3M StONEGUARD

digital12 · 05-16-2008, 11:29 PM

Hi All,

Quick question if someone can help me out..

I was thinking of getting the 3M STONEGUARD the dealer is charging $399.00. I have not spoken to them yet about the price.

Few Question....

I drive from Mississauga to Toronto about 60KM a day. I drive on the 401. Should I get the above mentioned?
My car will be AW, what will it look like on the car?
What are the drawbacks for having this put on?
What will the outcome be when I wash or wax the car?
Has anyone out there have it on there car and if so can you post the pictures?

I know it's allot of questions, sorry.....

BTW my car hs finally made it to Canada, on Thursday I hope it's on a train, and on it's way to me.....LOL

Thanks

Guido

cks0213 · 05-17-2008, 12:33 AM

I'm not really able to answer all of the questions but...
399.99 I think is pretty good price if it is a full kit meaning
full bumper full hood full fenders and side mirrors.
I was quoted 500 for fully kit 3M but... didn't think it was worth the 500 but.....now i do and here is why:

I had my 1er for 3 weeks now.... and I have just below 1900KMs and that was from 1 hours and 40minutes of highway driving and from city driving, and guess what! I have a rock chip on my bumper. I highly recommend it....... when you do get it... get it from a place that will offer lfie time warranty on the colour fading.
Good Luck!

canlefty · 05-17-2008, 12:56 AM

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Originally Posted by cks0213

I'm not really able to answer all of the questions but...
399.99 I think is pretty good price if it is a full kit meaning
full bumper full hood full fenders and side mirrors.
I was quoted 500 for fully kit 3M but... didn't think it was worth the 500 but.....now i do and here is why:

I had my 1er for 3 weeks now.... and I have just below 1900KMs and that was from 1 hours and 40minutes of highway driving and from city driving, and guess what! I have a rock chip on my bumper. I highly recommend it....... when you do get it... get it from a place that will offer lfie time warranty on the colour fading.
Good Luck!

500 for the full kit... was that installed price? dealer or independent?

TitoSkulls · 05-17-2008, 01:26 PM

Wow, those all sound like really nice prices. I paid $900 for mine at BMW Gallery in Calgary. Shadow Tint was the same price also.

49ER ROLL · 05-17-2008, 01:47 PM

I have the 3M Bra on all 4 of my toys...love it!!!! now the cars are semi truck worthy...

koala · 05-17-2008, 01:52 PM

Price on 3m film means nothing unless two things are known:

1) that it's actual 3M brand (most films are terrible quality-- and they should either be much cheaper or not even considered at all)
2) that it's custom fit, and not a pre-cut kit (pre-cut kits look like crap and should be substantially cheaper-- personally I'd never allow a pre-cut kit to go on one of my own vehicles ever again)

koala · 05-17-2008, 01:58 PM

If you want to see what the best installers in the world do, go take a look here:

http://www.premiermobilegroup.com/

raisemyrent · 05-17-2008, 04:49 PM

so pre-cut is crap eh? darn I thought it was OK to go with it.

koala · 05-17-2008, 06:23 PM

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Originally Posted by raisemyrent

so pre-cut is crap eh? darn I thought it was OK to go with it.

I had it on my '04 S2000 and I'll never do it again. I was ignorant at the time and thought it'll be fine, it was like $700 for the bumper, partial hood/fenders... it had tons of orange peel, the seams were all visible, and eventually it started to yellow (although yellowing can be caused by the adhesive as well).

All of the seams had dirt under them after a little while, too... looked terrible.

I'd rather have some rock chips then look at an install job like that again, haha.

Actually I'll try to find some pictures of my S2000 when I get home, I'm sure I have some personal examples of just how bad clear bra's can look.

Kiety · 05-17-2008, 06:43 PM

there's nothing wrong with pre-cut if you have a good installer

digital12 · 05-18-2008, 09:13 AM

Thank all for the help. I will be getting it done...

Guido

koala · 05-18-2008, 12:05 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Kiety

there's nothing wrong with pre-cut if you have a good installer

You'll still have wax lines, pre-cut kits don't wrap around the seams between body panels.

AzCanuck · 05-19-2008, 10:49 AM

Congrats on your purchase!

Re: the 3M protection, I would say it is worth it, just don't get it through the dealer! Your price seems ok but it depends on exactly what you are getting done.
When I got mine done I went straight to the guy who does it for the dealer for about 50% less. I paid about $825 for the following: hood (first 18"), front bumper, front fenders (the first part, 18"?, to match the same depth of the hood), side mirrors, front door handles (underneath), rockers and the top part of the rear bumper (at the entrance to the trunk..protects bumper from the loading of hockey bags and luggage). So far it has protected me very well from rocks, etc although chips are inevitable unless you 3M the whole car!
I agree with koala. You need to make sure of the brand (3M or xpel is also good) and that it is custom fit. You don't want a guy with an OLFA knife hacking things up! My kit was computer generated/cut to meet the design of my car. Try this site as well:

www.xpel.com

AZC

mtla4 · 05-19-2008, 12:01 PM

Had it on my car never again and my brother has it too it sucks. Turns yellow after a few years...Id rather get the thing resprayed

koala · 05-19-2008, 01:20 PM

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Originally Posted by mtla4

Had it on my car never again and my brother has it too it sucks. Turns yellow after a few years...Id rather get the thing resprayed

You had a brand other than 3M or they used an incorrect adhesive.

warmtoes · 05-19-2008, 02:12 PM

Agreed. I have the 3M stoneguard for my headlights (stupid things are still glass covered). I've had them for 5 years and still no discolouration.

john970 · 05-19-2008, 02:26 PM

My A4 has this and I think it would look better had it never been put on. You can repair a chip with some touch up paint pretty easily.

koala · 05-19-2008, 02:46 PM

Some cars just don't need it, too. My CX-7 barely has any rock chips thus-far (its about 18 months old). On the flip side I'm disappointed we didn't do it for my girlfriends Yaris-- it's 6 months old and looks pretty bad already

xtrema · 05-20-2008, 11:22 PM

regardless brand or adhesive, it will differ in color compare to unprotected paint. There are maintenance kits to keep it newer longer but it's inevitable. You can't expect a piece of plastic being blasted with dirt and rock to retain the same shine as the body after many years.

I have yet to see any installation that stay invisible after 2-3 years.

If don't plan to keep it, don't bother. If you DO plan to keep it, switch it out every 3-4 years.

cks0213 · 05-24-2008, 12:54 AM

sorry for a late response CANLEFTY but... 500 was for 3M full kit
installed by independent... It's malcom's tinting in Edmonton

theanhdy · 05-24-2008, 01:06 AM

You might want to try Ventureshield instead of 3M on a white car. 3M will appear yellow on Alpine White while Ventureshield will not.

Totenkopf · 06-27-2008, 01:34 AM

I got stoneguard thrown into the deal, But if I didn't i would still get it, just not at the dealership.

05-16-2008, 11:29 PM	#1
digital12 Private 6 Rep 77 Posts Drives: Join Date: Apr 2008 iTrader: (0)	3M StONEGUARD Hi All, Quick question if someone can help me out.. I was thinking of getting the 3M STONEGUARD the dealer is charging $399.00. I have not spoken to them yet about the price. Few Question.... I drive from Mississauga to Toronto about 60KM a day. I drive on the 401. Should I get the above mentioned? My car will be AW, what will it look like on the car? What are the drawbacks for having this put on? What will the outcome be when I wash or wax the car? Has anyone out there have it on there car and if so can you post the pictures? I know it's allot of questions, sorry..... BTW my car hs finally made it to Canada, on Thursday I hope it's on a train, and on it's way to me.....LOL Thanks Guido
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05-17-2008, 12:33 AM	#2
cks0213 Second Lieutenant 25 Rep 214 Posts Drives: Join Date: Mar 2008 iTrader: (1)	I'm not really able to answer all of the questions but... 399.99 I think is pretty good price if it is a full kit meaning full bumper full hood full fenders and side mirrors. I was quoted 500 for fully kit 3M but... didn't think it was worth the 500 but.....now i do and here is why: I had my 1er for 3 weeks now.... and I have just below 1900KMs and that was from 1 hours and 40minutes of highway driving and from city driving, and guess what! I have a rock chip on my bumper. I highly recommend it....... when you do get it... get it from a place that will offer lfie time warranty on the colour fading. Good Luck!
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05-17-2008, 01:26 PM	#4
TitoSkulls Private First Class 9 Rep 147 Posts Drives: 135i Join Date: Jan 2008 Location: Calgary, AB iTrader: (0)	Wow, those all sound like really nice prices. I paid $900 for mine at BMW Gallery in Calgary. Shadow Tint was the same price also. __________________ Sparkling Graphite - Savanna Beige - Grey Poplar - M Sport -Premium - HiFi
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49ER ROLL ///Mmm 147 Rep 3,059 Posts Drives: 2011 M3 E92 SG Join Date: Mar 2008 Location: Peninsula Bay Area iTrader: (0)	I have the 3M Bra on all 4 of my toys...love it!!!! now the cars are semi truck worthy... __________________
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05-17-2008, 01:52 PM	#6
koala Second Lieutenant 4 Rep 228 Posts Drives: 06 BMW M Coupe Join Date: Dec 2008 Location: Edmonton, AB CA iTrader: (0)	Price on 3m film means nothing unless two things are known: 1) that it's actual 3M brand (most films are terrible quality-- and they should either be much cheaper or not even considered at all) 2) that it's custom fit, and not a pre-cut kit (pre-cut kits look like crap and should be substantially cheaper-- personally I'd never allow a pre-cut kit to go on one of my own vehicles ever again) __________________ 2006 M Coupe \| Interlagos Blue \| Black Interior.
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koala Second Lieutenant 4 Rep 228 Posts Drives: 06 BMW M Coupe Join Date: Dec 2008 Location: Edmonton, AB CA iTrader: (0)	If you want to see what the best installers in the world do, go take a look here: http://www.premiermobilegroup.com/ __________________ 2006 M Coupe \| Interlagos Blue \| Black Interior.
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05-17-2008, 04:49 PM	#8
raisemyrent Captain 43 Rep 910 Posts Drives: Black Sapphire 428i xD GC Join Date: Mar 2008 Location: Vancouver, BC iTrader: (0)	so pre-cut is crap eh? darn I thought it was OK to go with it. __________________ 435i Coupe Estoril Blue on Black X Drive, M Sport Package Stage II, Premium Package
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05-18-2008, 09:13 AM	#11
digital12 Private 6 Rep 77 Posts Drives: Join Date: Apr 2008 iTrader: (0)	Thank all for the help. I will be getting it done... Guido
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05-19-2008, 10:49 AM	#13
AzCanuck New Member 0 Rep 6 Posts Drives: Join Date: Apr 2008 iTrader: (0)	Congrats on your purchase! Re: the 3M protection, I would say it is worth it, just don't get it through the dealer! Your price seems ok but it depends on exactly what you are getting done. When I got mine done I went straight to the guy who does it for the dealer for about 50% less. I paid about $825 for the following: hood (first 18"), front bumper, front fenders (the first part, 18"?, to match the same depth of the hood), side mirrors, front door handles (underneath), rockers and the top part of the rear bumper (at the entrance to the trunk..protects bumper from the loading of hockey bags and luggage). So far it has protected me very well from rocks, etc although chips are inevitable unless you 3M the whole car! I agree with koala. You need to make sure of the brand (3M or xpel is also good) and that it is custom fit. You don't want a guy with an OLFA knife hacking things up! My kit was computer generated/cut to meet the design of my car. Try this site as well: www.xpel.com AZC __________________ Future 1 series owner
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05-19-2008, 12:01 PM	#14
mtla4 Lieutenant Colonel 42 Rep 1,756 Posts Drives: Turbo Festiva Join Date: Mar 2008 Location: Montreal iTrader: (2)	Had it on my car never again and my brother has it too it sucks. Turns yellow after a few years...Id rather get the thing resprayed
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05-19-2008, 02:12 PM	#16
warmtoes Lieutenant Colonel 31 Rep 1,917 Posts Drives: EBII 435i xDrive Join Date: Apr 2008 Location: Vancouver iTrader: (1)	Agreed. I have the 3M stoneguard for my headlights (stupid things are still glass covered). I've had them for 5 years and still no discolouration. __________________ *2014 EBII 435i xDrive M-sport* Gone: 2011 TiAg F25 X3 xDrive35i M-sport Gone: 2008 TiAg w/Coral Red E88 135i Cab M-sport
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05-19-2008, 02:26 PM	#17
john970 1er 73 Rep 1,205 Posts Drives: 08 135 Join Date: Feb 2008 Location: Denver iTrader: (0)	My A4 has this and I think it would look better had it never been put on. You can repair a chip with some touch up paint pretty easily.
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05-19-2008, 02:46 PM	#18
koala Second Lieutenant 4 Rep 228 Posts Drives: 06 BMW M Coupe Join Date: Dec 2008 Location: Edmonton, AB CA iTrader: (0)	Some cars just don't need it, too. My CX-7 barely has any rock chips thus-far (its about 18 months old). On the flip side I'm disappointed we didn't do it for my girlfriends Yaris-- it's 6 months old and looks pretty bad already __________________ 2006 M Coupe \| Interlagos Blue \| Black Interior.
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05-20-2008, 11:22 PM	#19
xtrema Private 0 Rep 58 Posts Drives: Join Date: Apr 2008 iTrader: (0)	regardless brand or adhesive, it will differ in color compare to unprotected paint. There are maintenance kits to keep it newer longer but it's inevitable. You can't expect a piece of plastic being blasted with dirt and rock to retain the same shine as the body after many years. I have yet to see any installation that stay invisible after 2-3 years. If don't plan to keep it, don't bother. If you DO plan to keep it, switch it out every 3-4 years.
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05-24-2008, 12:54 AM	#20
cks0213 Second Lieutenant 25 Rep 214 Posts Drives: Join Date: Mar 2008 iTrader: (1)	sorry for a late response CANLEFTY but... 500 was for 3M full kit installed by independent... It's malcom's tinting in Edmonton
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05-24-2008, 01:06 AM	#21
theanhdy Major 93 Rep 1,083 Posts Drives: 135i Join Date: Nov 2007 Location: SOCAL SFV iTrader: (7)	You might want to try Ventureshield instead of 3M on a white car. 3M will appear yellow on Alpine White while Ventureshield will not.
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06-27-2008, 01:34 AM	#22
Totenkopf Love 135i more than wife 0 Rep 19 Posts Drives: Join Date: Jun 2008 iTrader: (0)	I got stoneguard thrown into the deal, But if I didn't i would still get it, just not at the dealership.
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