Shaking at high speeds...help please.

NYC 135i · 03-30-2011, 11:59 AM

Ok so ive had the car about 2 months now its an 08 135i never had a shake until i changed to the continental no RFT. I brought it in to bmw because of the shake and they told me that my 2 front rims are bent i got them replaced and still at speeds 70+ im feeling a shake in the steering wheel and especially when off the gas at higher speeds. Could it be possible that the rear wheels aren't balanced properly making the car shake? i got the tires mounted at a local shop but now after the wheels were replaced the fronts are only balanced at bmw so this is my only conclusion but i really am not sure it could cause this...anyone have any input for me?

Tom K. · 03-30-2011, 12:06 PM

If you are feeling a shimmy through the steering wheel, the fronts need balancing. If it is a general vibration at certain high speeds with a stable steering wheel, then it's rear balance.

Tom

NYC 135i · 03-30-2011, 12:09 PM

its hard to describe i feel both i think but i think its the rears because bmw just balanced the front with brand new wheels...the rears were balanced by a local shop that is supposedly good and ive never had a problem with but i think it has to be the rear wheels

Dackelone · 03-30-2011, 12:17 PM

Does your can OEM wheels? Or do you have aftermarket wheels that use a centering ring to mount on the wheel hub?

I would remove your wheels and clean any and all rust from the nose of the hubs. Any rust here and the wheel will not fit right. And cause some wiggle. It is amazing on how much our hubs rust. Atleast mine do with all the car washing I do. lol use a wire brush to clean your hubs and the backs of the wheels where they bolt to the hub.

It also sounds like your wheels are bent. Maybe seek out a wheel shop that can correct bent wheels. Or buy a good used set of OE alloy wheels.

Did you ever have your (4)wheel alignment checked when you installed the new tires? Perhaps this has caused some cupping and the vibration. Did it start right after your new tires or did it take some miles later to develop?

Dackel

NYC 135i · 03-30-2011, 12:29 PM

well they replaced the front 2 rims since they were bent... im not sure if they checked the rears but thats possible i guess i figure they would have checked all 4 though...it happened after i got the tires and yes i did get a wheel alignment..maybe bmw messed up the balance on the front wheels or just the backs are out of balance

Dackelone · 03-30-2011, 12:42 PM

I would check your hubs for rust. On some cars IF you can find a show that can ballance the wheels while mounted on the car... that might just get rid of your problem.

The only real way to pin it down to your new tires would be to swap a set of tires from a friends car. Then road test for the vibration. Somes new tires can be bad. Usually just one though. IS your tire shop working with you on this?

Dackel

Boxtyp3 · 03-30-2011, 12:43 PM

Hub centric ring is the solution.

Dackelone · 03-30-2011, 12:45 PM

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Originally Posted by Boxtyp3

Hub centric ring is the solution.

Not IF he has OE wheels.

NYC 135i · 03-30-2011, 12:46 PM

hub centric ring? im not familiar with this...well i bought the tires from tirerack im hoping its not a tire its just really haunting me now

Gary@TireRack · 03-30-2011, 12:51 PM

Have the tires been checked for 'out of round'? There could be something defective with the tire.

VMRWheels · 03-30-2011, 01:08 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by NYC 135i

hub centric ring? im not familiar with this...well i bought the tires from tirerack im hoping its not a tire its just really haunting me now

Are you running OE wheels or aftermarket? If you have OE wheels, I would check if the the tires are out of round. I would recommend taking it to a shop that has access to a Hunter Road Force Balancer.

-Charles@VMRWheels

NYC 135i · 03-30-2011, 01:31 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Gill@Tirerack.com

Have the tires been checked for 'out of round'? There could be something defective with the tire.

i haven't got them checked out for out of round Gill...i actually purchased the tires from you over the phone not too long ago...is there any way i could find a place around me that does that? I've never even heard or thought about this...and yes they are OE sport wheels.

Gary@TireRack · 03-30-2011, 01:39 PM

Sure. Plug your zip into our installer locator. Take it to one with the Hunter Roadforce equipment. They'll be able to tell you if it's a problem with the tire. If it is the tire, we can work on getting you a replacement under warranty.

NYC 135i · 03-30-2011, 02:04 PM

Ok getting the tires checked as we speak

Boxtyp3 · 03-30-2011, 02:13 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Dackelone

Not IF he has OE wheels.

I was assuming that the OP has an aftermarket rims when I post that.

NYC 135i · 03-30-2011, 03:27 PM

found out all the tires are no good and tirerack wont send me new ones i have to purchase them and once i sent them back ill get credited...this is ridiculous.

Gary@TireRack · 03-30-2011, 04:47 PM

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Originally Posted by NYC 135i

found out all the tires are no good and tirerack wont send me new ones i have to purchase them and once i sent them back ill get credited...

This is true (since online retailers can't just send free products in hopes they will get the warranty items back) if you want us to handle the warranty for you.
Of course, we also talked about you being able to swap these out at any local Continental dealer, as they won't need collateral for the tires in question.

BrokenVert · 03-30-2011, 05:02 PM

My theory is that BMW dealers suck.

The last time they did an alignment on my car my steering wheel as 30 off center when the tires were straight. I had positive 1 degree of camber on one side and negative .5 on the other and my wheels were not balanced properly.

I go to the guy who does balances and alignments on drag cars on LI and my alignments held for 2 years through bent and cracked wheels.

Dealers suck at their job plain and simple

NYC 135i · 03-30-2011, 06:24 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by BrokenVert

My theory is that BMW dealers suck.

The last time they did an alignment on my car my steering wheel as 30 off center when the tires were straight. I had positive 1 degree of camber on one side and negative .5 on the other and my wheels were not balanced properly.

I go to the guy who does balances and alignments on drag cars on LI and my alignments held for 2 years through bent and cracked wheels.

Dealers suck at their job plain and simple

This is very true im just very irritated because i got them balanced at 3 different places i even brought it to nissan where my friend works and he balanced them on the GTR machine which is the one of the most accurate machines around i think he said it cost around $25k. I dont have another $800 to throw at tires again to do this swap this blows

M2BMW · 03-30-2011, 06:31 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Gill@Tirerack.com

Sure. Plug your zip into our installer locator. Take it to one with the Hunter Roadforce equipment. They'll be able to tell you if it's a problem with the tire. If it is the tire, we can work on getting you a replacement under warranty.

Does tirerack check the tire for defects before they are shipped?

Kamal · 03-30-2011, 11:00 PM

Dude I really hope you kept the rims that your useless BMW dealer told you were bent if you paid for them... if they replaced them under warranty, which I doubt, then it makes no difference... but if you paid for 2 brand new rims that didn't need replacing, you got screwed!

NYC 135i · 03-31-2011, 01:37 AM

Didnt pay for them...they replaced them for free but problem is still here.

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NYC 135i Second Lieutenant 26 Rep 257 Posts Drives: 2008 BSM 135i Join Date: Oct 2010 Location: Staten Island, NY iTrader: (2)	Shaking at high speeds...help please. Ok so ive had the car about 2 months now its an 08 135i never had a shake until i changed to the continental no RFT. I brought it in to bmw because of the shake and they told me that my 2 front rims are bent i got them replaced and still at speeds 70+ im feeling a shake in the steering wheel and especially when off the gas at higher speeds. Could it be possible that the rear wheels aren't balanced properly making the car shake? i got the tires mounted at a local shop but now after the wheels were replaced the fronts are only balanced at bmw so this is my only conclusion but i really am not sure it could cause this...anyone have any input for me?
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Tom K. Major General 124 Rep 5,627 Posts Drives: '07 328iT, '13 Boxster Join Date: Mar 2008 Location: Maryland iTrader: (0)	If you are feeling a shimmy through the steering wheel, the fronts need balancing. If it is a general vibration at certain high speeds with a stable steering wheel, then it's rear balance. Tom
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NYC 135i Second Lieutenant 26 Rep 257 Posts Drives: 2008 BSM 135i Join Date: Oct 2010 Location: Staten Island, NY iTrader: (2)	its hard to describe i feel both i think but i think its the rears because bmw just balanced the front with brand new wheels...the rears were balanced by a local shop that is supposedly good and ive never had a problem with but i think it has to be the rear wheels
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Dackelone European Editor 10539 Rep 22,992 Posts Drives: N54 e82 Join Date: Feb 2010 Location: Bayern, Germany iTrader: (1)	Does your can OEM wheels? Or do you have aftermarket wheels that use a centering ring to mount on the wheel hub? I would remove your wheels and clean any and all rust from the nose of the hubs. Any rust here and the wheel will not fit right. And cause some wiggle. It is amazing on how much our hubs rust. Atleast mine do with all the car washing I do. lol use a wire brush to clean your hubs and the backs of the wheels where they bolt to the hub. It also sounds like your wheels are bent. Maybe seek out a wheel shop that can correct bent wheels. Or buy a good used set of OE alloy wheels. Did you ever have your (4)wheel alignment checked when you installed the new tires? Perhaps this has caused some cupping and the vibration. Did it start right after your new tires or did it take some miles later to develop? Dackel
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NYC 135i Second Lieutenant 26 Rep 257 Posts Drives: 2008 BSM 135i Join Date: Oct 2010 Location: Staten Island, NY iTrader: (2)	well they replaced the front 2 rims since they were bent... im not sure if they checked the rears but thats possible i guess i figure they would have checked all 4 though...it happened after i got the tires and yes i did get a wheel alignment..maybe bmw messed up the balance on the front wheels or just the backs are out of balance
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Dackelone European Editor 10539 Rep 22,992 Posts Drives: N54 e82 Join Date: Feb 2010 Location: Bayern, Germany iTrader: (1)	I would check your hubs for rust. On some cars IF you can find a show that can ballance the wheels while mounted on the car... that might just get rid of your problem. The only real way to pin it down to your new tires would be to swap a set of tires from a friends car. Then road test for the vibration. Somes new tires can be bad. Usually just one though. IS your tire shop working with you on this? Dackel
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NYC 135i Second Lieutenant 26 Rep 257 Posts Drives: 2008 BSM 135i Join Date: Oct 2010 Location: Staten Island, NY iTrader: (2)	hub centric ring? im not familiar with this...well i bought the tires from tirerack im hoping its not a tire its just really haunting me now
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Gary@TireRack Moderator 369 Rep 4,745 Posts Drives: Formerly 1995 M3 Join Date: Oct 2006 Location: South Bend, IN, Tire Rack HQ iTrader: (2)	Have the tires been checked for 'out of round'? There could be something defective with the tire. __________________ Gary. Tire and Wheel Forum Moderator. Tire Rack Sales Rep Gary@Tirerack.com http://www.tirerack.com/a.jsp?a=AH8&url=index.jsp Please refer to 'Gary/E90 Post' as your previous contact when you order online to help support this forum.
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Gary@TireRack Moderator 369 Rep 4,745 Posts Drives: Formerly 1995 M3 Join Date: Oct 2006 Location: South Bend, IN, Tire Rack HQ iTrader: (2)	Sure. Plug your zip into our installer locator. Take it to one with the Hunter Roadforce equipment. They'll be able to tell you if it's a problem with the tire. If it is the tire, we can work on getting you a replacement under warranty. __________________ Gary. Tire and Wheel Forum Moderator. Tire Rack Sales Rep Gary@Tirerack.com http://www.tirerack.com/a.jsp?a=AH8&url=index.jsp Please refer to 'Gary/E90 Post' as your previous contact when you order online to help support this forum.
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NYC 135i Second Lieutenant 26 Rep 257 Posts Drives: 2008 BSM 135i Join Date: Oct 2010 Location: Staten Island, NY iTrader: (2)	Ok getting the tires checked as we speak
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NYC 135i Second Lieutenant 26 Rep 257 Posts Drives: 2008 BSM 135i Join Date: Oct 2010 Location: Staten Island, NY iTrader: (2)	found out all the tires are no good and tirerack wont send me new ones i have to purchase them and once i sent them back ill get credited...this is ridiculous.
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NYC 135i Second Lieutenant 26 Rep 257 Posts Drives: 2008 BSM 135i Join Date: Oct 2010 Location: Staten Island, NY iTrader: (2)	Didnt pay for them...they replaced them for free but problem is still here.
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