Reasons why the 128i will be VERY successful

2fast · 08-01-2007, 12:41 PM

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Originally Posted by mikeo

The "you are what you drive" crowd, eh?

Yea, lots of those here. A manual 3-er is by order only in most stealership. But I'm sure its like that everywhere in US. Manuals with only sports pkg. on the lot pretty much doesn't exist...

imported_MPower · 08-01-2007, 12:48 PM

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Originally Posted by Eventually

Yea, lots of those here. A manual 3-er is by order only in most stealership. But I'm sure its like that everywhere in US. Manuals with only sports pkg. on the lot pretty much doesn't exist...

I work as a valet attendant as a summer job and you'd be surprised how many 335is are manuals. I'd say at least 30% of the ones that pull are sticks.

Robert · 08-01-2007, 12:52 PM

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Originally Posted by onehots2k

It seems as if the 135i has gotten a good 75% of the attention of those on this site. If you look back into time, it was the base models of the 3series that put BMW on the map. It is my theory that the 128i will be responsible for the sucess or the demise of the 1 series in the U.S. I have a lot of faith in the car for many reasons.

1.) It is suppose to start at less than 30k

2.) It is going to have 230hp, 200lb of torque.(A 2005 325i had 192hp)

3.) The weight will be around 31XX

4.) It will have the typical bmw attributes; DSC, 50/50 weight, etc.

Any thoughts or additions to the list?

5) It is cute and it has the BMW badge. Therefore a lot of female buyers may be interested. This will bring girls into our forum.

atr_hugo · 08-01-2007, 12:55 PM

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Originally Posted by robert

5) It is cute and it has the BMW badge. Therefore a lot of female buyers may be interested. This will bring girls into our forum.

Girls? How are we supposed to behave around them?

BForbes · 08-01-2007, 01:07 PM

Haha, you guys crack me up.

ibeam81 · 08-01-2007, 01:37 PM

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Originally Posted by MPower

I work as a valet attendant as a summer job and you'd be surprised how many 335is are manuals. I'd say at least 30% of the ones that pull are sticks.

I'm actually not surprised by that percentage for the 335i. How about the 328i? How many of those are MTs?

brfbmw128i · 08-01-2007, 02:15 PM

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Originally Posted by robert

5) It is cute and it has the BMW badge. Therefore a lot of female buyers may be interested. This will bring girls into our forum.

:bs:......My milkshakes brings all the girls to the forum....now let me do a little dance....:roundel:

OniKoroshi · 08-01-2007, 02:16 PM

What's the ratio of 328's to 335's?

brfbmw128i · 08-01-2007, 02:21 PM

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Originally Posted by OniKoroshi

What's the ratio of 328's to 335's?

im curious as well, you should start a new thread with a poll.

123d · 08-01-2007, 02:49 PM

I think some people are dreaming to think that the 135 will be ~$35,000. I suspect the 128 vs. 135 ratio will be simular that that of the 3 sedan... 4 : 1.

Drillslinger · 08-01-2007, 07:17 PM

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Originally Posted by woj

Since the 128i appears to be a NA model (correct me if you know otherwise), it won't even have the pulling power of the 130i M sport that has been reviewed in the UK car rags.

What I don't understand is why it won't have the same power as the 130i since it shares the same engine, 3.0 I6 with ~260hp / ~230 lb-ft in the 130 vs the 230hp / 200 lb-ft in the 128

amdmaxx · 08-01-2007, 09:39 PM

.9) It has BMW badge..

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Originally Posted by onehots2k

It seems as if the 135i has gotten a good 75% of the attention of those on this site. If you look back into time, it was the base models of the 3series that put BMW on the map. It is my theory that the 128i will be responsible for the sucess or the demise of the 1 series in the U.S. I have a lot of faith in the car for many reasons.

1.) It is suppose to start at less than 30k

2.) It is going to have 230hp, 200lb of torque.(A 2005 325i had 192hp)

3.) The weight will be around 31XX

4.) It will have the typical bmw attributes; DSC, 50/50 weight, etc.

Any thoughts or additions to the list?

ibeam81 · 08-01-2007, 09:41 PM

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Originally Posted by amdmaxx

.9) It has BMW badge..

Good one!

This is getting to be like Letterman. :biggrin:

imported_MPower · 08-01-2007, 10:22 PM

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Originally Posted by ibeam81

I'm actually not surprised by that percentage for the 335i. How about the 328i? How many of those are MTs?

A lot more 328s are ATs. The 335i seems to have really captured the enthusiast market.

Robert · 08-02-2007, 12:18 AM

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Originally Posted by atr_hugo

Girls? How are we supposed to behave around them?

I don't know but I think I will have to start taking showers.

woj · 08-02-2007, 07:22 AM

Drillslinger...it's in the marketing. BMW wants to differentiate the 135i from the car beneath it for sales purposes. Selling a 130i would detract from 135i sales, hence the decision to dumbdown the motor so that if performance is your game, 135i is the name. They won't knowingly weaken their sales of the lucrative 135i by offerring something with 90% of the grunt and handling.
It sucks, but all of the European manufacturers do this, look at VAG with the TT lineup as a prime example.

Drillslinger · 08-02-2007, 07:48 AM

Yeah, good point :frown: I wonder how hard it would be to get those 30 hp back?

woj · 08-02-2007, 08:00 AM

We'll have to wait and see if Vishnu can come up with something. My bigger concern is whether the M pack for the 128i will include the bigger brakes or whether it will be all fluff, as BMW often does on lower models.

BimmerBoi2100 · 08-02-2007, 08:35 AM

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Originally Posted by TheUltimateDriver

Yup, the Euro car rags have not been kind to the 1-Series hatches. Hopefully BMW AG has addressed the various issues with the coupe.

What UK mags are you reading. The only complaint that I have read in the UK mags is the ride is choppy on non-gravel roads. You must have been reading the Top Gear magazine, they notoriously bash BMW cars. The 1-er is a pretty hot car in Europe. Europeans are actually fond of smaller cars. The only thing that will hurt the 1-er in the States is it's price. BMW has to convince folks that it's a step up from cars like the MX-5 or the Solstice. Show me one source that bashes the 1 series product line and I'll give you two that love it.

http://209.85.129.104/search?q=cache...&ct=clnk&cd=14

http://www.carpages.co.uk/bmw/1-seri...2-22-03-05.asp

With gas prices the way they are people are slowly turning to smaller cars. The 128 and 135 offer pretty exciting packages.

ibeam81 · 08-02-2007, 08:36 AM

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Originally Posted by MPower

A lot more 328s are ATs. The 335i seems to have really captured the enthusiast market.

Thanks! That jives with what I was expecting. I would guess that the majority of the 128is would be AT, while there will be a higher percentage of MTs in the 135i.

ibeam81 · 08-02-2007, 08:42 AM

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Originally Posted by BimmerBoi2100

What UK mags are you reading. The only complaint that I have read in the UK mags is the ride is choppy on non-gravel roads. You must have been reading the Top Gear magazine, they notoriously bash BMW cars. The 1-er is a pretty hot car in Europe. Europeans are actually fond of smaller cars. The only thing that will hurt the 1-er in the States is it's price. BMW has to convince folks that it's a step up from cars like the MX-5 or the Solstice. Show me one source that bashes the 1 series product line and I'll give you two that love it.

http://209.85.129.104/search?q=cache:5lpFxppJrn0J:cars.lycos.co.uk/cars/reviews/Review.aspx%3Fmodel%3D1244+120i+UK+review&hl=en&ct =clnk&cd=14

http://www.carpages.co.uk/bmw/1-seri...2-22-03-05.asp

With gas prices the way they are people are slowly turning to smaller cars. The 128 and 135 offer pretty exciting packages.

Top Gear tends to have a love affair with the really high-end cars, so in that regard the 1er can definitely be seen as lacking. But despite any negative comments, the reality is that the 1er is BMW's top seller. Also, it's interesting that performance oriented BMW is selling a majority of diesels now. Hopefully this is the shape of things to come for the US.

inTgr8r · 08-02-2007, 10:40 AM

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Originally Posted by woj

We'll have to wait and see if Vishnu can come up with something. My bigger concern is whether the M pack for the 128i will include the bigger brakes or whether it will be all fluff, as BMW often does on lower models.

It wouldn't surprise me if M pack is 135i only from the factory.
& M kit for the 128i will be a dealer install body kit from the parts bin.

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