Tire Square Question

500AF · 08-16-2016, 11:23 AM

I have two sets of stock wheels for my 135i. Does anyone know if the I can square up the front using the extra rears I have with the 245 tires on them?

Thanks,

E82MSport · 08-16-2016, 02:31 PM

ET52 stock rears with 12mm spacers will fit the 245/35's. If you're lowered you might have fender clearance issues and need more camber or a fender roll.

1and1 · 08-16-2016, 03:39 PM

Which stock wheels do you have? I'm curious about the same thing...

lowbudgethero · 08-16-2016, 04:19 PM

I'd recommend 10mm spacers over 12, I found the 12's with 255s would rub really bad on the bumper tab. YMMV though depending on your tire brand and size.

spxxx · 08-17-2016, 12:48 AM

I run square M261 rims with ~265mm tires on all four sides with 7mm spacers up front - lowered with -2* camber up front.

500AF · 08-17-2016, 06:46 AM

Mine are the stock type 261 wheels with the M option. I am really curious how much more grip you guys get running the 245's up front.

Needless to say last year I slide off the road when the front washed out on a 90 degree turn. Not sure why bmw put a 215 up front.

Is it a noticeable difference in look out front?

spxx would love to see a picture of what yours looks like if you don't mind.

lowbudgethero · 08-17-2016, 05:50 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by 500AF

Mine are the stock type 261 wheels with the M option. I am really curious how much more grip you guys get running the 245's up front.

Needless to say last year I slide off the road when the front washed out on a 90 degree turn. Not sure why bmw put a 215 up front.

Is it a noticeable difference in look out front?

spxx would love to see a picture of what yours looks like if you don't mind.

the extra front grip completely changes the car

wjk_glynn · 08-17-2016, 11:18 PM

Here are details on my square 264 setup: http://www.1addicts.com/forums/showthread.php?t=1170959

Karl.

joeo · 08-20-2016, 11:50 PM

I'm running a square setup with 255/35 R18s on the 261 style wheels (2 sets of rears). I'm running 12mm spacers from turner motorsports up front, rolled front fenders, and shaved bumper tabs.
TC Kline DA kit with vorshlag camber plates. On track I rubbed a hole in the fuel filler plastic tube in the rear. Anyone else have that issue? As to solutions, I could put maybe a 5mm spacer on the rear, or perhaps some clever way of re-routing the fuel filler? Any ideas?
Thanks!

-Joe

dcaron9999 · 08-21-2016, 10:20 AM

Similar to Joeo -

Previous track setup, and now rain setup: I'm running a square setup with Dunlop Direzza ZII SS 255/35 R18s on "261 style" wheels (2 sets of rears), with 10mm spacers up front, rolled front fenders, and shaved bumper tabs.

New track setup: I'm running a square setup with Nitto NT-01 255/40 R17s on "68 style" wheels (2 sets of rears), with 10mm spacers up front.

joeo · 08-21-2016, 11:42 AM

I'm running Toyo R888s all around. dcaron9999 - did you have any issue with the fuel filler being rubbed in the rear? Are the 68 style rims from an E46 M3? Same offset as the 135i wheels?
Thanks.

-Joe

500AF · 08-22-2016, 09:32 AM

Does anyone know if I can fit 255's in the rear on the stock wheels without using spacers.

I got the spacers for the front 10mm and will be putting 245's in the front.

joeo · 08-22-2016, 09:45 AM

255/35 R18s fit fine on the rear with the stock suspension.

optigrab · 08-26-2016, 04:38 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by spxxx

I run square M261 rims with ~265mm tires on all four sides with 7mm spacers up front - lowered with -2* camber up front.

wow how much tire to strut clearance do you have?

I have less than a finger with 264 wheels 245 tires 12 mm spacer at stock height/ alignment

dtla1 · 08-26-2016, 05:12 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by spxxx

I run square M261 rims with ~265mm tires on all four sides with 7mm spacers up front - lowered with -2* camber up front.

What tires and Struts? I'm using Bilstein B8 and 245MPSS tires with 7MM spacers and the tire rubbed the paint off the strut.

spxxx · 08-26-2016, 07:40 PM

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Originally Posted by optigrab

Quote:

Originally Posted by spxxx

I run square M261 rims with ~265mm tires on all four sides with 7mm spacers up front - lowered with -2* camber up front.

wow how much tire to strut clearance do you have?

I have less than a finger with 264 wheels 245 tires 12 mm spacer at stock height/ alignment

Bilstein pss9 coils must be thin. I just installed Apex ET45/58 Arc-8 with 3mm spacer and 255/35/18 tires all around. No rub anywhere except full lock

500AF · 08-31-2016, 11:38 AM

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Originally Posted by joeo

255/35 R18s fit fine on the rear with the stock suspension.

I only got the 10 mm spacers for the front. I am assuming I don't need them for the rear and they wouldn't work anyway in the rear with stock suspension and 255 tires on the stock rear wheels.

Does anyone know if that is correct?

Ginger_Extract · 08-31-2016, 03:06 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by joeo

I'm running a square setup with 255/35 R18s on the 261 style wheels (2 sets of rears). I'm running 12mm spacers from turner motorsports up front, rolled front fenders, and shaved bumper tabs.
TC Kline DA kit with vorshlag camber plates. On track I rubbed a hole in the fuel filler plastic tube in the rear. Anyone else have that issue? As to solutions, I could put maybe a 5mm spacer on the rear, or perhaps some clever way of re-routing the fuel filler? Any ideas?
Thanks!

-Joe

Common issue. Had the same problem with 18x9.5 Apexes and a 255/35. Currently running 5mm spacer, for effective offset of 57 and it's fine. Will move to a lower offset wheel when I want to go wider than 255.

joeo · 08-31-2016, 08:10 PM

Thanks Ginger_Extract - I went with a 3mm spacer, and I'm going to slightly modify the filler pipe. That's my plan anyway.

-Joe

500AF · 10-07-2016, 07:52 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by wjk_glynn

Here are details on my square 264 setup: http://www.1addicts.com/forums/showthread.php?t=1170959

Karl.

Talk about threading the needle... I put the 245's up front and it is really close to the shock, about 3mm. I will post some pictures. Mine are the stock type 261 I believe. I got the 10mm offset like your setup.

brocklanders · 10-07-2016, 08:23 PM

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Originally Posted by dcaron9999

Similar to Joeo -

Previous track setup, and now rain setup: I'm running a square setup with Dunlop Direzza ZII SS 255/35 R18s on "261 style" wheels (2 sets of rears), with 10mm spacers up front, rolled front fenders, and shaved bumper tabs.

New track setup: I'm running a square setup with Nitto NT-01 255/40 R17s on "68 style" wheels (2 sets of rears), with 10mm spacers up front.

I'm on my second set of zII's, how would you say the Nitto's compare?

Ric in RVA · 10-07-2016, 08:59 PM

Could you run a set of rally or winter tires on 4 fronts???

08-16-2016, 11:23 AM	#1
500AF Private 15 Rep 89 Posts Drives: 2013 135 Join Date: Aug 2015 Location: Paris, VA iTrader: (0)	Tire Square Question I have two sets of stock wheels for my 135i. Does anyone know if the I can square up the front using the extra rears I have with the 245 tires on them? Thanks,
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08-16-2016, 02:31 PM	#2
E82MSport First Lieutenant 130 Rep 351 Posts Drives: 08' Crimson 135i Join Date: Sep 2013 Location: Rochester Hills - MI iTrader: (0)	ET52 stock rears with 12mm spacers will fit the 245/35's. If you're lowered you might have fender clearance issues and need more camber or a fender roll. __________________ Ohlins Road & Track Coilovers / Apex ARC 8's 245/255-35 MPSS / Wagner Downpipes / Wagner EVOII Intercooler / ER Charge Pipe / Forge DV / PowerFlex RSFB / PowerFlex Differential Bushings / MFactory 3.46 Torsion LSD / MHD Flasher
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1and1 Loves me some MHD! 1857 Rep 1,719 Posts Drives: faster than he should... Join Date: Jul 2016 Location: Tally, FL iTrader: (2) Garage List '09 135i [10.00]	Which stock wheels do you have? I'm curious about the same thing... __________________ 1and1 135i - E82.N54 2009 BSM - MHD / xHP / DCI, PR CP & 7.5" Race IC / N55 mid & Borla . . WL RSFI, Koni, Eibach & Dinan CP's, M3 CA's / EBC Red's & Firehawk 500's X1 - E84.N20 2013 MGM - JB4 - The Wife's, now with new turbo & ewg Last edited by 1and1; 08-17-2016 at 05:55 PM.. Reason: -thimg, +thing
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lowbudgethero Captain 125 Rep 750 Posts Drives: '98 Z3M (gone), '09 135i Join Date: Feb 2013 Location: 908 iTrader: (0) Garage List 2009 BMW 135i [8.50]	I'd recommend 10mm spacers over 12, I found the 12's with 255s would rub really bad on the bumper tab. YMMV though depending on your tire brand and size.
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08-17-2016, 12:48 AM	#5
spxxx Boost 1354 Rep 3,692 Posts Drives: 135i M-Sport Join Date: Feb 2014 Location: Valley of Silicon, CA - United States iTrader: (9)	I run square M261 rims with ~265mm tires on all four sides with 7mm spacers up front - lowered with -2* camber up front. __________________ F80 M3 TrackBoi, Z4MC GarageBoi, 1M Clone StreetBoi
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08-17-2016, 06:46 AM	#6
500AF Private 15 Rep 89 Posts Drives: 2013 135 Join Date: Aug 2015 Location: Paris, VA iTrader: (0)	Mine are the stock type 261 wheels with the M option. I am really curious how much more grip you guys get running the 245's up front. Needless to say last year I slide off the road when the front washed out on a 90 degree turn. Not sure why bmw put a 215 up front. Is it a noticeable difference in look out front? spxx would love to see a picture of what yours looks like if you don't mind.
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wjk_glynn Lieutenant 167 Rep 403 Posts Drives: 997.2 C2S Coupé Join Date: Apr 2013 Location: San Jose, CA iTrader: (0)	Here are details on my square 264 setup: http://www.1addicts.com/forums/showthread.php?t=1170959 Karl. __________________ Stock – 997.2 C2S Coupé • Carrara White / Cocoa • Adaptive Sports Seats • PDK w/SC • PSE Mods – Front 996-GT2 and Rear 997-Turbo Brake Ducts • 3rd (center) Coolant Radiator • 10mm/15mm Spacers
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08-20-2016, 11:50 PM	#9
joeo Lieutenant 120 Rep 475 Posts Drives: 2009 Crimson Red 135i Join Date: Mar 2008 Location: Sterling, Va iTrader: (0) Garage List 2009 BMM 135i [9.50]	I'm running a square setup with 255/35 R18s on the 261 style wheels (2 sets of rears). I'm running 12mm spacers from turner motorsports up front, rolled front fenders, and shaved bumper tabs. TC Kline DA kit with vorshlag camber plates. On track I rubbed a hole in the fuel filler plastic tube in the rear. Anyone else have that issue? As to solutions, I could put maybe a 5mm spacer on the rear, or perhaps some clever way of re-routing the fuel filler? Any ideas? Thanks! -Joe
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08-21-2016, 10:20 AM	#10
dcaron9999 Major 157 Rep 1,409 Posts Drives: 2011 135i M package Join Date: Jan 2010 Location: Mirabel, Quebec iTrader: (0)	Similar to Joeo - Previous track setup, and now rain setup: I'm running a square setup with Dunlop Direzza ZII SS 255/35 R18s on "261 style" wheels (2 sets of rears), with 10mm spacers up front, rolled front fenders, and shaved bumper tabs. New track setup: I'm running a square setup with Nitto NT-01 255/40 R17s on "68 style" wheels (2 sets of rears), with 10mm spacers up front. __________________ 2011 X3 35i with M pack + 2011 135i w/6SPMT \| 255 square tire setup \| Quaife 3.46 LSD \| Diff lock down bracket \| Bilstein B8+Swift SpecR springs+H&R FSB \| CDV delete \| BMS Oil Tstat bypass \| ER FMIC & CP \| N54Tuning DP \| GC Street Camber Plates \| M3 FCA +guide rods+RSFB's+Tranny mounts \| Manzo toe arms \| Cobb Stg2 agressive tune \| Hawk DTC70 brake pads \| RB SS brake pistons \| Goodridge SS brake lines \| Custom brake cooling ducts
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joeo Lieutenant 120 Rep 475 Posts Drives: 2009 Crimson Red 135i Join Date: Mar 2008 Location: Sterling, Va iTrader: (0) Garage List 2009 BMM 135i [9.50]	I'm running Toyo R888s all around. dcaron9999 - did you have any issue with the fuel filler being rubbed in the rear? Are the 68 style rims from an E46 M3? Same offset as the 135i wheels? Thanks. -Joe
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08-22-2016, 09:32 AM	#12
500AF Private 15 Rep 89 Posts Drives: 2013 135 Join Date: Aug 2015 Location: Paris, VA iTrader: (0)	Does anyone know if I can fit 255's in the rear on the stock wheels without using spacers. I got the spacers for the front 10mm and will be putting 245's in the front.
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08-22-2016, 09:45 AM	#13
joeo Lieutenant 120 Rep 475 Posts Drives: 2009 Crimson Red 135i Join Date: Mar 2008 Location: Sterling, Va iTrader: (0) Garage List 2009 BMM 135i [9.50]	255/35 R18s fit fine on the rear with the stock suspension.
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08-31-2016, 08:10 PM	#19
joeo Lieutenant 120 Rep 475 Posts Drives: 2009 Crimson Red 135i Join Date: Mar 2008 Location: Sterling, Va iTrader: (0) Garage List 2009 BMM 135i [9.50]	Thanks Ginger_Extract - I went with a 3mm spacer, and I'm going to slightly modify the filler pipe. That's my plan anyway. -Joe
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10-07-2016, 08:59 PM	#22
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