New intake from Britalman, ***DYNO NUMBERS INSIDE***

Ryan@Motorwerks · 04-24-2006, 05:31 PM

I would recommend NOT buying this intake. Dynoing the car with the hood up is not appropriate when trying to show the effect of a new intake. The intake is able to take cool air from the outside rather than taking the air that comes from inside the heat shield. This means that a bad heat shield design will not hurt the hp gain like it should , rather it is just showing how well the air flows through the filter v. Stock flow. That looks like the worst heat shield I have ever seen and there is no way that it could possibly be as effective as the stock airbox. And since when does a 325 make its peak hp at 5000 rpm???? Please explain why that is otherwise that dyno sheet is completely discredited. And those torque numbers are ridiculous as well. I think you should be selling this to e90fanatics, not us.

diesel007 · 04-24-2006, 05:59 PM

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Originally Posted by 335e90

I would recommend NOT buying this intake. Dynoing the car with the hood up is not appropriate when trying to show the effect of a new intake. The intake is able to take cool air from the outside rather than taking the air that comes from inside the heat shield. This means that a bad heat shield design will not hurt the hp gain like it should , rather it is just showing how well the air flows through the filter v. Stock flow. That looks like the worst heat shield I have ever seen and there is no way that it could possibly be as effective as the stock airbox. And since when does a 325 make its peak hp at 5000 rpm???? Please explain why that is otherwise that dyno sheet is completely discredited. And those torque numbers are ridiculous as well. I think you should be selling this to e90fanatics, not us.

Like I said I am not selling anything. Why so much hate bro you don’t even own an e90 and you asking ME to post on a different forum.

As stated before both runs were with the hood open stock and intake. I am just posting the results sorry if you don't like the numbers...

aapriadi · 04-24-2006, 06:27 PM

man, for all the haters out there grow up will ya

diesel already made his point, if u think its BS then dont buy it..if u think this stuff is crappy, then buy it and prove it to all of us..u do that and i'm definitely behind u

oh and one more comment: fighting over the internet is like competing in a special olympics, even if u win u're still retarded :finger:

aapriadi · 04-24-2006, 06:28 PM

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Originally Posted by diesel007

Like I said I am not selling anything. Why so much hate bro you don’t even own an e90 and you asking ME to post on a different forum.

As stated before both runs were with the hood open stock and intake. I am just posting the results sorry if you don't like the numbers...

bro u got my back on this one, chill out..too many haters nowadays

diesel007 · 04-24-2006, 06:41 PM

It's cool I knew some members would not be receptive to things like this.

BzsBimmer · 04-24-2006, 06:45 PM

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Originally Posted by 335e90

I think you should be selling this to e90fanatics, not us.

Hey
What's wrong with e90fanatics?
I'm actually a member there too

aapriadi · 04-24-2006, 07:05 PM

diesel the first pic u posted has no heat shield i think, or is it supposed to look like that? could u please give me an update thanks

shragon · 04-24-2006, 07:07 PM

i don't mean any disrespect to you. i actually really like your car and the awesome pics you take! just trying to have an intelligent and rational discussion here. i do agree with 335e90, that with the hood up, the numbers are going to unrealistic and do nothing to show if the actual heat shield design works, which is very important. if britalman, creative, or yourself are trying to claim those dyno numbers from a 325i are good (especially the torque), imho that's really misleading.

diesel007 · 04-24-2006, 07:11 PM

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Originally Posted by aapriadi

diesel the first pic u posted has no heat shield i think, or is it supposed to look like that? could u please give me an update thanks

The heat shield is to the side if the filter.

aapriadi · 04-24-2006, 07:18 PM

ah my eyes are failing me, thanks bro

diesel007 · 04-24-2006, 07:27 PM

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Originally Posted by shragon

i don't mean any disrespect to you. i actually really like your car and the awesome pics you take! just trying to have an intelligent and rational discussion here. i do agree with 335e90, that with the hood up, the numbers are going to unrealistic and do nothing to show if the actual heat shield design works, which is very important. if britalman, creative, or yourself are trying to claim those dyno numbers from a 325i are good (especially the torque), imho that's really misleading.

What can I say bro. I am not trying to mislead anyone, just reporting the results. I haven’t seen any dyno numbers or results from you guys so...

Ryan@Motorwerks · 04-24-2006, 07:29 PM

If thats a legit dyno then it shouldn't be hard for you to explain why peak hp occurs at 5000. Please enlighten us.

timzerofive · 04-24-2006, 07:36 PM

I think one main thing everyone have to consider before thinking about purchasing these intake/cat back system is that the dyno numbers are not always what they seem in real world. I'm not saying this to just be telling people not to buy this intake, but at least give some info I've learned so everyone can be more informed and make a better decision. Dyno numbers produced within a dyno room under "simulated" conditions are very inacurrate. Not saying what you're seeing on that dyno chart is not real, but the fact is cars react differently when running on the road and just spinning tires in a dyno room. The "increase" could just be an increase you get when your car is sitting on a dyno, but when you're running out on the road, there might not be any type of increase at all. Also, a lot of these ram-air type intakes might end up sucking in more hot air then a regular airbox. You really should think twice and research even more times if you want to buy an intake for performance gain.

diesel007 · 04-24-2006, 07:44 PM

Haters.

BitStream · 04-24-2006, 08:08 PM

jeez ...

people go through the headache of buying a new part, taking photos, dynoing the car, preparing the entire thing and get a kick in the balls to boot?

Diesel thanks for the info! I'm sure that comes from all the members and not just myself

Carnage · 04-24-2006, 08:35 PM

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Originally Posted by diesel007

Haters.

I second that comment.

Carnage · 04-24-2006, 08:38 PM

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Originally Posted by 335e90

If thats a legit dyno then it shouldn't be hard for you to explain why peak hp occurs at 5000. Please enlighten us.

What RPM's does the HP on your E90 peak at? Oh, that's right you don't know because you don't fucking have one. Quit reading the spec sheets, get a job and go buy one so you can enlight us with your real-world experience.

Ryan@Motorwerks · 04-24-2006, 08:42 PM

hahaha you are so funny and mature. Are you arguing that the E90 does in fact have peak HP occur at 5000 RRM??? Maybe thats why you've been losing to IS250's.....

Carnage · 04-24-2006, 08:43 PM

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Originally Posted by 335e90

hahaha you are so funny and mature. Are you arguing that the E90 does in fact have peak HP occur at 5000 RRM??? Maybe thats why you've been losing to IS250's.....

All I know is I'm not waiting for shit.

Ryan@Motorwerks · 04-24-2006, 08:44 PM

Oh yeah, and quit trying to defend the intake without using legitiment arguements, but please use them if you have any(doubtful). You're just pissed off because you probably have ordered one. Right?

Ryan@Motorwerks · 04-24-2006, 08:45 PM

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Originally Posted by matsarge

All I know is I'm not waiting for shit.

Yes that is in fact ALL YOU KNOW

Carnage · 04-24-2006, 08:46 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by 335e90

Yes that is in fact ALL YOU KNOW

BTW, nice use of punctuation and grammar. Do you type with one hand down your pants?

04-24-2006, 05:31 PM	#45
Ryan@Motorwerks Captain 48 Rep 963 Posts Drives: X3M Join Date: Oct 2005 Location: Houston, TX iTrader: (0)	I would recommend NOT buying this intake. Dynoing the car with the hood up is not appropriate when trying to show the effect of a new intake. The intake is able to take cool air from the outside rather than taking the air that comes from inside the heat shield. This means that a bad heat shield design will not hurt the hp gain like it should , rather it is just showing how well the air flows through the filter v. Stock flow. That looks like the worst heat shield I have ever seen and there is no way that it could possibly be as effective as the stock airbox. And since when does a 325 make its peak hp at 5000 rpm???? Please explain why that is otherwise that dyno sheet is completely discredited. And those torque numbers are ridiculous as well. I think you should be selling this to e90fanatics, not us.
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04-24-2006, 06:27 PM	#47
aapriadi Colonel 189 Rep 2,068 Posts Drives: '13 F30 AW 320i Join Date: Aug 2005 Location: Jakarta, Indonesia iTrader: (10)	man, for all the haters out there grow up will ya diesel already made his point, if u think its BS then dont buy it..if u think this stuff is crappy, then buy it and prove it to all of us..u do that and i'm definitely behind u oh and one more comment: fighting over the internet is like competing in a special olympics, even if u win u're still retarded :finger:
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04-24-2006, 06:41 PM	#49
diesel007 Not Stock 160 Rep 2,774 Posts Drives: 325I Join Date: Dec 2005 Location: San Diego iTrader: (4) Garage List 2006 325 [0.00]	It's cool I knew some members would not be receptive to things like this. __________________ *Wallpaper of the month* 1/1/072/1/07
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aapriadi Colonel 189 Rep 2,068 Posts Drives: '13 F30 AW 320i Join Date: Aug 2005 Location: Jakarta, Indonesia iTrader: (10)	diesel the first pic u posted has no heat shield i think, or is it supposed to look like that? could u please give me an update thanks
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04-24-2006, 07:07 PM	#52
shragon Moderator 497 Rep 27,441 Posts Drives: BMW Join Date: Oct 2005 Location: Bay Area, CA iTrader: (7)	i don't mean any disrespect to you. i actually really like your car and the awesome pics you take! just trying to have an intelligent and rational discussion here. i do agree with 335e90, that with the hood up, the numbers are going to unrealistic and do nothing to show if the actual heat shield design works, which is very important. if britalman, creative, or yourself are trying to claim those dyno numbers from a 325i are good (especially the torque), imho that's really misleading. __________________ www.cardomain.com/id/shragon
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aapriadi Colonel 189 Rep 2,068 Posts Drives: '13 F30 AW 320i Join Date: Aug 2005 Location: Jakarta, Indonesia iTrader: (10)	ah my eyes are failing me, thanks bro
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04-24-2006, 07:29 PM	#56
Ryan@Motorwerks Captain 48 Rep 963 Posts Drives: X3M Join Date: Oct 2005 Location: Houston, TX iTrader: (0)	If thats a legit dyno then it shouldn't be hard for you to explain why peak hp occurs at 5000. Please enlighten us.
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04-24-2006, 07:36 PM	#57
timzerofive there is no spoon 243 Rep 867 Posts Drives: 330i manual Join Date: May 2005 Location: Irvine iTrader: (0) Garage List 2006 330i [0.00]	I think one main thing everyone have to consider before thinking about purchasing these intake/cat back system is that the dyno numbers are not always what they seem in real world. I'm not saying this to just be telling people not to buy this intake, but at least give some info I've learned so everyone can be more informed and make a better decision. Dyno numbers produced within a dyno room under "simulated" conditions are very inacurrate. Not saying what you're seeing on that dyno chart is not real, but the fact is cars react differently when running on the road and just spinning tires in a dyno room. The "increase" could just be an increase you get when your car is sitting on a dyno, but when you're running out on the road, there might not be any type of increase at all. Also, a lot of these ram-air type intakes might end up sucking in more hot air then a regular airbox. You really should think twice and research even more times if you want to buy an intake for performance gain. __________________ [SIGPIC][/SIGPIC]
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04-24-2006, 07:44 PM	#58
diesel007 Not Stock 160 Rep 2,774 Posts Drives: 325I Join Date: Dec 2005 Location: San Diego iTrader: (4) Garage List 2006 325 [0.00]	Haters. __________________ *Wallpaper of the month* 1/1/072/1/07
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04-24-2006, 08:08 PM	#59
BitStream First Lieutenant 36 Rep 344 Posts Drives: 2006 330i Join Date: Nov 2005 Location: New Jersey, US iTrader: (1) Garage List 2006 330i [0.00]	jeez ... people go through the headache of buying a new part, taking photos, dynoing the car, preparing the entire thing and get a kick in the balls to boot? Diesel thanks for the info! I'm sure that comes from all the members and not just myself
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04-24-2006, 08:42 PM	#62
Ryan@Motorwerks Captain 48 Rep 963 Posts Drives: X3M Join Date: Oct 2005 Location: Houston, TX iTrader: (0)	hahaha you are so funny and mature. Are you arguing that the E90 does in fact have peak HP occur at 5000 RRM??? Maybe thats why you've been losing to IS250's.....
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04-24-2006, 08:44 PM	#64
Ryan@Motorwerks Captain 48 Rep 963 Posts Drives: X3M Join Date: Oct 2005 Location: Houston, TX iTrader: (0)	Oh yeah, and quit trying to defend the intake without using legitiment arguements, but please use them if you have any(doubtful). You're just pissed off because you probably have ordered one. Right?
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