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06-11-2006, 05:51 AM | #1 |
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Just for info - New OEM Shock Manufacturer - Bilstein
Just to keep everyone informed
Asof June 2006 Production" The OEM shock manufacturer for E90 built with "Normal" or "Sport suspension" ( not M Sport Suspension ) has changed from BOGE/SACHS to BILSTEIN. No changes were made to the specs, just the manufacturer
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06-11-2006, 08:20 AM | #2 |
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Bilstein is more well known and seems a bit more sportier though, my shocks do very well as is. I guess BOGE/SACHS is a pretty good manufacturer. If specs stay the same then it all fall down to quality and longterm performance. Thanks for the insightful info as usual E90Fleet
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06-11-2006, 08:26 AM | #4 |
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Dear Fleet,
Any other June changes? Did they start with a new PROGMAN version in June? It would be great if we could chart the running changes that have occurred in the E90 since SOP. Thanks for the information.
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Would have to wait till I got lots of time to make a running changes chart
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So am I correct to assume my E90 will have Bilstein components? It went into production on Saturday the 10th of June. I know the specs are the same, and really, 99.99% of the driver (myself included) will not know the difference; but as BMW0 said, "Bilstein is more well know".
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06-12-2006, 11:59 AM | #9 |
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bilstein is more well known due to their aftermarket presence, but in reality, i believe sachs-boge is a much larger company. they build many suspension components that are original equipment on cars. http://www.sachs-boge.de/?weiter=1
since the new bilsteins are built to bmw's specs, they going to be very very similar to the ones they replaced.
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06-12-2006, 06:03 PM | #11 |
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Wow, very interesting. Bilstein has long made equipment that is at OEM quality, performance and comfort, so as a long time Bilstein user/fan this is great news! Maybee they can offer adjustable suspensions as OEM equipment in the future (yea right, just wishful thinking
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06-13-2006, 05:41 AM | #13 |
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Its nothing new
Bilstein has for many many years supplied BMW with shocks for certain models. ( E30, E36 ect ect ) Im not 100% shure, but I think the M Sport shocks have always been Bilstein
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11-15-2006, 12:11 PM | #15 |
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I wonder if the rates on the M pack springs would help compensate in switching from rft to non-rft. Any source for specific data on the springs?
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11-15-2006, 05:09 PM | #17 | |
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Wouldn't it be the other way around? With more mass on the arm you would need a stiffer spring, right? So with less mass (non-rft) a softer spring would ride the same? Any engineers out there? Its been too long since college for me.
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If anything, I'll bet this change is being made to further support the changeover to run-flat tires. And of course, a good reason to continue price increases... |
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11-15-2006, 06:57 PM | #20 |
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Does this mean that if my shocks are ever changed by the dealer for whatever reason in the future, then Bilsteins will be installed?
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11-15-2006, 08:57 PM | #21 | |
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I hear ya. You are looking at it from the perspective that the super stiff sidewalls necessitated a slight softer dampening and spring rate to maintain a decent ride. I was looking at it more from the perspective of force generated by larger mass moving in a given direction and a stiffer spring needed to resist that force. Based on the marketing docs BMW has put out, I bet you are on the right track. Maybe we could talk to a complete tuner like Dinan and ask them what their approach to suspension is when removing the run flats and adding 19's?
On topic – Bilsteins are great shocks. I am pretty sure my E30 M3 had them as OE. Now it has Bilstein sports that are 9 years old and still ride great. Quote:
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