Going backwards...I had to go back to polish out some haze!

Uptempo80 · 08-20-2010, 12:30 AM

Yes, after spending around 4 hours just waxing, I found a dime sized haze patch on my car's hood right above the left kidney grille. I created this problem...probably ordering the wrong clay

. The clay I tested in that section was too abrasive..leaving me confused

.

I noticed it @ night when I was finishing up the detail. I had just buffed off the hand-applied wax; Zymol vintage. Of all the waxes I own & easily the best stuff I own It was the ultimate failure to go back and start over in that section. I reapplied a Combo of paint cleaner, polishing compound, cleaner/polish, and a fine hand polish. Haze removed...but what a hassle. What a poor selction I made when ordering this clay.

The car is in the garage awaiting tomorrow when I start re-applying wax to get back on track with the detail.

I have some questions! ?

What do I do? Could I re-apply the vintage wax on the section and try to blend the new wax with the already cured wax?? The wax on there now is detailed/worked over & cured. It has been on there for 2 days.

Products used to date:
1.) Zymol Clear auto bathe
2.) Griot's Plaint cleaning clay
3.) Zymol Lehm Klay III (The small $42.00 clay bar that caused this issue!)
4.) Zymol Klay Lube
5.) Zymol HD cleanse paint cleaner (I've been using this stuff for 10 years!)
6.) Meguiar's Mirror Glaze #34 Professional Hi-Tech trigger wash
7.) Zymol Vintage estate glaze wax (Extraaa pricey stuff & the best wax I own)
8.) Zymol Detail wax
(It's a topper wax for abs plastic areas to work hand in hand with the flex agents used in paint on plastic bumpers, rocker panel covers, etc.

I skipped polishing the car due to the lack of knowledge on what polish is the absolute 100% best option for hand application.
I wanted my first detail to be done in the process I normally perform on my E30. Hand applied-only products.
I've always skipped polish when using my best waxes, Zymol Destiny & Vintage Never thought it was needed.
When I use my Swissvax Onyx or Zymol creame I use Meguairs Mirror Glaze Polish #7, Show Car Glaze (2 coats)

Removing the clay-created Haze/scuffing tonight I used:
-HD cleanse
-Car Groom cleaner/polish
-Turtle Wax premium grade polishing compound
-Meguairs Mirror Glaze Polish #7 (2 coats)

The haze is gone...but so is my wax.

Well, I'm off to sleep. Tomorrow morning will come quick and it's the last day before the Concours

.

Uptempo80 · 08-20-2010, 01:36 PM

Well..I don't know and I don't have much time left, so I'm going to just apply 2 more even coats of wax and then follow up the polished section with 1 extra coating of wax.
It should just blend evenly. Atleast I'd think that it would be blended well

.

?
I didn't want to do this..but the haze was bad. I noticed the spot and kept dwelling on it...problem solved with the paint cleaner and polishes.

BlackjackMulligan · 08-20-2010, 02:34 PM

I don't think you'll have a problem just reapplying wax to the affected area, but then again I'm not familiar with the wax you're using.

I'm still stuck on the $42 clay bar!!!

Uptempo80 · 08-20-2010, 04:41 PM

The clay was a waste, the only Zymol product I've ever disliked.

Uptempo80 · 08-21-2010, 09:39 PM

Results were good. I waxed the entire hood and then decided to just add another coating to the entire body. I did make sure to double coat the polished area..so looks like the blending was a success.
The way I looked at it..I the entire hood received 2 coatings of wax...blended in.
(I only used the fine polish & polishing compound on the specific area to remove the haze/fine hairline scratches!)
No issues

Concours was today. Had a great time and I won 1st place in my class.

BlackjackMulligan · 08-21-2010, 11:02 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Uptempo80

Results were good. I waxed the entire hood and then decided to just add another coating to the entire body. I did make sure to double coat the polished area..so looks like the blending was a success.
The way I looked at it..I the entire hood received 2 coatings of wax...blended in.
(I only used the fine polish & polishing compound on the specific area to remove the haze/fine hairline scratches!)
No issues

Concours was today. Had a great time and I won 1st place in my class.

Nice, congrats!

MuttGrunt · 08-23-2010, 11:57 AM

Congrat's on the win. Clay marring is nothing new - as reason you really need to make sure to use plenty of lube and no pressure when claying a car that isn't set to get polished right afterwards.

Something that might help as well as a different clay bar. The softest stuff on the market is probably the Bilt Hamber clay that's not available in the US... which means shipping is costly - but in this case: i think worth it.
http://www.carnaubawaxshop.co.uk/sho...?product_id=96

08-20-2010, 12:30 AM	#1
Uptempo80 Lieutenant 59 Rep 513 Posts Drives: 2016 228iC -picked up 8-13-16! Join Date: May 2010 Location: Davie, FL iTrader: (0)	Going backwards...I had to go back to polish out some haze! Yes, after spending around 4 hours just waxing, I found a dime sized haze patch on my car's hood right above the left kidney grille. I created this problem...probably ordering the wrong clay. The clay I tested in that section was too abrasive..leaving me confused. I noticed it @ night when I was finishing up the detail. I had just buffed off the hand-applied wax; Zymol vintage. Of all the waxes I own & easily the best stuff I own It was the ultimate failure to go back and start over in that section. I reapplied a Combo of paint cleaner, polishing compound, cleaner/polish, and a fine hand polish. Haze removed...but what a hassle. What a poor selction I made when ordering this clay. The car is in the garage awaiting tomorrow when I start re-applying wax to get back on track with the detail. I have some questions! ? What do I do? Could I re-apply the vintage wax on the section and try to blend the new wax with the already cured wax?? The wax on there now is detailed/worked over & cured. It has been on there for 2 days. Products used to date: 1.) Zymol Clear auto bathe 2.) Griot's Plaint cleaning clay 3.) Zymol Lehm Klay III (The small $42.00 clay bar that caused this issue!) 4.) Zymol Klay Lube 5.) Zymol HD cleanse paint cleaner (I've been using this stuff for 10 years!) 6.) Meguiar's Mirror Glaze #34 Professional Hi-Tech trigger wash 7.) Zymol Vintage estate glaze wax (Extraaa pricey stuff & the best wax I own) 8.) Zymol Detail wax (It's a topper wax for abs plastic areas to work hand in hand with the flex agents used in paint on plastic bumpers, rocker panel covers, etc. I skipped polishing the car due to the lack of knowledge on what polish is the absolute 100% best option for hand application. I wanted my first detail to be done in the process I normally perform on my E30. Hand applied-only products. I've always skipped polish when using my best waxes, Zymol Destiny & Vintage Never thought it was needed. When I use my Swissvax Onyx or Zymol creame I use Meguairs Mirror Glaze Polish #7, Show Car Glaze (2 coats) Removing the clay-created Haze/scuffing tonight I used: -HD cleanse -Car Groom cleaner/polish -Turtle Wax premium grade polishing compound -Meguairs Mirror Glaze Polish #7 (2 coats) The haze is gone...but so is my wax. Well, I'm off to sleep. Tomorrow morning will come quick and it's the last day before the Concours . __________________ Jimmy 1988 325i sedan (Cirrus Blue Metallic, Silver Grey Leather) 2011 128i convertible (Blue Water Metallic, Grey Leather) 2013 320i sedan (Sapphire Black Metallic, Black/Black) 2016 228i convertible (Mineral White, Oyster Leather, Luxury Line) Last edited by Uptempo80; 08-20-2010 at 12:37 AM..
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Uptempo80 Lieutenant 59 Rep 513 Posts Drives: 2016 228iC -picked up 8-13-16! Join Date: May 2010 Location: Davie, FL iTrader: (0)	Well..I don't know and I don't have much time left, so I'm going to just apply 2 more even coats of wax and then follow up the polished section with 1 extra coating of wax. It should just blend evenly. Atleast I'd think that it would be blended well. ? I didn't want to do this..but the haze was bad. I noticed the spot and kept dwelling on it...problem solved with the paint cleaner and polishes. __________________ Jimmy 1988 325i sedan (Cirrus Blue Metallic, Silver Grey Leather) 2011 128i convertible (Blue Water Metallic, Grey Leather) 2013 320i sedan (Sapphire Black Metallic, Black/Black) 2016 228i convertible (Mineral White, Oyster Leather, Luxury Line)
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Uptempo80 Lieutenant 59 Rep 513 Posts Drives: 2016 228iC -picked up 8-13-16! Join Date: May 2010 Location: Davie, FL iTrader: (0)	The clay was a waste, the only Zymol product I've ever disliked. __________________ Jimmy 1988 325i sedan (Cirrus Blue Metallic, Silver Grey Leather) 2011 128i convertible (Blue Water Metallic, Grey Leather) 2013 320i sedan (Sapphire Black Metallic, Black/Black) 2016 228i convertible (Mineral White, Oyster Leather, Luxury Line)
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08-21-2010, 09:39 PM	#5
Uptempo80 Lieutenant 59 Rep 513 Posts Drives: 2016 228iC -picked up 8-13-16! Join Date: May 2010 Location: Davie, FL iTrader: (0)	Results were good. I waxed the entire hood and then decided to just add another coating to the entire body. I did make sure to double coat the polished area..so looks like the blending was a success. The way I looked at it..I the entire hood received 2 coatings of wax...blended in. (I only used the fine polish & polishing compound on the specific area to remove the haze/fine hairline scratches!) No issues Concours was today. Had a great time and I won 1st place in my class. __________________ Jimmy 1988 325i sedan (Cirrus Blue Metallic, Silver Grey Leather) 2011 128i convertible (Blue Water Metallic, Grey Leather) 2013 320i sedan (Sapphire Black Metallic, Black/Black) 2016 228i convertible (Mineral White, Oyster Leather, Luxury Line)
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MuttGrunt Banned 27 Rep 872 Posts Drives: beater;) Join Date: Jun 2010 Location: SE Michigan iTrader: (0)	Congrat's on the win. Clay marring is nothing new - as reason you really need to make sure to use plenty of lube and no pressure when claying a car that isn't set to get polished right afterwards. Something that might help as well as a different clay bar. The softest stuff on the market is probably the Bilt Hamber clay that's not available in the US... which means shipping is costly - but in this case: i think worth it. http://www.carnaubawaxshop.co.uk/sho...?product_id=96
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