This Car is BAD LUCK

[jibaholic101]

Originally Posted by BrokenVert

Most? both of them were not my fault. I was sitting at lights and I got rear ended.

But wow that is a list that rivals mine. Sorry to hear about your bad luck.

woops

[lacrosse]

Originally Posted by deeb

I live outside of the city but unfortunately work takes me there daily...

and Lacrosse, that really sucks !

Thanks I feel your pain. When it runs I love this car. When it runs..............

[Garduna]

that list is depressing -_-;

[cagekicker]

Originally Posted by Evice

I am happy that that BMW won't suffer because of Deeb anymore.

agreed!

[RPM90]

Originally Posted by deeb

August 2008 - Deeb buys a 135i

December 2008 - Deeb gets stuck in the snow and is forced to buy winter tires - $1300

December 2008 - Deeb gets his passenger side window broken and iPod stolen - $1800 in repairs

April 2009 - Deeb crashes his car due to freshly re-installed summer tires being hardened by friction trying to get out of said snow. - $18,000

May 2009 - Deeb gets car back and buys new summer tires - $1,400

June 2009 - Deeb gets his passenger side window broken and has learnt his lesson not to leave valuables in the car - thieves get nothing. - $2,200

July 2009 - Deeb sells this fucking car.

Dweeb should learn about tires and driving on not-so-good traction roads and low temps.

$2200 for a passenger side window? I'm sure you have insurance?
If not, than you're an even bigger dweeb.

[RPM90]

Originally Posted by deeb

ya all of those after december should be 2009... i will edit that.

Yep poor BMW wont suffer cause of me anymore, thank god.

I hope you're not somehow thinking any of what happened to you has anything to do with BMW, are you?

LaCrosse, yeah, I'm sure most of us cross shopped a 135i with a Cayman S and a Carrera, cause they are all in the same price range.
Oh, and the Cayman will never have problems, cause Porsches never have any issues, right?

[lacrosse]

Originally Posted by RPM90

I hope you're not somehow thinking any of what happened to you has anything to do with BMW, are you?

LaCrosse, yeah, I'm sure most of us cross shopped a 135i with a Cayman S and a Carrera, cause they are all in the same price range.
Oh, and the Cayman will never have problems, cause Porsches never have any issues, right?

JD Power just released there annual customer satisfaction rating. Porsche #2. BMW scored just below average.

And re-read what I wrote. I am cross shopping a Cayman S against a base Carrera, not a 135.

[AlBel1214]

Originally Posted by lacrosse

April 2008 - Lacrosse buys a 135i

December 2008 - lacrosse has a TCU failure that takes 4 weeks to get the parts and 3 days to install.

January 2009 - Some starts get longer and harder.

May 2009 - HPFP finally fails

June 2009 - Wastegate actuator fails and gets replaced. Car still throws codes, so new software is downloaded from BMWNA. Car STILL throws codes, BMWNA says replace the turbos. Two are required. One arrives. No one knows when the other will arrive. Lacrosse starts cross shopping Cayman S and Carreras.

You just topped the OP by 1000 in my book these are all problems from straight up under the hood... I don't blame you for looking for something else..

[deeb]

Originally Posted by RPM90

Dweeb should learn about tires and driving on not-so-good traction roads and low temps.

$2200 for a passenger side window? I'm sure you have insurance?
If not, than you're an even bigger dweeb.

Not so good traction = Dry with no debris or anything on the road at 13 degrees celsius? You're right... I'm an idiot.

$2200 for passenger window yes because they have to repaint the side, new trim, re-do the leather seats as the glass cut them etc etc.. yes insurance - $300 deductible.

[Mega Man]

I blame Hermes for all of this...the prankster god of the Greeks. You must make a pagan sacrifice, that is bleed out a pig, offer its spleen. Hermes gave us the gift of fire. If you burn it to him, I'm sure he will be appeased and stop pulling these bouts of "bad luck" on you.

[RPM90]

Originally Posted by lacrosse

JD Power just released there annual customer satisfaction rating. Porsche #2. BMW scored just below average.

And re-read what I wrote. I am cross shopping a Cayman S against a base Carrera, not a 135.

JD Power ranks "customer satisfaction" NOT problem areas or quality.
There have been brands that have high customer satisfaction, but have poor reliability. I'm not saying this specifically about Porsche, I'm simply pointing out that JD ranking is pointless to reliability and durability questions.
Of course, point being, even Porsche's can have problems.

I read what you wrote and responded, and I reread what you wrote, and I stand with what I wrote.
By your own comments and context, you are now cross shopping Porsche's, apparently due to the poor quality of your 135i and because you have to wait for turbo's to come in.

[RPM90]

Originally Posted by deeb

Not so good traction = Dry with no debris or anything on the road at 13 degrees celsius? You're right... I'm an idiot.

$2200 for passenger window yes because they have to repaint the side, new trim, re-do the leather seats as the glass cut them etc etc.. yes insurance - $300 deductible.

I'm glad you agree, and see the error of your ways. It ain't bad luck, it's bad decisions.

Why this?:
"April 2009 - Deeb crashes his car due to freshly re-installed summer tires being hardened by friction trying to get out of said snow. - $18,000"

It appears you were not on "dry" roads.
And, in your 1st incident, you were stuck in the snow as well.
Yes, dweeb.
Don't use summer tires in winter when there is snow.

If the roads were clear and the temps fine to operate summer tires, then your driving skills must really suck as you keep getting stuck in snow and you crash, thus dweeb again.

What tires get "hardened by friction"? Heat softens tires. It doesn't harden them. Cold temps harden tires, which again is why you do NOT use summer tires in the winter.
You say it was about 55F, but you crashed your car when you "freshly re-installed" your summer tires while there was still snow out, and you managed to get stuck in it, during 55F degree weather, and then somehow you CRASHED your 1 to the tune of $18,000!?

What am I missing?

I agree all that sucks. But, I also see that your decisions and actions caused the biggest damage to your car, not bad luck.

[lacrosse]

Doesn't being sanctimonious get tiring?

[jeremyc74]

Originally Posted by RPM90

Why this?:
"April 2009 - Deeb crashes his car due to freshly re-installed summer tires being hardened by friction trying to get out of said snow. - $18,000"

It appears you were not on "dry" roads.
And, in your 1st incident, you were stuck in the snow as well.
Yes, dweeb.
Don't use summer tires in winter when there is snow.

.

You need to go back and re-read that, because you very obviously didn't get it.

He put the summer tires back on once it got warm.

[jeremyc74]

Originally Posted by RPM90

JD Power ranks "customer satisfaction" NOT problem areas or quality.
.

No, actually they do several surveys that rate quality and reliability.

http://www.jdpower.com/autos/car-ratings/

[lacrosse]

Originally Posted by jeremyc74

No, actually they do several surveys that rate quality and reliability.

http://www.jdpower.com/autos/car-ratings/

So if I read that correctly it looks like Porsche is one of the best. Thanks for the support!

Like I said in an earlier post, I love my 135 when it is running right. Lately that hasn't been the case.

PS. Love the sig!

[deeb]

Originally Posted by RPM90

I'm glad you agree, and see the error of your ways. It ain't bad luck, it's bad decisions.

Why this?:
"April 2009 - Deeb crashes his car due to freshly re-installed summer tires being hardened by friction trying to get out of said snow. - $18,000"

It appears you were not on "dry" roads.
And, in your 1st incident, you were stuck in the snow as well.
Yes, dweeb.
Don't use summer tires in winter when there is snow.

If the roads were clear and the temps fine to operate summer tires, then your driving skills must really suck as you keep getting stuck in snow and you crash, thus dweeb again.

What tires get "hardened by friction"? Heat softens tires. It doesn't harden them. Cold temps harden tires, which again is why you do NOT use summer tires in the winter.
You say it was about 55F, but you crashed your car when you "freshly re-installed" your summer tires while there was still snow out, and you managed to get stuck in it, during 55F degree weather, and then somehow you CRASHED your 1 to the tune of $18,000!?

What am I missing?

I agree all that sucks. But, I also see that your decisions and actions caused the biggest damage to your car, not bad luck.

Lol, ok let me clarify....

In December, I had my stock runflats on and got stuck in the snow. I spun my tires for quite some time trying to get out... I was in front of my house.

After this incident, I switched to winter tires and the RFT's were sitting in my room temperature garage for 5 months until April, when I put them back on. In the time they were sitting they hardened - the rubber compound of the tires became excessively hard. It was for this reason that on the 4th corner I rounded the rear end gave out, while in a line of cars all going the same speed.

My wording was confusing but that's the gist of it...

[RPM90]

Originally Posted by jeremyc74

You need to go back and re-read that, because you very obviously didn't get it.

He put the summer tires back on once it got warm.

No, I read it correctly, and he has since posted, to clarify his comments, in the post right there above mine.
Did you not read the comment in quotes, which was his description of what happened?
Here let me post it again:
"April 2008 - Deeb crashes his car due to freshly re-installed summer tires being hardened by friction trying to get out of said snow. - $18,000"

Now, what's not to get? In that comment, he asserts that he crashed due to his summer tires, being hardened, by friction, from trying to get out of snow.
You also seem to have missed where I asked what I am missing, thus asking for clarification, which he did provide.
So, he DID drive with summer tires, on snow. I commented to NOT use summer tires on snow.
He assets his summer tires got "hardened" by friction. Now, he has clarified that he thinks his tires hardened because they sat in his garage for 5 months.

I don't think you followed this thread very well.

But, my overall point is clear. If you don't agree with it, that's fine too.
If you missed it, here it is again, the point is not to use summer tires in winter conditions, and if you do, then don't blame the car as having "bad luck".

[RPM90]

Originally Posted by jeremyc74

No, actually they do several surveys that rate quality and reliability.

http://www.jdpower.com/autos/car-ratings/

Yes, I mis"spoke", so let me clarify my comment, as it relates to the context of what was written.
The survey in question appears to be the initial quality study, as stated it was recently released.
Which, again, doesn't really equate to overall build quality over time.
It's sort of a pointless survey imo. Manufacturers us this "initial quality" survey in their marketing, and to me it's misleading.

I should have been clearer and more correct, but I thought most would get it given the context if they had read correctly.

[RPM90]

Originally Posted by lacrosse

Doesn't being sanctimonious get tiring?

If one can't take rebuttal or opinions different than their, then they shouldn't post in the first place.

That $.50 college word doesn't fit here.
There is nothing sanctimonious about saying to someone to not use summer tires in the winter. And, there is no holier than thou attitude when saying that someone shouldn't blame "luck" or "bad luck" when actually their own actions resulted in a negative outcome.

[deeb]

Lol, you are crazy.

"April 2009 - Deeb crashes his car due to freshly re-installed summer tires being hardened by friction trying to get out of said snow. - $18,000"

"said snow" is referring to the December 2008 post, in which I got stuck in the snow.

I didn't crash because I drove in snow with summer tires, for the record - the crash took place on dry roads in April, with summer tires on. However the hardening of the tires, caused from driving in snow.. actually let me back up because I feel like I'm being attacked. I drove around my block to test out how the car handled in the snow, and I got stuck infront of my house. So, its not like I was driving 25kms to walmart or something....

[lacrosse]

Originally Posted by RPM90

If one can't take rebuttal or opinions different than their, then they shouldn't post in the first place.

That $.50 college word doesn't fit here.
There is nothing sanctimonious about saying to someone to not use summer tires in the winter. And, there is no holier than thou attitude when saying that someone shouldn't blame "luck" or "bad luck" when actually their own actions resulted in a negative outcome.

So now you are the board police?

Stay tuned for the next SAT word.