6m, x5m, and up to par with M3. Now if we use the performance/dollar figure 1M beats all of them.

[rossii]

Some you guys really get you panties in a twist over stupid sh*t.......

[ESC OFF]

Originally Posted by 135tii

Yea..I just traded in a 2009 M3 sedan on a Cayman R and heard just how great the trade in value was..good luck with that!

CaymanR LOL that's not a real Porsche!

[CarJunkie]

My dealer has a 2009 M3 sedan with 20k miles for $43k. I test drove it and loved the sound, but the car was not otherwise impressive to me. Felt big and heavy. Then he mentioned they had a 1-series M coming in that wasn't yet spoken for, and the rest is history.

[rossii]

Originally Posted by ESC OFF

CaymanR LOL that's not a real Porsche!

[Artemis]

Originally Posted by checkmate

That's only because BMW isn't making the 1M for as many/for as long as the M3. Had the M3 been made in similar numbers at that price point..guess what? M3 would take home the cake.

All that nonsense about "not real" and "not pure" lacks the slightest practical use. If a car is worth sporting the ///M badge for BMW M GmbH, then what credentials do you have to challenge their point of view? Moreover, I cannot think of any practical consequence of your assumption, except for silly "mine's bigger than yours" playground ego issues. Sue BMW M GmbH if you are convinced that it was an ill-founded move of them to present the 1M as their latest addition to the ///M family. Or sell your M3 because - in your view - the "pureness" of the ///M badge was contaminated and doomed with the release of that dreadful souped up 135i earlier this year.

[Oliver1]

So the decal on the engine cover is in reference to being Powered By BMW Marketing and not Motorsport?

[Grey Dove]

Originally Posted by Oliver1

So the decal on the engine cover is in reference to being Powered By BMW Marketing and not Motorsport?

Please don't start criticizing the ONLY original part of the whole car

[Die ///M Rakete]

This thread is like a root canal.....long and painful.

Someone please put it out of its misery

[AM1N]

Originally Posted by MM33

jealous? LOL. i could get a 1M *and* get cash back if i wanted to trade my M3 in.....not sure how that makes me jealous?

you guys are properly delusional....

ha. ha. ha