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      11-23-2008, 08:43 PM   #23
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don't even bother driving both because u'll end up buying the 135i.
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      11-23-2008, 08:45 PM   #24
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      11-23-2008, 08:53 PM   #25
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      11-23-2008, 09:09 PM   #26
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HAHAH, 10 yrs?? 2 yrs max for me, and I will have the new car paid for (probably with the help of the 6k that I saved and will invest). It is not about having the money, its about using the money for max benefit and returns, and buying those things you want and need. People in Florida won't buy heated seats, it doesn't make them cheap asses. If someone chooses to get the 128i instead of 135i because they need the turbos, so be it.

It's preference, I think anyone in the BMW doesn't really have a funding issue in terms of what to get.
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      11-24-2008, 10:18 AM   #27
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As for power - again, it's personal preference ...
As has been stated alot, it's simply a personal choice. For me, I made the mistake once of "settling" for a 2001 325 Ci vert (185HP). I went back and forth between it and the 330 Ci vert (225hp) before buying and my CA said something similar to your statement above. I am NOT a track type gear head, but I can tell you I regreted my decision for about 10 months till I traded it in for a 330 Ci and never looked back.
Well, then you made the wrong personal choice. You shouldn't "settle" with something like this - if you viewed the smaller engine as settling for less than what you really wanted you're obviously not going to be happy.

At least you learned something new about yourself and can make the right personal choice in the future. That's the trick really, knowing yourself well enough to make these decisions.

In my case I couldn't be happier with my 128 and if I had to go back and do it all over again I'd still select the exact same 128i. Why? Because I know what makes me happy and even as someone who does autocross their 1er, the 128i is perfect for me (heck, first time I took it out I was consistently beating a 335i around the course and that that driver had no less experience than I).

But, like I said the first time, it's personal preference. You simply have to know what will make you happy. What makes someone else happy doesn't mean a damn thing.
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      11-24-2008, 10:41 AM   #28
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Im looking to purchase either a 128i or 135i within the next few months....

If i select the 128i and add the Sports Package & Aero Kit, the MSRP goes up to about 33K....

If i get the 135i the Sports Package (i think) & Aero kit come standard and that MSRP is about 36K....


My question is aside from the Engine does the 135i come with anything else (standard) that the 128i doesnt in order to make up that 3K price difference? or are you just paying 3K extra for the engine?
Definitely test-drive both back to back, and spend at least 30 minutes in them.

The driving characteristics are a little different. The 128i, interestingly, felt a little sportier than the 135i. don't get me wrong -- the 135i's speed totally blows the doors off of most other cars on the road. But it feels a little less involving when it does it. The 128i feels a bit more involving.

I'm still on the fence between the two -- I need to do a back-to-back test drive. But the 128i is still a good sporty choice -- as long as you get the sport suspension. (I tried the 128 without the sport suspension, too, and wasn't very impressed with it.)
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      11-24-2008, 06:52 PM   #29
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Why did I get a thumbs down? I said your NOT an idiot for getting the 128i. And when I said "settled", I didn't realize at the time that's what I did. So I did learn something about myself.
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      11-24-2008, 07:52 PM   #30
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Im looking to purchase either a 128i or 135i within the next few months....

If i select the 128i and add the Sports Package & Aero Kit, the MSRP goes up to about 33K....

If i get the 135i the Sports Package (i think) & Aero kit come standard and that MSRP is about 36K....


My question is aside from the Engine does the 135i come with anything else (standard) that the 128i doesnt in order to make up that 3K price difference? or are you just paying 3K extra for the engine?
Let me see if I can answer your question, instead of getting into it about which is best... I guess most of you question has been answered, but here are more details. (these prices include destination charges with no charge paint options)

128i w/ sport package + xenon: $32125


128i w/ sport package + xenon + aero kit: $33600


135i w/ sport package: $37525
- additional over 128i: engine, M-sport steering wheel/shifter, 18" wheels, better stock tires, bigger brakes, subjectively better looking body work




So you are looking at $5200 without the aero kit on the 128i, which gets you the:
- 70 hp + tuning potential
- bigger brakes
- M-sport steering wheel/shifter
- bigger wheels, better stock tires
- body work

With the aero kit, you are looking at $3925 difference minus the installation of the aero kit (assuming you would not want that on the 135i).

You have decide if these are worth it to you. Hope this helps.
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      11-25-2008, 11:52 AM   #31
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Not that it's going to sway anyone either way, but don't forget that you actually get a benefit when you "step down" to the 128 - foglights.

I use mine pretty often on my other cars, and think that BMW's not thinking the right way on this issue. As I said, nothing big, but odd that you get more by spending less.

Another thing to think about is that you're eventually going aftermarket in areas like rims, sways, and shocks, stepping up to the 135 would be a waste of $$ (ignoring the bigger engine, of course).

As someone else has said, lining them up and doing back-to-back drives would be the best way to see if the add'l ponies are worth the $$, but just make sure you're looking at the whole picture.
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      04-24-2013, 01:17 PM   #32
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Well, I mean I am sure you have the MSRP and the Invoice numbers in front of you. I guess the aero kit is pretty expensive, I don't have the price sheets anymore. When I was purchasing my 128i vs 135i, I think there was like a 5k or 6k price difference between the two, but I didn't get the sport or aero. Now, 6k isn't a lot on a 30k+ car, but with my trade in and everything, the price I would have to pay to upgrade to the 128i was 11k (vs 17k for the 135i), and I figured that an extra 6k wasn't really worth it, since it was almost a 50% increase in cost...

That said, I'm not a high speed kind of person, so I really didn't need the 135i power, the sports package, and I don't like the aero look. To me, 11k vs 17k was a pretty big difference in how much I would really have to pay, especially for things I didn't really need. It also meant that I got to keep some money in the bank, and have it around to put into stocks at what seems like a low point in market (ha, or not).

Also, I've owned the car for 2 weeks now, and I have to say, I feel no remorse going with the 128i. I feel that the car has ample ample power. In fact, I feel it has way more than I need (coming from a 330xi), I can totally do scary things in it. I cringe to think what the 135i would have me doing, I feel I'm way too fast and aggressive already... :-D Definitely no regrets, but I have no plans to race on a track or go more than 10 mph above the speed limit (2 tickets is enough for now). And for passing people, this thing is way more than I need.

That said, I'm like an old man compared to most people my age (28) in how I drive... To me, the biggest satisfying factor when I look at the vehicle is to know what I paid, and what I actually use in terms of features and ability. So I guess I look at the car and am extremely happy with the price and value I feel it has. I know that if I had the 135i, since I don't really go fast or anything and it doesn't fit my personality, I would be asking myself why did I spend an extra 6k for things I don't need. I know at that point I'd talk myself into a 328xi because I feel there is more value at that price of having 4 doors, larger size, all wheel drive, and probably easier resale (larger sedan vs sports vehicle).

Just some food for thought. In the end, if you want something with uncompromised performance, get the 135i over the 128i, otherwise you might have some regrets, knowing that there is another model out there that has way more HP. Or, if you just want to get a car that is comfy, looks great, and kicks ass for a normal commute to work, the 128i will blow your mind.

I look forward to driving to work these days. You will to with either one.
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      04-24-2013, 01:29 PM   #33
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      04-24-2013, 02:07 PM   #34
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Just buy the 135I... if its about the money , buy one CPO that is one year old with a few miles... you will not regret it... trust me
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      04-24-2013, 02:10 PM   #35
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An d Id like to take this moment to laugh my ass off at OPs username...

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      04-24-2013, 02:20 PM   #36
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How many articles do you see praising the virtues of the 128i, not many. 135i however is loved by all! Both are great cars though, ones quick and the other is a rocket that can get you in trouble fast.

I don't regret my decision, always get home from work with a huge smile on my face.
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      04-24-2013, 02:35 PM   #37
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I know, since this isn't a sore enough subject let's pull up a 3 and 1/2 year old thread about it and relive it.
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      04-24-2013, 04:31 PM   #38
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The 128 stigma on this forum is disgusting. high horses are cool I guess though.
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      04-24-2013, 05:36 PM   #39
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How many articles do you see praising the virtues of the 128i, not many. 135i however is loved by all! Both are great cars though, ones quick and the other is a rocket that can get you in trouble fast.

I don't regret my decision, always get home from work with a huge smile on my face.
There are quite a few articles discussing the 128i and how it is the best thing to come out of BMW in years. Mike Miller(head of tech talk in Roundel and possibly the most knowledgable person on the mechanicals of BMWs) called it the modern 2002 and the perfect drivers car.

Pretty high complements from a guy who similarly hates most modern BMWs.

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My dad actually has an E90 328i which I have driven extensively. Getting into it after driving my 135i, it feels underpowered around town, and especially in passing maneuvers, until I get used to taking the engine to higher revs and generally driving it harder. Once I get used to that, then power is adequate for most normal driving. And remember the 3-series is much heavier. The naturally aspirated engine is actually pretty nice and fun to drive in normal situations.

The thing I like least about it is not the engine, but the automatic gearbox (if you were thinking of going that direction). DCT in the 135i is way better if you like using the shift paddles, at least compared to the 2010 E90 328i gearbox.

Anyway, I would take a drive of both cars. The 128i is totally fine, but I love having the extra power. Especially the extra torque, which you can indeed use everyday.
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      04-24-2013, 07:46 PM   #41
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Who owns a car for 10 years these days?
That would be my wife and her 2001 530i. Gotta say I drove the 128 and the 135 and bought the 128. Absolutely no regrets. Drove a 135 six months later and I still made the best choice for me and my needs. Two years in and the only visits to the dealer were for scheduled maintenance - no failures or repairs on the 128 after 26 months and 29,000 miles. Rock solid car!!!
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      04-24-2013, 08:11 PM   #42
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When I was shopping last fall I drove a new 128, with the M package and Navi. I ultimately chose a used 135 (it was $8k less...), but I really, really liked the 128. It's probably a more balanced car overall. It's apples and oranges, people -neither is a bad choice.
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      04-24-2013, 09:33 PM   #43
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Ill be honest and the first one to say it. There are really THREE choices for the 1 series...the 128 auto, the 128 manual, and the 135 (auto or manual)...

the 128 gets a bad rap because 90%+ are autos, and lets face it, you're not going to get close to experiencing what the 128 really was designed to be...sorry but its true

then there is the 128 manual...THIS is what all the hype about! the 128 manual is an amazingly balanced and fantastic almost perfect driving bmw with LOTS of instant on tap power, high reving engine with a perfect gearbox.

then there is the 135...which has gobs of torque and is all about power and engine, which isnt a bad thing

so lets stop this 128 vs 135 argument and call it for what it is! get behind the seat of a 128 with manual and you will see the choice between 128 and 135 becomes much harder. i made my decision, it was easy

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      04-25-2013, 12:15 AM   #44
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I wanted another vert. Drove the 128i vert. Maybe it was the extra weight and that it was a auto but it seemed underpowered. For me it was between 2 cars. 370z vert or the 135i vert. Ultimately I chose the 135i vert for a few reasons. 1) BMWs .9 financing. 2)Many more 135i verts available. 3)I didn't do my homework on how many issues the 135i has or cost to maintain over the 370z. I love the car but if I was looking to get a 200 hp car the 1 series would not be my first choice based on its looks and price. I would probably look at a BRZ or another GTI.


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