Is anyone else using H&R OE springs?

Gogud · 05-29-2009, 08:34 PM

I'm having issues with the rear ride height. I'll elaborate after I get some sort of resolution. I just want to find out if others ended up somewhere close to what was advertised (approx. 1" drop front and rear).

ulrichd · 05-29-2009, 09:34 PM

I think you may be the first one since they were on backorder for so long. I finally caved and went with Eibach/Koni FSD.

wa128 · 05-30-2009, 09:23 AM

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Originally Posted by Gogud

I'm having issues with the rear ride height. I'll elaborate after I get some sort of resolution. I just want to find out if others ended up somewhere close to what was advertised (approx. 1" drop front and rear).

What's the problem? Too high, too low? At least you can give others thinking of getting these something to consider.

MastaMind · 05-30-2009, 09:32 AM

As Ulrichd said, not many people will have these because they were on back order for so long. If you post up the issue, maybe someone can chime in with a potential solution.

Did you properly seat the springs in the rubber perches?

135forthewin · 05-30-2009, 10:48 AM

I was just looking at purchasing a set of those yesterday, and found this:

http://www.jlevistreetwerks.com/BMW-...sllll1ak1uq2l7

They say it lowers the front .75 inches and the rear .3 inches, which is a very tiny drop. Where did you see 1" front+rear?

Gogud · 05-30-2009, 12:48 PM

http://www.hrsprings.com/scripts/app...Find3&MakeID=4

The specs come from H&R. The front has a tad more than 3/4" drop and the rear is stock height-- higher than stock on the left, and slightly lower on the right. The installation was done by a local German car specialist who I have expeience with. They do top notch work and they are the local Dynan dealer also. I had the rear wheels off to check it out and looked and put my fingers into the spring cups to check fit. I can't find anything amiss. There is a note (12) about lowering height variance with special factory sport suspensions. I have the BMW Performance suspension. I changed back to the stock rear shocks which puts everything in the rear as it comes stock from the factory, then drove around to settle everything and the result is no change. I didn't want to hash this whole thing out on the internet until the parties involved have
had a shot at a resolution. I just wanted to see if others had a different outcome. Some people love controversy while others sincerely want to help. Help is appreciated, but please don't assume that bonehead mistakes were made. Ideas have already been tossed back and forth and I have photos of the setup.

wa128 · 05-31-2009, 04:31 PM

Thanks for the info. I have heard that BMWs tend to sit higher on the left. The driver's weight will then more or less balance the car side to side. If the left versus right difference is just a few millimeters that might be why. Try having the shop do a measure with you in the car.

ulrichd · 05-31-2009, 08:41 PM

The claimed drops are all over the place. My Eibach Pro kit is supposed to lower 1 1/4", I am currently at 5/8" to 3/4". I don't mind actually the car looks great but maybe its different for a 128 with sport suspension. I noticed the spring serial numbers are different from the 135.

ulrichd · 05-31-2009, 08:44 PM

As stated above this is a 3/4" drop which is about perfect with the standard wheel/tire combo. Oh and I have 5mm spacers all around.

Berduderunner · 05-31-2009, 09:10 PM

I received my OE's a week ago, just waiting to install them when i get back home. Keep us updated PLZ!

fourtailpipes · 06-02-2009, 01:18 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Gogud

http://www.hrsprings.com/scripts/app...Find3&MakeID=4

The specs come from H&R. The front has a tad more than 3/4" drop and the rear is stock height-- higher than stock on the left, and slightly lower on the right. The installation was done by a local German car specialist who I have expeience with. They do top notch work and they are the local Dynan dealer also. I had the rear wheels off to check it out and looked and put my fingers into the spring cups to check fit. I can't find anything amiss. There is a note (12) about lowering height variance with special factory sport suspensions. I have the BMW Performance suspension. I changed back to the stock rear shocks which puts everything in the rear as it comes stock from the factory, then drove around to settle everything and the result is no change. I didn't want to hash this whole thing out on the internet until the parties involved have
had a shot at a resolution. I just wanted to see if others had a different outcome. Some people love controversy while others sincerely want to help. Help is appreciated, but please don't assume that bonehead mistakes were made. Ideas have already been tossed back and forth and I have photos of the setup.

can we see?

Gogud · 06-03-2009, 06:46 PM

It is strange how the photos seem to make the difference minimal. In person it certainly is not. News is that there may be replacement rears available. I'll know more later.

FORCED AIR · 06-03-2009, 09:35 PM

Looks like a big difference to me....

fourtailpipes · 06-03-2009, 11:06 PM

yea... i'd be unhappy. call tirerack and/or H&R if you're 100% certain that the install is correct.

i'm still wishing there were a spring that lowered the rear more than the front. the car is already raked out from the factory. i dont want any more rake!!!

SV Concepts III · 06-04-2009, 12:42 PM

H&R springs tend to have a rake whether you go with the Sports, Race or OE. The OE is their least aggressive spring so you cannot expect too much of a drop. If you are looking for lower, I suggest the Sport springs.

fourtailpipes · 06-04-2009, 01:31 PM

the problem i see is that they advertize a 1" drop front and rear (or is that just tirerack, not H&R?), when it appears that there's a large front drop, and little to no rear drop. the rake is fine for people who are looking for that, but i almost ordered the OE springs yesterday after seeing them in stock at the tirerack, but then i saw this thread, and am glad i didn't! great timing! maybe performance springs are the way to go for me...

320Devil · 06-08-2009, 09:29 PM

Gogud,

Where did you hear that replacement springs might come available? I have a set of OEs sitting in my garage that I want to put on in place of my Eibach springs, but I think I'll wait this one out to see what you and others have to say.

This is probably a dumb idea, but would it not be wise to mix and match springs? The Eibachs in place on the rear sit just right, but the front sits too low...low to the point where the front tires tuck under the fender. Perhaps H&R OEs on the front with Eibachs in the back would be a good fit. I know it's a waste of money, but I'm already stuck with boths sets and I figured what the heck.

SV Concepts III · 06-08-2009, 10:33 PM

I definitely don't recommend mixing and matching spring sets. This will make the car unstable between the front and rear and hard to predict.

320Devil · 06-08-2009, 10:57 PM

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Originally Posted by Nick@Jlevi SW

I definitely don't recommend mixing and matching spring sets. This will make the car unstable between the front and rear and hard to predict.

Yeah, I figured as much. Thanks for the quick reply.

wa128 · 06-09-2009, 03:19 PM

Gogud...any updates on your situation? Thanks.

Gogud · 06-10-2009, 02:50 AM

Nothing yet. Still waiting for replacement rears.

gatorfast · 06-10-2009, 12:50 PM

Im sure H&R will correct the problem. The same thing happened when the sport springs came out for my GTI a few years ago. The rear sat wayyy too high and H&R later updated the springs to correct the issue.

05-29-2009, 08:34 PM	#1
Gogud Private 15 Rep 86 Posts Drives: Join Date: Oct 2008 iTrader: (0)	Is anyone else using H&R OE springs? I'm having issues with the rear ride height. I'll elaborate after I get some sort of resolution. I just want to find out if others ended up somewhere close to what was advertised (approx. 1" drop front and rear).
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05-29-2009, 09:34 PM	#2
ulrichd Colonel 210 Rep 2,233 Posts Drives: 128i M-Sport Join Date: Jun 2007 Location: Houston, TX iTrader: (6)	I think you may be the first one since they were on backorder for so long. I finally caved and went with Eibach/Koni FSD.
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05-30-2009, 09:32 AM	#4
MastaMind I like beer 32 Rep 1,286 Posts Drives: AW 135 Join Date: Jul 2007 Location: Under Pressure iTrader: (0)	As Ulrichd said, not many people will have these because they were on back order for so long. If you post up the issue, maybe someone can chime in with a potential solution. Did you properly seat the springs in the rubber perches?
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05-30-2009, 10:48 AM	#5
135forthewin Lieutenant 48 Rep 546 Posts Drives: sideways Join Date: Oct 2008 Location: U.S. iTrader: (0)	I was just looking at purchasing a set of those yesterday, and found this: http://www.jlevistreetwerks.com/BMW-...sllll1ak1uq2l7 They say it lowers the front .75 inches and the rear .3 inches, which is a very tiny drop. Where did you see 1" front+rear? __________________ Legal Disclaimer: Anything I or anyone else says about my vehicle on this website(1addicts.com or any affiliated or nonaffiliated sites), pertaining to modifications, is only to gain acceptance from my/our peers, and does not actually represent anything actually existing on my car, and thus, cannot be held against me in any issues, i.e. warranty claims, that may arise.
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05-30-2009, 12:48 PM	#6
Gogud Private 15 Rep 86 Posts Drives: Join Date: Oct 2008 iTrader: (0)	http://www.hrsprings.com/scripts/app...Find3&MakeID=4 The specs come from H&R. The front has a tad more than 3/4" drop and the rear is stock height-- higher than stock on the left, and slightly lower on the right. The installation was done by a local German car specialist who I have expeience with. They do top notch work and they are the local Dynan dealer also. I had the rear wheels off to check it out and looked and put my fingers into the spring cups to check fit. I can't find anything amiss. There is a note (12) about lowering height variance with special factory sport suspensions. I have the BMW Performance suspension. I changed back to the stock rear shocks which puts everything in the rear as it comes stock from the factory, then drove around to settle everything and the result is no change. I didn't want to hash this whole thing out on the internet until the parties involved have had a shot at a resolution. I just wanted to see if others had a different outcome. Some people love controversy while others sincerely want to help. Help is appreciated, but please don't assume that bonehead mistakes were made. Ideas have already been tossed back and forth and I have photos of the setup.
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05-31-2009, 04:31 PM	#7
wa128 Second Lieutenant 18 Rep 214 Posts Drives: 2012 AW 135i DCT Join Date: Apr 2008 Location: wa state iTrader: (0)	Thanks for the info. I have heard that BMWs tend to sit higher on the left. The driver's weight will then more or less balance the car side to side. If the left versus right difference is just a few millimeters that might be why. Try having the shop do a measure with you in the car. __________________ 2012 135i \| AW on Blk \| 7DCT \| M-Sport + Premium \| Nav \| Harmon Kardon \| BMW Performance Exhaust & Kidney Grilles
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05-31-2009, 08:41 PM	#8
ulrichd Colonel 210 Rep 2,233 Posts Drives: 128i M-Sport Join Date: Jun 2007 Location: Houston, TX iTrader: (6)	The claimed drops are all over the place. My Eibach Pro kit is supposed to lower 1 1/4", I am currently at 5/8" to 3/4". I don't mind actually the car looks great but maybe its different for a 128 with sport suspension. I noticed the spring serial numbers are different from the 135.
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05-31-2009, 08:44 PM	#9
ulrichd Colonel 210 Rep 2,233 Posts Drives: 128i M-Sport Join Date: Jun 2007 Location: Houston, TX iTrader: (6)	As stated above this is a 3/4" drop which is about perfect with the standard wheel/tire combo. Oh and I have 5mm spacers all around. Attached Images
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05-31-2009, 09:10 PM	#10
Berduderunner drk one 38 Rep 797 Posts Drives: 2008 135i Join Date: Dec 2007 Location: Tampa/Orlando iTrader: (0) Garage List 2008 e90 335i [0.00] 2008 135i [0.00]	I received my OE's a week ago, just waiting to install them when i get back home. Keep us updated PLZ! __________________ Jet Black \| Coral \| HighGlossBlack \| Steptronic \| Premium \| Sport \| Comfort \| ActiveSteering \| Navi \| HiFi \| HD \| iPod \| SAT BMS JB3 v2.0 \| BMS DCI \| Berk Tech Sport Exhaust \| UR * DPs \| CoolingMist Meth Kit w/ CMGS \| H&R OE Sport Springs \| Breyton GTS-R \| Dunlop Direzza Sport Z1 Star Specs \| GP Thunder 8000K Low Beams/Angel Eyes/Cornering Lights \| LED Interior Light Kit \| Window Tint \| Smoked Tail Lights \| Smoked License Plate Cover
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06-03-2009, 06:46 PM	#12
Gogud Private 15 Rep 86 Posts Drives: Join Date: Oct 2008 iTrader: (0)	It is strange how the photos seem to make the difference minimal. In person it certainly is not. News is that there may be replacement rears available. I'll know more later. Attached Images Last edited by Gogud; 06-03-2009 at 07:17 PM.. Reason: late news makes post inaccurate
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06-03-2009, 09:35 PM	#13
FORCED AIR Got Boost? 7 Rep 234 Posts Drives: 2010 135i, Msport Join Date: May 2009 Location: The Desert iTrader: (1)	Looks like a big difference to me.... __________________ - - My Car Domain - - 2010 BMW 135i AT, AW, ///M Sport JB4\|BMS DCI\|MS 3" cattless DPs\|Golf Tee\|33% Tint\|///M Pedals
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06-03-2009, 11:06 PM	#14
fourtailpipes Major 111 Rep 1,338 Posts Drives: the ladies crazy Join Date: Dec 2008 Location: , Location, Location! iTrader: (0)	yea... i'd be unhappy. call tirerack and/or H&R if you're 100% certain that the install is correct. i'm still wishing there were a spring that lowered the rear more than the front. the car is already raked out from the factory. i dont want any more rake!!!
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06-04-2009, 12:42 PM	#15
SV Concepts III Lieutenant General 375 Rep 17,017 Posts Drives: BMW Duh Join Date: Apr 2005 Location: Santa Clara iTrader: (13)	H&R springs tend to have a rake whether you go with the Sports, Race or OE. The OE is their least aggressive spring so you cannot expect too much of a drop. If you are looking for lower, I suggest the Sport springs.
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06-04-2009, 01:31 PM	#16
fourtailpipes Major 111 Rep 1,338 Posts Drives: the ladies crazy Join Date: Dec 2008 Location: , Location, Location! iTrader: (0)	the problem i see is that they advertize a 1" drop front and rear (or is that just tirerack, not H&R?), when it appears that there's a large front drop, and little to no rear drop. the rake is fine for people who are looking for that, but i almost ordered the OE springs yesterday after seeing them in stock at the tirerack, but then i saw this thread, and am glad i didn't! great timing! maybe performance springs are the way to go for me...
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06-08-2009, 09:29 PM	#17
320Devil Private First Class 3 Rep 132 Posts Drives: 08 135i, 17 X5M Join Date: Sep 2007 Location: Estero, FL iTrader: (0)	Gogud, Where did you hear that replacement springs might come available? I have a set of OEs sitting in my garage that I want to put on in place of my Eibach springs, but I think I'll wait this one out to see what you and others have to say. This is probably a dumb idea, but would it not be wise to mix and match springs? The Eibachs in place on the rear sit just right, but the front sits too low...low to the point where the front tires tuck under the fender. Perhaps H&R OEs on the front with Eibachs in the back would be a good fit. I know it's a waste of money, but I'm already stuck with boths sets and I figured what the heck.
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06-08-2009, 10:33 PM	#18
SV Concepts III Lieutenant General 375 Rep 17,017 Posts Drives: BMW Duh Join Date: Apr 2005 Location: Santa Clara iTrader: (13)	I definitely don't recommend mixing and matching spring sets. This will make the car unstable between the front and rear and hard to predict.
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06-09-2009, 03:19 PM	#20
wa128 Second Lieutenant 18 Rep 214 Posts Drives: 2012 AW 135i DCT Join Date: Apr 2008 Location: wa state iTrader: (0)	Gogud...any updates on your situation? Thanks. __________________ 2012 135i \| AW on Blk \| 7DCT \| M-Sport + Premium \| Nav \| Harmon Kardon \| BMW Performance Exhaust & Kidney Grilles
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06-10-2009, 02:50 AM	#21
Gogud Private 15 Rep 86 Posts Drives: Join Date: Oct 2008 iTrader: (0)	Nothing yet. Still waiting for replacement rears.
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06-10-2009, 12:50 PM	#22
gatorfast Major General 4998 Rep 6,863 Posts Drives: 718 Cayman Join Date: Jan 2008 Location: SoFla iTrader: (4)	Im sure H&R will correct the problem. The same thing happened when the sport springs came out for my GTI a few years ago. The rear sat wayyy too high and H&R later updated the springs to correct the issue.
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