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      02-02-2015, 08:41 AM   #1
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Will the M2 be as rare and valuable as the 1M?

The 1M would have been an incredible buy at MSRP or even above when it first came out seeing as how they have held their value so well. Does anyone know if the M2 will be anywhere near as rare?
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      02-02-2015, 08:59 AM   #2
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The 1M would have been an incredible buy at MSRP or even above when it first came out seeing as how they have held their value so well. Does anyone know if the M2 will be anywhere near as rare?
The M2 is going to be a standard production car. it won't be rare at all....it will be just like any other M car; less in numbers than standard 2-series, but not 'rare' in any way. It should depreciate like any other M car, IMO.

non-limited M cars seem to still hold their value pretty well, but it won't be like the 1M was. The 1M was instantly selling for huge markups and never really came back down.
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      02-02-2015, 10:56 AM   #3
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The 1M would have been an incredible buy at MSRP or even above when it first came out seeing as how they have held their value so well. Does anyone know if the M2 will be anywhere near as rare?
The M2 is going to be a standard production car. it won't be rare at all....it will be just like any other M car; less in numbers than standard 2-series, but not 'rare' in any way. It should depreciate like any other M car, IMO.

non-limited M cars seem to still hold their value pretty well, but it won't be like the 1M was. The 1M was instantly selling for huge markups and never really came back down.
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      02-02-2015, 11:44 AM   #4
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I think IEDEI is probably right, but that brings up a question. How many will they actually sell? We know they wont cap production, and BMW will certainly move more units than 740. But how many people are really interested in a car like this? Chances are it will be a fantastic car, but I think the answer to my question depends on how they price the thing. There will be some competition in the price range, not the least of which is the gt350!
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      02-02-2015, 12:41 PM   #5
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I don't think production will be limited considering the timing of the launching of the M2 and the lifecycle of the current 2 series. is a relatively new model.

owning a 1M I just no longer see the point of buying a 4 seats sport car. I might have used the backseat 3 times in 3 years. I think this applies for the majority of 1M owners.

leaving brand loyalty aside, I would definitely prefer to buy a cayman S as opposed to buy a M2. also the market value would be higher on the porsche than the M2.
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      02-02-2015, 12:51 PM   #6
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No it won't be rare. At least a 7 year run with slight model and option changes along the way. If they happen to release a limited Lightweight or other they would be Rare but don't count on it.
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from Oz perspective, we were allocated 302 1Ms and resale values have plummeted over the last 12 months - circa 70% of new. If M2 sales are to reflect our slow adoption of the 2 series and pricing for M3/M4/M2 reflective of 3/4/2 series, M2s may well be rarer than 1Ms
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Unfortunately for 1M owners, I think the M2 will fill the same niche, unlike the M3/4, and will cause a correction in the market price. i.e. 1M values will come down to a more reasonable value rather than the overinflated prices they are at now.
Don't get me wrong, the 1M is truly special, and a one-of-a-kind, but it won't hold value when the M2 comes out IF they do the M2 right (which would be to make it a raw street hooligan like the 1M, rather than just a smaller version of the overly refined M3/4).
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from Oz perspective, we were allocated 302 1Ms and resale values have plummeted over the last 12 months - circa 70% of new. If M2 sales are to reflect our slow adoption of the 2 series and pricing for M3/M4/M2 reflective of 3/4/2 series, M2s may well be rarer than 1Ms
I would consider Australia an anomaly when it comes to 1M pricing then....everywhere else they are the same, have fallen minimally, or have even gone up. I think your country is sort of an anomaly at this point. I can assure you M2s will never be rarer than the 1M....because their production run will probably last 4+ years at least and without limitations. The 1M was an 'experiment'....the M2 is not an experiment!!
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      02-02-2015, 07:16 PM   #10
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I predict they will sell more M2 compared to M3/M4
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I would consider Australia an anomaly when it comes to 1M pricing then....everywhere else they are the same, have fallen minimally, or have even gone up. I think your country is sort of an anomaly at this point. I can assure you M2s will never be rarer than the 1M....because their production run will probably last 4+ years at least and without limitations. The 1M was an 'experiment'....the M2 is not an experiment!!
deep down, I too believe M2 sales would exceed 302 but as you have pointed out, we are a strange car market. We did not and do not see a lot of 1ers on the road and F22s even less. I live, work and drive everyday in Sydney and have only seen one other 2er on road since launch, 2 others at meets. Other than its launch, the 2 series has had no promotional stuff here. It has all been 3/4/X series. M2 should be priced closer to the M3/M4s than the CLA45s, A45s, S3s etc... significantly more than the latter cars. Cayman GTS for example is priced around M3/M4s so M2 has stiff competition. It would be interesting to see how M2 unfolds here.

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The 1M would have been an incredible buy at MSRP or even above when it first came out seeing as how they have held their value so well. Does anyone know if the M2 will be anywhere near as rare?
The M2 is going to be a standard production car. it won't be rare at all....it will be just like any other M car; less in numbers than standard 2-series, but not 'rare' in any way. It should depreciate like any other M car, IMO.

non-limited M cars seem to still hold their value pretty well, but it won't be like the 1M was. The 1M was instantly selling for huge markups and never really came back down.
This is how I see it playing
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      02-03-2015, 09:20 AM   #13
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Honestly, there aren't any 1Ms to go around, those who missed the boat wants a new similar car at around the same price, the M2 is the answer. It will be price be an affordable entry level performance M car. 1M will still hold its market value because its still in demand.
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so keep the 1M?
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The 1M would have been an incredible buy at MSRP or even above when it first came out seeing as how they have held their value so well. Does anyone know if the M2 will be anywhere near as rare?
No. Never ever.
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so keep the 1M?
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Well, I kept the 1M, coming form a E46 M3 and an E92 M3, this is bij far the best Bimmer I`ve driven.

And bought a Cayman GTS too, just awesome.

I`m just in love with both of them, an M2 is very tempting also, I have to arrange some extra parking space I guess

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Well, I kept the 1M, coming form a E46 M3 and an E92 M3, this is bij far the best Bimmer I`ve driven.

And bought a Cayman GTS too, just awesome.

I`m just in love with both of them, an M2 is very tempting also, I have to arrange some extra parking space I guess
Beautiful combo you got there. I'm looking into a Cayman GT4 when it comes out to compliment the 1M also. Just like you, the M2 does look very tempting to try but I doubt its something I want to own for the long run. Maybe switch cars for a week with a close M2 owner when it comes out. To tackle the parking problem, I've decided to start stacking them like legos.

The MZ3 and 1M stays...for life.
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The 1M is definitely a keeper and rare. I don't think the same for the M2.
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      02-07-2015, 03:08 AM   #20
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The 1M is so rare that last week I took my car in for service and the GM came out and offer me to buy my car for himself and give me nice discount on a new M3
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Well, I kept the 1M, coming form a E46 M3 and an E92 M3, this is bij far the best Bimmer I`ve driven.

And bought a Cayman GTS too, just awesome.

I`m just in love with both of them, an M2 is very tempting also, I have to arrange some extra parking space I guess

wow nice collection,




SO GUYS? DECISION MADE?
1M FTW?
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1M ALL THE WAY recently i got my 1m delivered here in Kuwait. i bought this car from a friend in the region very low mileage 4000KM only i feel really happy, thank god
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