Has anyone dynoed a 128i with the evolve tune?

[631twentyeighteye]

The tunes also add a lot of midrange power by smoothing it out, so the peak HP's aren't far off from DISA only, but the actual drive-ability is MUCH better.

[Solo_M_Tech]

Originally Posted by 631twentyeighteye

The tunes also add a lot of midrange power by smoothing it out, so the peak HP's aren't far off from DISA only, but the actual drive-ability is MUCH better.

Thank you for the clarification. So an ECU that is from a non disa car, like a n52 128i, when retrofitted with the electronically controlled disa manifold, will operate normally? I was under the impression the ecu needed to be tuned to operate the disa valves?

[631twentyeighteye]

Yeah, our's n52's still have the wires for the DISA and once you give them some time to adapt them seem to function normally. Mine made some really really weird woosh and wirring sounds until after i tuned it, but i only drove it for about 20 miles before tuning it so i'm not sure when it would fully adapt. Andrey will know more on this.

[Solo_M_Tech]

That's interesting!

[andrey_gta]

@Sinister_1;

Yes, when you install 3 stage/disa manifold, your tune will simply refine & fix dips & adds gains everywhere, no matter how small they are. Throttle responce is the cherry on top

Regarding euro 130i LCI/ Euro X3/X5 flash
If its just the flash, there are some un refinements. E90 330i guys said tunes fixed the middle dip. Evolve's tune on preLCI 130i's fixed the 6-7k range too.

I have not seen any dyno's of LCI 130i with MSV80 DME.

[andrey_gta]

Originally Posted by Sinister_1

That's interesting!

Found something for you & everyone here.

Wintertuning, one those that claim 270 PS/268 hp has a review where the user dyno indepently:
http://www.1erforum.de/bmw-125i/wint...ng-155700.html
Google translation

Hi, a week after I picked up my 125i in April 2013 in Munich, to Vienna and back retracted, I let Harald Winter the software package play 350 Nm 271 hp. Measurements before / after it was not, but at an affordable price. Although I did not know exactly how the 125i was previously properly because I was yet to enter it on, but I could tell there is more thrust. However, it was and is there a noticeable slump in 3000 1/min and 4000 1/min. Harald Winter told me by e-mail of what DISA switching times and that would be that. In August I have made ​​in Dortmund, a performance measurement: 261 hp and 319 Nm. And clearly the dips at 3000 1/min and 4000 1/min. The performance is ok yes, but then the torque but much lower than promised. Well, Harald says the burglaries were of any car with variable intake manifolds, ie DISA to do so. Can me someone who also has a performance optimization confirm? And the lower torque compared to its diagram is on the homepage, because mine is a switch, and his diagram was made ​​with an automatic, and of course without dips. Well, and that with speedometer 261 km / h, so really I would sometimes 250 km / h tap, conclusion is this he first says nothing. What are your experiences? Greeting Rainer

So their dynos when scaled from wheel hp to crank hp( as all their tuners do there) he only got 261 hp which is not much more than stock LCI 130i and he feels the dips, a character of stock usa 330i MSV70. Another user sais MS tunning has them too, but not as drastic & otherwise unnoticeable as the Wintertuning guy describes them to be. So Marcel > Winter here.
digi-tec tunning also makes a statement to say their dips are not drastic

I do not feel dips with Evolve. Maybe someone else would, I dont. Obviously if I look for them I notice.

Winter reviewer sais he bought a 150Euro part from the 130i, and it smoothed out the dips. Wonder what part...

Also they talk about octane of the tunes here, they state 95 octane minimum:http://www.1erforum.de/bmw-125i/125i...108501-13.html

[maupineda]

The deeps are there by manifold design and though they can de smoothened they simply cannot be erased. I can feel them with my evolve tune, though at a lesser extend

[andrey_gta]

Originally Posted by maupineda

The deeps are there by manifold design and though they can de smoothened they simply cannot be erased. I can feel them with my evolve tune, though at a lesser extend

Yeah, quite lesser, I would need to look for them to notice.

Have you had a chance to drive it hard?

[andrey_gta]

Originally Posted by 631twentyeighteye

Basically, andrey's 128 is putting down similar power with DISA, Evolve, and secondary cat delete as my car is, with mapleridge catless headers, AA, and DISA. about 225RWHP STD correction.

Now this doesn't necessarily account for the differences in dyno's, but it shows promise that Evolve really is better than AA.

His torque numbers are also better than mine(when compared to before i had catless headers) as shown in the graphs posted throughout.

Have a look at the following, dyno's differ by alot, but you should have had a simmilar increase in shape over noheaders

Originally Posted by GTKrockeTT

Username: GTKrockeTT
Car/Engine: 328i/N52B30
Transmission: Manual
Mods: Mapleridge Headers, 3 stage manifold and AA tune
Dyno type: Dynojet
Peak numbers: 242whp/215wtq
Graph:

[maupineda]

Originally Posted by andrey_gta

Yeah, quite lesser, I would need to look for them to notice.

Have you had a chance to drive it hard?

Yeah! Had the chance to take it to a mountain road and I was impressed with how much easier she would go uphill in 6th and still be able to gain speed easily , just as if it was a flat road. I could go from 80 km/h to 120 km/h on a steep hill in about 11 seconds (rpm range is 2000 to 3000, right were most gains are), this may sound slow but remember Mexico city is no less than 2200 meters above sea level so I am about 24% down on power! I also had the chance to do some passes and the way she goes to the redline really makes a difference, before she struggled after 6500 rpm

In my case I did feel must of the changes from 2000 - 3000 rpm, the deep kind of starts actually a bit before 3000, then she picks up again at 4000 and from there to the redline she just flies. The 3000 to 4000 range is where the car feels less lively but again, that is the nature of the things. Also the gains on the 6000 to 7000 rpms range are notable as she doesn't run out of puff as before.

The good thing is that the car drives and behaves just like with the factory tune but with more poke everywhere, in terms of smoothness is pretty much the same, the deeps can be felt as there are more gains lower and upper in the power, but again, nothing we can do.

I think in my case I don't feel the same transformation 128i owner would because my car was already in the high state of tune right from the factory. I think I just need to take her to the shore and see how all those horses feel, with the OE tune first gear would spin tires easily and if low on traction second gear would do it also, very curious to feel all the power now with the evolve map in she.

[631twentyeighteye]

@andrey, The DISA+aa stage 2 disa tune netted me about 18hp/15ft/lbs peak hp and nice gains throughout the curve. Only way to really compare our cars is a 30-155mph race

[andrey_gta]

Originally Posted by 631twentyeighteye

Only way to really compare our cars is a 30-155mph race

I just wanted to show you the latest dyno from e90post that shows a simmilar car to you getting 245 hp in STD, but more importantly clear gaisn with your headers.

Assume SS headers would be netting more gains, resulting in cars that push much above 220 whp in SAE

@TheStIG
Do you notice Evolve + headers dying after 6.5k?? As if its DISA+No tune all over again

[631twentyeighteye]

I see you're point, I'm going to contact my Dyno shop and see if they can email me my DISA+aa tune best run and then my DISA+AA+mapleridge headers layed over it to see what gains the headers provided in my case.

[Taskmaster]

Am I seeing this right, the Evolve tune added no peak power? It looks like they may have played with the spark and a/f and that's it.