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      10-12-2012, 04:25 PM   #23
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I suspect KrisM3 meant the side bolsters which are part of the Sprt Package, not lumbar.

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      10-12-2012, 04:42 PM   #24
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I have the power seats and like them, but I actually prefer manual seats. They're easy to adjust and there's less to go wrong. The memory function is kind of a 1 trick pony IMHO. If you're the only driver, once you get your seat adjusted it pretty much stays there except for back and forth but that's no biggy. The only thing about the power seats that has come in really handy is the push button at the top of the side of the seat to move the seat forward for easier access to the rear when you're outside the car. That has been a real boon getting a baby in and out of the back.
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I have the M-Sport package, manual leather seats.


The only time they are annoying is when a mechanic adjusts every possible aspect of the damn seat to drive my car 15ft into the garage. I actually watched them do it once, hit every lever except the one that moves the seat up. Took me 30 minutes to get it back to the way I like it.


So true and annoying!!!
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The only stupid thing is nobody understands the seat's shoulder lever to slide the seat forward, they ALWAYS bend down and pull the seat height lever, and with nobody in the seat it springs up about 8 inches and screws up the whole seat position.
Dude this was the case in my GTI as well, everyone always pulls the height lever with the shoulder lever sitting right in front of them. This shoots the seat up like 7-8 inches and just creates a cluster fuk. I seldom ride with someone so its not that big of an issue but can be frustrating at times.
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      10-16-2012, 08:49 AM   #27
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Manual M seats. Non leather. All M sport seats come with the lateral wing adjustments but with out lumbar support adjustment.
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      10-16-2012, 09:42 AM   #28
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Am I the only one with manual seats in a 2011 135i M-Sport?

I just haven't seen this combination anywhere else before.
As someone who was looking for a 135i for at least a month recently, I can tell you that way more 135i's than I would have expected do NOT have power seats.

I had BMWs manual seats on my stripper 2004 E46 M3 back in the day and couldn't stand them. Maybe it was just the different seat, but I could never get them dialed where I wanted them. Looking for a 135i that didn't have them eliminated close to half of my market.

Compare that to the 3 series, where almost ALL of them have power seats (premium package).

I found this to be true of a lot of options on the 135i, tbh. Comfort access, nav, and upgraded stereo were others that, again, I found tough to find on 135s, but are very common on 335s. I guess a lot of folks bought them pretty stripped on account of a more "drivers" car. Makes sense from that perspective.

With regard to those getting the M sport and not the premium, I'm not sure. The M sport package isn't that common in its own right, from my experience. Probably because it gives you less over the sport package (or at least, less noticeable features) than with the 3. Considering the sports package already gets you the M wheel, and the M sport package doesn't really affect the exterior hardly at all except the wheels - and those are a somewhat questionable improvement over the style 264s, IMO. The biggest attraction to the M sport package to me is really the headliner. I know it sounds trite, but I gotta have that "black" headliner.
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I spec'd mine without power seats. Had manual seats in my ///M3 and they were great. Didn't think it was necessary to pay the premium for motors and electronics that I'd seldom use and could fail down the road. That, and I bought the car for the driving experience, not for the luxury factor. That said, it takes me forever to get my seating position right again after someone screws it up.
thats exactly why I was looking for manual seats in my search(even though it took 20 minutes to get comfortable for my test drives)...I finally found the perfect car with leather and manual seats...power seats just add weight anyways...plus the manual are quicker getting people in and out of the back
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The only time they are annoying is when a mechanic adjusts every possible aspect of the damn seat to drive my car 15ft into the garage. I actually watched them do it once, hit every lever except the one that moves the seat up. Took me 30 minutes to get it back to the way I like it.
+1,000!


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P.S. I have manual seats in the 1M.
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Am I the only person who finds the side bolsters too narrow, even when fully deflated?
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How much more does the power seat weight?
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      10-31-2012, 04:39 PM   #33
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You mean the power lumbar right? The air bag that pumps up. ?

I also have manual seats with this lumbar support. I love my simple seats. Almost every car I see has power seats, except for my fellow euro 1er friends.
lumbar is only the back I thought, and the inflatible side bolsters are labelled separately?


why would any of you order an expensive BMW with cloth seats over leather?!
You're probably the type of person to get halogens over xenons!

go buy a hyundai and get it over with >_<

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Am I the only person who finds the side bolsters too narrow, even when fully deflated?
yes, fully deflated, there's no problem fitting a 120kg+ person.

6' and 80kg here, 30-50% inflated is perfect


Here in australia the 135i and 130i only came with M-sport pack, and i'm 99% sure they all only came with power seats, you have to OPTION manual seats, if they were at all available.

I love my powered seats, but i'll get recaros sooner or later, power leather seats weigh 50lb or something?
Recaros inc rails probably half that, and lower.


also, the lumbar support is SHIT anyway, no matter how stick-outy or up or down or any setting for it, it only ever caused back pain for me.. i fully retract it.

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How much more does the power seat weight?
They are about 60 lbs
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      10-31-2012, 05:28 PM   #35
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My car is a 2010, US spec 135i. I did not order the lumbar support. I ordered a car with manual seats and it came with that. There is a little dip switch at the drivers front corner of the seat that inflates or deflates the lumbar cushion for your back.
As has been pointed out, you are talking about the side bolster NOT lumbar support.

The seperate lumbar support inflator is in the back rest and is operated by a four way switch on the side of the seat which looks like this

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As has been pointed out, you are talking about the side bolster NOT lumbar support.
+1. Yup.
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