Test Drove new Audi A4 3.2 Ultra Sport

peakpro · 10-08-2005, 08:32 PM

RS4 is a great looking ride.

Imperial · 10-08-2005, 08:59 PM

that new RS4 is sooooo hot. LOVE IT!

I was considering a new A4 before I got my E90, too, but overall I liked the way the E90 came from the factory better than the A4. The A4's are getting PRICEY, too! Those S-Line (or Ultra-Sport) models are beautiful, though, I must say...

aloyouis · 10-08-2005, 09:06 PM

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Originally Posted by ZenDriver

You know, Audi needs to start releasing a cogent product lineup. This whole 2.0T, 2.0T Quattro, 3.2, 3.2 Quattro, Avant, S4, RS6, RS6 S-Line Ultrasport 2005.53284 is just confusing BS.

It makes me think that Audi really doesn't know what the hell they are doing with the product lineup because they seem to keep needing to trump themselves with different versions of the same car.

NO! It just means that Audi is bringing more versions of the same car to the US than BMW does. Nothing more or less.

Think about all the 3 serieas variations that we (in the US) don't see...

stressdoc · 10-08-2005, 09:36 PM

Right, the name of the game is personalization in this segment now. That is why I think it so important for BMW to get the 335, maybe a low ball 323, the E92, and certainly the diesels, to the USA market.

Phoenix-IT · 10-09-2005, 01:45 AM

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Originally Posted by ZenDriver

Nice VW...

That's like someone looking at your car and saying, "Nice Mini..."

Using the same logic, someone could look at the RS4 and say, "Nice Porsche."

Phoenix-IT · 10-09-2005, 01:48 AM

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Originally Posted by ska

Did someone said....RS4!!!!

Dude! Stop that! I just caught wood... :rocks:

Phoenix-IT · 10-09-2005, 01:56 AM

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Originally Posted by Choon

crazy expensive!

i thought it was below 45G's..

If you want more power, the V6 and S-Line trim are a waste of money.

You can get the same suspention for the regular A4 Quattro that comes with the $3000 S-Line trim by checking the "Sports Suspention" option, it's $250. The S-Line trim is mostly badges, wheels and aero kit.

The 2.0T engine is very strong, and there is already a APR reflash for the ECU that bumps it up to 242HP and 292 ft/lb of torque, it's $600. People are saying it outruns the B5 S4 with the ECU upgrade. The stock exhaust is also very restrictive on the 2.0T and early reports from the tuners say it will put out about 280HP with the ECU program, high-flow cat and turbo back exhaust.

I'm still considering the A4 as well as the BMW. One can be had for about $34K with the sports suspention, wheel upgrade, technology package and premium package with the 2.0T engine, 6 speed manual and Quattro.

Squawks · 10-09-2005, 02:00 AM

Well, regarding the topic of the 'better' navigation in Audi - while I can't comment much in depth about the technical aspects of it, the worst turnoff about Audi's navigation relative to BMW's offering is the simple placement of the screen. Audi's navigation screen is much lower than BMW's placement of screen, forcing the driver to have to turn his head down to look at the screen...whether glancing at the screen is for checking out the maps, looking at climate control settings, or music information display. Furthermore, the screen is exposed to possible glare, whereas BMW keenly placed the screen in a concaved panel. I haven't measured the screens directly, but it may also appear that the BMW screen encompasses a larger area, making it easier to discern things off of it.

Phoenix-IT · 10-09-2005, 02:02 AM

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Originally Posted by Phoenix-IT

If you want more power, the V6 and S-Line trim are a waste of money.

You can get the same suspention for the regular A4 Quattro that comes with the $3000 S-Line trim by checking the "Sports Suspention" option, it's $250. The S-Line trim is mostly badges, wheels and aero kit.

The 2.0T engine is very strong, and there is already a APR reflash for the ECU that bumps it up to 242HP and 292 ft/lb of torque, it's $600. People are saying it outruns the B5 S4 with the ECU upgrade. The stock exhaust is also very restrictive on the 2.0T and early reports from the tuners say it will put out about 280HP with the ECU program, high-flow cat and turbo back exhaust.

I'm still considering the A4 as well as the BMW. One can be had for about $34K with the sports suspention, wheel upgrade, technology package and premium package with the 2.0T engine, 6 speed manual and Quattro.

Ooops... Make that 36,600... So 37,200 w/ reflash. Not bad for a luxury sports sedan that's nicely loaded, all wheel drive w/ 240HP.

sunchild · 10-09-2005, 02:31 AM

the interior of Audi's new line reminds me of old school acura, namely the acura TL 1999-2003. no joke. just look at the interior of the new A6.

Kurupt1811 · 10-09-2005, 03:40 AM

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Originally Posted by Phoenix-IT

So 37,200 w/ reflash. Not bad for a luxury sports sedan that's nicely loaded, all wheel drive w/ 240HP.

you forgot to mention the cost of voiding your warrenty

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Imperial First Lieutenant 11 Rep 304 Posts Drives: '06 330i Join Date: Aug 2005 Location: Del Mar, CA iTrader: (0)	that new RS4 is sooooo hot. LOVE IT! I was considering a new A4 before I got my E90, too, but overall I liked the way the E90 came from the factory better than the A4. The A4's are getting PRICEY, too! Those S-Line (or Ultra-Sport) models are beautiful, though, I must say... __________________ 2006 330i 6MT - Black Sapphire Metallic - Terra Leather - ZSP - ZPP - iDrive - Sirius
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stressdoc Moderator 618 Rep 10,855 Posts Drives: BMW i8; Toy 4runner TRD pro Join Date: Jun 2005 Location: Waco TX iTrader: (0)	Right, the name of the game is personalization in this segment now. That is why I think it so important for BMW to get the 335, maybe a low ball 323, the E92, and certainly the diesels, to the USA market.
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Squawks One of my two dachshunds: 53 Rep 663 Posts Drives: B6 A4 3.0 Quattro Join Date: Aug 2005 Location: Ithaca, NY iTrader: (0)	Well, regarding the topic of the 'better' navigation in Audi - while I can't comment much in depth about the technical aspects of it, the worst turnoff about Audi's navigation relative to BMW's offering is the simple placement of the screen. Audi's navigation screen is much lower than BMW's placement of screen, forcing the driver to have to turn his head down to look at the screen...whether glancing at the screen is for checking out the maps, looking at climate control settings, or music information display. Furthermore, the screen is exposed to possible glare, whereas BMW keenly placed the screen in a concaved panel. I haven't measured the screens directly, but it may also appear that the BMW screen encompasses a larger area, making it easier to discern things off of it.
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sunchild Lieutenant 25 Rep 469 Posts Drives: 2006 BMW 330i Join Date: Aug 2005 Location: Orange County, CAL iTrader: (2)	the interior of Audi's new line reminds me of old school acura, namely the acura TL 1999-2003. no joke. just look at the interior of the new A6.
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