Single Turbo 135???!

[135i_TT]

So i was looking up videos of the 135i and ran into this National Speeds BMW 135i Dyno Video pushing 351hp n 373 lbs ft torque w/ just the Dinan chip but... if you read his comments he states that hes going to convert the car to a single turbo?!?!?!


Heres the url:

Whats your thought on this??

[crzy4135i]

Originally Posted by 135i_TT

So i was looking up videos of the 135i and ran into this National Speeds BMW 135i Dyno Video pushing 351hp n 373 lbs ft torque w/ just the Dinan chip but... if you read his comments he states that hes going to convert the car to a single turbo?!?!?!


Heres the url:

Whats your thought on this??

My thoughts are the single turbo setup will be great for bragging rights but terrible for daily driving. If you were looking for more hp (and had cash to spend) you could always try slightly larger twin turbos and maintain some low end torque.

[135i_TT]

Really bragging rights for a single turboed 135i? I thought a lot of 135i had bragging rights for having two turbos and not one??? But yea if i had cash to spend id buy larger twin turbos but not take off one of the turbos thats what makes the 135i so unique i think. I was going to upgrade the turbo i had in my Jetta but it got totaled so im upgrading from VW to the 135i =)

[fourmicah]

Originally Posted by crzy4135i

My thoughts are the single turbo setup will be great for bragging rights but terrible for daily driving. If you were looking for more hp (and had cash to spend) you could always try slightly larger twin turbos and maintain some low end torque.

Agreed, the whole set up is perfect. Why ruin that with turbo lag.

[frimmelnojerz]

some people dont need the car for every day driving. ever hearrdd of a supra? they came with twin turbos and the single turbo setup is much faster.

[fourmicah]

Originally Posted by Frimmelnojerz

some people dont need the car for every day driving. ever hearrdd of a supra? they came with twin turbos and the single turbo setup is much faster.

If someone gets 800 RWHP out of a 135i then I will change my mind. Actually, lets challenge someone to do it. That would be cool.

[frimmelnojerz]

i really think its a matter of time before we begin seeing much higher HP numbers out of this time. upgraded turbos are most likely right around the corner and with all the possible upgrades right now the 135 is looking right around 400WHP. the car hasnt even been out a full year.

[135i_TT]

Originally Posted by fourmicah

If someone gets 800 RWHP out of a 135i then I will change my mind. Actually, lets challenge someone to do it. That would be cool.

That would be awesome..
but as for the Supra, did Toyota make only Twin-Turbo set up or both Twin and Single Turbo set ups? I haven't really looked into that car but i know it's one of hell of a car from all the videos ive seen.

[fourmicah]

Originally Posted by 135i_TT

That would be awesome..
but as for the Supra, did Toyota make only Twin-Turbo set up or both Twin and Single Turbo set ups? I haven't really looked into that car but i know it's one of hell of a car from all the videos ive seen.

Twin turbo and NA only. They do have an enormous amount of potential as long as you can keep the ass end in line. I think I would go with a Lexus IS300 since it has the same motor, the skyline because of the inline 6, or of course the 135i. I'm sure someone will do it and it will be insane. If I volunteer my car will someone sponsor me to hit the 800 RWHP mark?

[135i_TT]

Yes they do have a lot of potential like you said if the person can keep it in line.. and boy do the 135i's have potential LOTS OF IT! =) I dont really like the idea of removing one of the turbos from the 135i but it will be interesting to see if he can push more Hp/Torque and better numbers then the original Twin-Turbo set up .

[crzy4135i]

Originally Posted by 135i_TT

That would be awesome..
but as for the Supra, did Toyota make only Twin-Turbo set up or both Twin and Single Turbo set ups? I haven't really looked into that car but i know it's one of hell of a car from all the videos ive seen.

Look at the dyno plot from one of those cars. Yea, it has very high max hp but next to nothing down low torque-wise, which is nice to have for most street driving. The big single turbo setup is great for a single purpose dyno/drag car, but pushes the car farther away from daily driving duty.

[fourmicah]

Originally Posted by 135i_TT

Yes they do have a lot of potential like you said if the person can keep it in line.. and boy do the 135i's have potential LOTS OF IT! =) .

My only worry is having to rebuild things once you want to go over the 400 RWHP mark. I'm interested to see when someone will see how far the motor can be pushed before bust.

[135i_TT]

Originally Posted by crzy4135i

\The big single turbo setup is great for a single purpose dyno/drag car, but pushes the car farther away from daily driving duty.

True, I've seen one Twin-Turbo Supra on the road n at the meets ive seen a few but i have yet to see a single turbo Supra on the roads.

[3lements]

why not custom manifolds/ turbo set up?
One two cyl mani(stock turbo) and one four cyl mani (gt28)?

It would be very little lag, and high boost. Almost like twin charging with using a supercharger for low RPMs, but easier.

I just thing that'll be neat, high possibility of not working correctly, but neat.

[135i_TT]

Originally Posted by fourmicah

My only worry is having to rebuild things once you want to go over the 400 RWHP mark. I'm interested to see when someone will see how far the motor can be pushed before bust.

Thats a good point, but hopefully BMW built the engine precise enough to where we can go well over the 400 RWHP mark beause I intend to do so with my 135i when i get mine! :smile:

[fourmicah]

Originally Posted by 135i_TT

Thats a good point, but hopefully BMW built the engine precise enough to where we can go well over the 400 RWHP mark beause I intend to do so with my 135i when i get mine! :smile:

This is starting to sound fun.

[135i_TT]

Originally Posted by fourmicah

This is starting to sound fun.

Hell yea dude! I wish people would make a post on how much everyone is pushing with the modifications they have done!

[jeremyc74]

I'm pretty sure we're going to hit the power limitations of the stock bottom end way before the 800Hp mark.

[135i_TT]

I hope not.. i think theres someone out there who will try and break a high number mark and succeed, i mean they made a cobalt have 900+hp n Supras with incredible numbers as well I want the Germans vehicles to start doing being capable of doing the same I'm hoping the 135i is capable of breaking high numbers..

[ichiban]

a single turbo application is already on the way over on e90post. coming from a suby, i can tell you that a garrett GT30R or even 35R would not increase lag significantly, and would also give the 1er a much needed top end advantage. the i remember the 35R reaching full boost at around 3600 rpm, and that's o nthe flat four on STi's. People DD'd that setup and had no problems with it. And i'd imagine the 1's inline 6 would even less problems with it.

[ichiban]

Originally Posted by 135i_TT

I hope not.. i think theres someone out there who will try and break a high number mark and succeed, i mean they made a cobalt have 900+hp n Supras with incredible numbers as well I want the Germans vehicles to start doing being capable of doing the same I'm hoping the 135i is capable of breaking high numbers..

well all those high hp supra or cobalt applications have custom everything. The gear ratio, tranny, rear end, axles drive shaft are all changed. Nothing in the drivetrain department on the 1, stock, would be able to withstand 800whp. i can guarantee you that.

[AwesomeBMW]

Two is always better than 1 (this could make a good that's what she said joke)