Evolve 125i ECU Tune +52 BHP +40 lb.ft torque

[TheSt|G]

Originally Posted by Bimmer-Bob

Yeah, I forgot they were overseas. Would definitely be interested to see your dyno, but you have the headers too, so it won't really be apples to apples. I mean, I'd like to do the headers eventually, but will probably start with just the manifold swap and tune first. I'm just trying to decide between Evolve & Active at this point...the Evolve reviews sound great, but some of the Active reviews on the 3er forum sound pretty good, too. And they have some decent dynos of 328i's before and after the DISA + tune conversion showing final powers numbers ~265-270 bhp. Decisions, decisions...

I would without a doubt go with Evolve. I've seen first hand how they completely revolutionized S54 tuning. Sal is frankly a savant when it comes to BMW tuning and coding.

That and if you are doing headers eventually, only Evolve has a tune for the Supersprint headers and only Evolve has the ability to code you to pass emissions. Also, don't you have to mail in your ECU for AA?

[Bimmer-Bob]

Originally Posted by TheSt|G

I would without a doubt go with Evolve. I've seen first hand how they completely revolutionized S54 tuning. Sal is frankly a savant when it comes to BMW tuning and coding.

That and if you are doing headers eventually, only Evolve has a tune for the Supersprint headers and only Evolve has the ability to code you to pass emissions. Also, don't you have to mail in your ECU for AA?

I appreciate the advice. I'm not 100% sure that I want to do the headers because of potential emissions issues (I'm currently living in CA, and I don't think the emissions testing here is OBDII-based), but it's nice to have the option as I suspect that the headers are a huge piece to the power puzzle in our cars. But I'm curious why/how the software is specifically coded for the headers? Doesn't the ECU adapt to the reduced back pressure eventually on it's own anyway? I thought the main function of the tune was to take advantage of the DISa properly, as well as adjust things like throttle sensitivity, air:fuel, Valvetronic/VANOS settings, etc.?

Anyway, AA sells a handheld tool which allows you to load the software onto your car yourself, much like the Evolve-R does. Also, they have a dealer who does the tunes local to me, so if I went that route I would save a few hundred bucks by not having to buy the tool.

[Obioban]

I'd go with evolve for a number of reasons:
a) I think they're a better tuner in general, both in customer service and ability to tune
b) They've been tuning 130i's since they came out, since they're based in europe. They know what to do to get power out of them on top of enabling DISA
c) They're the only SuperSprint dealer in England. Meaning, they've been making tunes for 130s with SS headers for a long time-- they know what they're doing there. I doubt AA has done a single DISA enabled header car yet, much less tuned one on their dyno to see what works and what doesn't.
(to your above point, yes, header tunes are significantly different-- e.g., the only hardware difference between the US spec and euro spec e46 M3 is headers, yet the tune differs in VANOS timing, AFRs, timing, everything. Significantly different tunes).
d) the Evolve cable is also a code reader and clearer, that displays the codes in plain english
e) Evolve seems to have a better handle on modern BMW ECUs-- e.g. AA has blown up a couple SCed e9X M3s in their development process. Evolve has not in theirs.
f) As far as I know, Evolve is the only tuner that can disable emissions systems and still leave them showing as "ready" when plugged into OBD2 readers.

Not ever a little bit of a tough decision, imo.

[andrey_gta]

Originally Posted by Obioban

I doubt AA has done a single DISA enabled header car yet, much less tuned one on their dyno to see what works and what doesn't.

They tuned one e9x, the result is on e90post n52 section.
I need to compare it to their other dyno's,to make note of the gains.

I do know that for me,a header tune would be the one that makes OBII say ready vs just off. The Value is there for emission standards that plug in and read, have to read up what my local req's are.

As far as regular AA tune vs regular Evolve tune,
I think my evolve tune made for 91.5-92 octane is just as good as AA for 93 octane, but it allows me to use 91 octane. Comparing dyno images from others, I see that Evolve tune is smoother vs AA's winch has a 1 or 2 spikes before and/or after a disa moment. Will know soon, finally have time to dyno

Had a surprising moment after 3 months on the tune. I was on an on ramp on an empty hwy, gunned it in 6th. So the acceleration didn't feel too strong.. little did i know I was going faster than 170km/h, i expected to be under or at 150km/h had to slow down to 125km/h as soon as i realized what happeend...

[Dafttt]

This popped up in my sub box this morning. Nice set up you got going on Imran

[631twentyeighteye]

to evolve- TAKE MY MONEY

Can't wait until i can afford a DISA and their tune.

[TheSt|G]

Originally Posted by HavidDasselhoff

This popped up in my sub box this morning. Nice set up you got going on Imran

[u2b]http://www.yocom/watch?v=kIW-3QDmNWM[/u2b]

"We mod our cars for actual performance, not looks"

I love you Evolve.

[The Dowager Countess]

i wish evolve would hurry up and make a n51 disa tune for us poor souls in places that love nature.

[Imran@Evolve]

Originally Posted by HavidDasselhoff

This popped up in my sub box this morning. Nice set up you got going on Imran

Thanks! That video has now gone truly viral. They are doing a feature on our E92 M3 Supercharger next.

Originally Posted by TheSt|G

"We mod our cars for actual performance, not looks"

I love you Evolve.

Originally Posted by The Dowager Countess

i wish evolve would hurry up and make a n51 disa tune for us poor souls in places that love nature.

If we had the N51 here we would have it done. We will have some time later in Summer to do some remote development but need a willing participant who doesn't mind spending a bit of time on a dyno.

[Obioban]

Originally Posted by Imran@Evolve

Thanks! That video has now gone truly viral. They are doing a feature on our E92 M3 Supercharger next.







If we had the N51 here we would have it done. We will have some time later in Summer to do some remote development but need a willing participant who doesn't mind spending a bit of time on a dyno.

What's the back story on that video? Looks to be part of a larger tuner shootout of some sort?

[Imran@Evolve]

Originally Posted by Obioban

What's the back story on that video? Looks to be part of a larger tuner shootout of some sort?

Yes - the video is a pre-cursor to an event called Celebration of Tuning which as a few weeks ago. I smacked that GT2's backside (granted it was stock except as exhaust!). Managed a standing mile in 30.7 seconds and 178 MPH terminal breaking the previous record for an E60 M5 by 8 MPH.

Our M5 only has our headers and tune for power. No air filters, intakes, scoops or pulleys

[flipm3]

Originally Posted by Imran@Evolve

Yes - the video is a pre-cursor to an event called Celebration of Tuning which as a few weeks ago. I smacked that GT2's backside (granted it was stock except as exhaust!). Managed a standing mile in 30.7 seconds and 178 MPH terminal breaking the previous record for an E60 M5 by 8 MPH.

Our M5 only has our headers and tune for power. No air filters, intakes, scoops or pulleys

Please put a S85B50 in my E46 with modified Evolve Stepped Headers.

Thank you.

[Imran@Evolve]

Originally Posted by flipm3

Please put a S85B50 in my E46 with modified Evolve Stepped Headers.

Thank you.

Ship your car over.

Also include some Hershey Peanut Butter Cups.

That is all.

PS. Don't expect to get it shipped back

[Obioban]

Originally Posted by Imran@Evolve

Ship your car over.

Also include some Hershey Peanut Butter Cups.

That is all.

PS. Don't expect to get it shipped back

Seriously, there IS a market for a s65/s85 swap kit for the e46, keeping it OBD2 compliant. What's it gonna take?!?!?

[Dafttt]

Originally Posted by Obioban

Seriously, there IS a market for a s65/s85 swap kit for the e46, keeping it OBD2 compliant. What's it gonna take?!?!?

I don't know, but when you find out let me have your s54!

[flipm3]

Originally Posted by Imran@Evolve

Ship your car over.

Also include some Hershey Peanut Butter Cups.

That is all.

PS. Don't expect to get it shipped back

Better yet, I should fly you guys to Chicago. You can have all the PB cups you want, haha.

PS. Just don't expect to ever get back home. I will make sure you fall in love with the city and never want to go back

[TheSt|G]

Originally Posted by Obioban

Seriously, there IS a market for a s65/s85 swap kit for the e46, keeping it OBD2 compliant. What's it gonna take?!?!?

And while you are at it, make us one for the E82. Everyone knows the 1M needs it desperately to get that junk out from under the hood.

[mikal7]

Stig! Dyno your damn car already

[Kgolf31]

Originally Posted by Imran@Evolve

If we had the N51 here we would have it done. We will have some time later in Summer to do some remote development but need a willing participant who doesn't mind spending a bit of time on a dyno.

Any compensation/special offers?

PM me details please. N51 car here.

[TheSt|G]

Originally Posted by mikal7

Stig! Dyno your damn car already

Waiting on two more changes.

[TheSt|G]

Andrey, clear out your PM inbox.

[The Dowager Countess]

Imram, I would be a willing participant for your n51 development project and can certainly give up as much time as you need for dyno time and testing. I am in Boston, USA.