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[135]

RE-11 / AD08R
- 225/40/18, 255/35/18
- 235/40/18, 265/35/18
RE-11A
- 235/40/18, 265/35/18

These will also stand up to track use, unlike the PSS, which will get ripped to shreds.

[chris82]

Originally Posted by Kgolf31

Personally I think the RS3v2s have better wet performance than the Z2s

What size RS3s do you run?

[Kgolf31]

Originally Posted by Chrisar82

What size RS3s do you run?

245/40/17 square

[ShocknAwe]

Originally Posted by John_01

Maybe I'm the only one, but I don't like the PSS. They have very soft sidewalls and the steering response feels very soft.

The Goodyear Eagle F1 Asymmetric v1 was a better tire IMO. I haven't tried the F1 Assymetric v2. I'm pretty sure the Goodyear will work a lot better in the rain at highway speed.

Eagle F1 Asym was another tire that was better than the MPSS yes. Wasn't it more expensive too though? I remember them being up there with the $400/tire pirellis.

[Kizzu]

hankooks are the hit right now. since they have changed their tyre compound they made huge improvements. bfg rivals, dunlops z2's, yokohama neova ad08r and toyo proxes t1r are not a bad replacement either.

[darkrom]

I ran hankook evo V12s on my evo x and regretted it from day one. They felt like a MASSIVE downgrade over the stock tires.

[ShocknAwe]

Originally Posted by darkrom

I ran hankook evo V12s on my evo x and regretted it from day one. They felt like a MASSIVE downgrade over the stock tires.

Kook Evo V12's felt very much like the old pilot sports. Quite mushy and overwhelmingly average grip. They do have a new version which is supposed to be much improved but I haven't had the opportunity to drive a car with those.

[Pyrat 2]

Originally Posted by 135

RE-11 / AD08R
- 225/40/18, 255/35/18
- 235/40/18, 265/35/18
RE-11A
- 235/40/18, 265/35/18

These will also stand up to track use, unlike the PSS, which will get ripped to shreds.

Never had any issues with MPSS getting ripped up. In fact they have held up pretty well. I'm not saying they are great track tires. Simply that they have been durable for me. Now I had some Conti Extreme contact that literally started to chunk and fall apart.

[BMW86]

Originally Posted by darkrom

I ran hankook evo V12s on my evo x and regretted it from day one. They felt like a MASSIVE downgrade over the stock tires.

Why didn't you like them?

[darkrom]

Originally Posted by BMW86

Why didn't you like them?

The car was able to out handle the tires. Take a turn to fast and it'll start to lose grip. The grip overall just felt absolutely terrible. To drive to the store they would be fine, to push the car at all and it really felt like a huge waste of money. I felt like I spent 80% of the cost of a good set of tires on something that turned my evo x into a lancer lol.

[BMW86]

Originally Posted by darkrom

The car was able to out handle the tires. Take a turn to fast and it'll start to lose grip. The grip overall just felt absolutely terrible. To drive to the store they would be fine, to push the car at all and it really felt like a huge waste of money. I felt like I spent 80% of the cost of a good set of tires on something that turned my evo x into a lancer lol.

That's interesting.

What stock tires did your EVO X have? And was it stock - how much power was it making?

I was actually looking at a set of these tires myself.

[Kgolf31]

Originally Posted by darkrom

The car was able to out handle the tires. Take a turn to fast and it'll start to lose grip. The grip overall just felt absolutely terrible. To drive to the store they would be fine, to push the car at all and it really felt like a huge waste of money. I felt like I spent 80% of the cost of a good set of tires on something that turned my evo x into a lancer lol.

Then you bought the wrong tires for your application then.

Lets think this out:

-EVOs cannot turn.

-You expect tires to make the car turn.


Anyways, I run V12s Evo2 for DDing tires and they are perfectly reasonable. I don't see anything wrong with them. For $320 they are worth the investment

[darkrom]

Originally Posted by Kgolf31

Then you bought the wrong tires for your application then.

Lets think this out:

-EVOs cannot turn.

-You expect tires to make the car turn.


Anyways, I run V12s Evo2 for DDing tires and they are perfectly reasonable. I don't see anything wrong with them. For $320 they are worth the investment

The evo x out handled the 135i with great ease so IDK where you get they cannot turn. I'd feel confident taking a turn 20+ mph faster in the x than I do in my 135i, even though I like the 135i much much more.

The evo x handled wonderfully on the stock yokohama (custom tire made for the evo x). Put the V12 evos on the car and noticed a massive handling decrease. No other changes.

The car already turned quite nicely. The evo v12s were to this day the worst "performance" tire I've ever owned. If someone gave me a set for free I wouldn't even pay to have them mounted on the tires. I'd sell them and use the money to buy something else.

Of course this is just my opinion, but really they were the biggest performance hit I've ever caused to any car I've ever owned.

[darkrom]

Originally Posted by BMW86

That's interesting.

What stock tires did your EVO X have? And was it stock - how much power was it making?

I was actually looking at a set of these tires myself.

Stock tires were custom made yokos. It had intake exhaust bov and a tune and I think that was it. Not some big power car. My 135i is currently making more power for sure.

I really suggest saving up for a better tire. The PSS is lightyears ahead of the V12s. I was just seeing if maybe there is something I missed that was an even better buy for next year.

[631twentyeighteye]

Originally Posted by ShocknAwe

Kook Evo V12's felt very much like the old pilot sports. Quite mushy and overwhelmingly average grip. They do have a new version which is supposed to be much improved but I haven't had the opportunity to drive a car with those.

I drove the evo2's on my dads 335i the other day. For the record, i've had 2 sets of the first model v12 evo's(and currently are on my car).

The evo2's compound is SO MUCH BETTER. There's much less road noise, more comfort, and they have WAY more grip than the prior compound. I was genuinely surprised at how much of difference there was between the two different tires. My dad also commented on all of these things as well, and he's rather oblivious to things of the sort

[ShocknAwe]

Originally Posted by 631twentyeighteye

I drove the evo2's on my dads 335i the other day. For the record, i've had 2 sets of the first model v12 evo's(and currently are on my car).

The evo2's compound is SO MUCH BETTER. There's much less road noise, more comfort, and they have WAY more grip than the prior compound. I was genuinely surprised at how much of difference there was between the two different tires. My dad also commented on all of these things as well, and he's rather oblivious to things of the sort

Thanks for the feedback. Does his 3er have any power mods? What did you notice as far as sidewall differences? I thought the old V12s were almost unacceptably squishy.

[darkrom]

Originally Posted by ShocknAwe

I thought the old V12s were almost unacceptably squishy.

They were to me. Especially on the evo x I mean the car was just neutered by those tires. I'd be open to trying the new ones, but I'd rather pay for something a bit nicer. Tires are never an area I want to skimp. Sounds like the new ones are much better, but I don't know...are they as good as the PSS even? I'm looking for the next step up, not a step down.

I'm considering these based on a strong recommendation from a friend who loved them on his last 2 M3s

http://www.tirerack.com/tires/tires....+ZII+Star+Spec

[Kgolf31]

I've ran on the Z2s and they are a very good tire. They just came out with the Z2* and it seems they are well welcomed, but don't have any official word on what exactly is different compared to the Z2

The Z2s shoulders are VERY hard, makes them quite responsive...especially on non-cambered cars this helps alot.


If you don't like soft sidewalls, you probably won't like RS3s. They are very soft, and they feel like mush, but they are, IMO the quickest tire out there now

[631twentyeighteye]

Originally Posted by ShocknAwe

Thanks for the feedback. Does his 3er have any power mods? What did you notice as far as sidewall differences? I thought the old V12s were almost unacceptably squishy.

They're stiffer albeit not substantially. The evo's are definitely squishy but i'm happy with them as DD tires with some spirited driving here and there. They slide quite nicely too once they're warm

My next set will probably be rs3's 235 squared.

[BMW86]

Originally Posted by Kgolf31

Then you bought the wrong tires for your application then.

Lets think this out:

-EVOs cannot turn.

-You expect tires to make the car turn.


Anyways, I run V12s Evo2 for DDing tires and they are perfectly reasonable. I don't see anything wrong with them. For $320 they are worth the investment

Are you running them on your 135i? How are they on the street? Do you have any mods and how do they ride?

Originally Posted by darkrom

The evo x out handled the 135i with great ease so IDK where you get they cannot turn. I'd feel confident taking a turn 20+ mph faster in the x than I do in my 135i, even though I like the 135i much much more.

The evo x handled wonderfully on the stock yokohama (custom tire made for the evo x). Put the V12 evos on the car and noticed a massive handling decrease. No other changes.

The car already turned quite nicely. The evo v12s were to this day the worst "performance" tire I've ever owned. If someone gave me a set for free I wouldn't even pay to have them mounted on the tires. I'd sell them and use the money to buy something else.

Of course this is just my opinion, but really they were the biggest performance hit I've ever caused to any car I've ever owned.

That's really worrying. I've used Yoko S Drive's on 1 track day and I was around 3-4 seconds slower on a windy 1 minute course.

I'm looking at putting them on my CLA45 AMG which is a similar application, AWD and similar power to your EVO X.

Originally Posted by darkrom

Stock tires were custom made yokos. It had intake exhaust bov and a tune and I think that was it. Not some big power car. My 135i is currently making more power for sure.

I really suggest saving up for a better tire. The PSS is lightyears ahead of the V12s. I was just seeing if maybe there is something I missed that was an even better buy for next year.

Originally Posted by 631twentyeighteye

I drove the evo2's on my dads 335i the other day. For the record, i've had 2 sets of the first model v12 evo's(and currently are on my car).

The evo2's compound is SO MUCH BETTER. There's much less road noise, more comfort, and they have WAY more grip than the prior compound. I was genuinely surprised at how much of difference there was between the two different tires. My dad also commented on all of these things as well, and he's rather oblivious to things of the sort

I'm actually looking at the first gen V12's, thanks for the heads up. Do you have traction issues with them at all?

[BMW86]

I can get the first gen V12's for around half the price of Conti DW's or one/third the price of PSS. The V12's are on close-out special which makes them an excellent deal. Not sure what to do. They're going on a stock CLA45.

[darkrom]

Originally Posted by BMW86

I can get the first gen V12's for around half the price of Conti DW's or one/third the price of PSS. The V12's are on close-out special which makes them an excellent deal. Not sure what to do. They're going on a stock CLA45.

Do you want squishy soft-walls for a good price? I had no problems driving like an old lady with them, but anything above that and I regretted it.

I wouldn't consider V12s without trying the 2nd generation of them. Apparently they are MUCH better, and IMHO there is a lot of room for improvement on gen 1. I would never get them again.

You can probably go to costco and get tires for $300 a set too. I'd spend the money on good tires for such a nice AMG...