question about DTC with winter tire

soubarioux · 11-03-2010, 08:34 PM

Hi I have juste installed, 4 nokian hakka 5 205/50/17 non run flat on my
135i 2011

since there on i can not accellerate fast without taking of the DTC, even a on the cruise control in 6 speed, it wont resume without the dtc flashing

Am i the only one with that promblem, what can i do

Thanks !!

Evice · 11-03-2010, 10:55 PM

You have almost bicycle tires on your 135.. That's why. You need wider tires then 205 on your traction wheels.. are you kidding me?

toolcan · 11-03-2010, 11:15 PM

Your running the same setup as zipnbye. The haka 5's are more winter control than performance in that size. Tradeoff for much better snow and ice traction.

soubarioux · 11-04-2010, 07:03 AM

The OEM size of the 17'' is 205/50/17 all around

Am I the only one whith this problem?

Thaddy · 11-04-2010, 07:15 AM

Please tell me you aren't trying to bomb around your city with skinny ass winter tires on. Please.

soubarioux · 11-04-2010, 09:39 AM

Theses sizes are dealer installed !

Thaddy · 11-04-2010, 09:43 AM

How hard are you trying to accelerate? Skinny tires with a lot of soft tread is great for winter traction, but terrible for the pavement. I'm guessing you might be driving a bit too aggressive and the DTC is detecting some minor slipping.

soubarioux · 11-04-2010, 10:47 AM

1-2-3 is ok its 4 and up, like to go from 100kmh to 110kmh in 6 ??

I dont think that a stock 135 has that much power to spin the tire

ZIPNBYE · 11-04-2010, 12:24 PM

Well, lets see.

Size = good.

Winter compound = slippery on bare asphalt, more so when it's not freezing and worse when hot.

Lots of power = spin.

I can spin my summer tires when driving in a spirited manner, so yes, you need to adjust your driving style when wearing your winter boots. That's a no-brainer!!!

Kcc · 11-04-2010, 12:50 PM

Will lower Tire Presure helps? OP, what PSI you had on your F/R tires?

Kcc

soubarioux · 11-04-2010, 01:17 PM

Mayby you are right i have to ajust my driving i used to have a legacy gt awd

the tire pressure is 35psi on all 4

thanks

Miguel08 · 11-04-2010, 01:20 PM

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Originally Posted by soubarioux

The OEM size of the 17'' is 205/50/17 all around

Am I the only one whith this problem?

I feel you! I have a 128i and just put on my winter kit this weekend, with 205/50/17 (Continental Extreme WinterContact) and I've noticed the same thing! And I don,t have your horsepower! I to was wondering WTF!

I imagine we just have to get used to it....

Evice · 11-04-2010, 04:58 PM

For winter with lots of snow, OPs 17s are fine. However, it is not okay for summer, dry pavement.

Dackelone · 11-04-2010, 06:40 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by soubarioux

The OEM size of the 17'' is 205/50/17 all around

Am I the only one whith this problem?

I don't have that problem. But then again I don't drive WOT like an idiot with winter tires on!

Sometimes, I can feel some wheel slippage. But its winter time and one must... well... chill out some (pun intended!) - on your driving style.

There a wee bit less traction from a standstill... but on a roll my snow tires are ok. The main thing I notice is that my 17"s give a lighter steering feel them with my summer 18's on.

soubarioux · 11-05-2010, 09:34 AM

I have reajusted the tire pressure, and redid a reset on the computer and it seems to be better,

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soubarioux New Member 0 Rep 15 Posts Drives: 135i 2011 Mpack 6mt Leman Blue Join Date: Sep 2010 Location: Montreal,Canada iTrader: (0)	question about DTC with winter tire Hi I have juste installed, 4 nokian hakka 5 205/50/17 non run flat on my 135i 2011 since there on i can not accellerate fast without taking of the DTC, even a on the cruise control in 6 speed, it wont resume without the dtc flashing Am i the only one with that promblem, what can i do Thanks !!
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11-03-2010, 10:55 PM	#2
Evice Major 194 Rep 1,457 Posts Drives: E92M3 Join Date: Apr 2009 Location: Somewhere here iTrader: (1)	You have almost bicycle tires on your 135.. That's why. You need wider tires then 205 on your traction wheels.. are you kidding me? __________________ My Track Videos
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toolcan New Member 2 Rep 5 Posts Drives: 2008 135i Cab Join Date: May 2010 Location: Edmonton, Ab iTrader: (1)	Your running the same setup as zipnbye. The haka 5's are more winter control than performance in that size. Tradeoff for much better snow and ice traction.
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soubarioux New Member 0 Rep 15 Posts Drives: 135i 2011 Mpack 6mt Leman Blue Join Date: Sep 2010 Location: Montreal,Canada iTrader: (0)	The OEM size of the 17'' is 205/50/17 all around Am I the only one whith this problem?
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11-04-2010, 09:43 AM	#7
Thaddy Second Lieutenant 7 Rep 285 Posts Drives: 2011 135i Join Date: Oct 2010 Location: Pittsburgh iTrader: (1)	How hard are you trying to accelerate? Skinny tires with a lot of soft tread is great for winter traction, but terrible for the pavement. I'm guessing you might be driving a bit too aggressive and the DTC is detecting some minor slipping.
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11-04-2010, 10:47 AM	#8
soubarioux New Member 0 Rep 15 Posts Drives: 135i 2011 Mpack 6mt Leman Blue Join Date: Sep 2010 Location: Montreal,Canada iTrader: (0)	1-2-3 is ok its 4 and up, like to go from 100kmh to 110kmh in 6 ?? I dont think that a stock 135 has that much power to spin the tire
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Kcc First Lieutenant 9 Rep 373 Posts Drives: 4 Wheels with a turbo Join Date: Jul 2010 Location: Markham, Toronto iTrader: (0)	Will lower Tire Presure helps? OP, what PSI you had on your F/R tires? Kcc __________________ 135i - AW
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soubarioux New Member 0 Rep 15 Posts Drives: 135i 2011 Mpack 6mt Leman Blue Join Date: Sep 2010 Location: Montreal,Canada iTrader: (0)	Mayby you are right i have to ajust my driving i used to have a legacy gt awd the tire pressure is 35psi on all 4 thanks
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Evice Major 194 Rep 1,457 Posts Drives: E92M3 Join Date: Apr 2009 Location: Somewhere here iTrader: (1)	For winter with lots of snow, OPs 17s are fine. However, it is not okay for summer, dry pavement. __________________ My Track Videos
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11-05-2010, 09:34 AM	#15
soubarioux New Member 0 Rep 15 Posts Drives: 135i 2011 Mpack 6mt Leman Blue Join Date: Sep 2010 Location: Montreal,Canada iTrader: (0)	I have reajusted the tire pressure, and redid a reset on the computer and it seems to be better,
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