Uh oh...Fuel pump problem?

josephvman · 11-24-2011, 07:49 PM

My 1M has failed to start on the first press of the starter button three days in a row. This is exactly what my '07 335i coupe started doing before the fuel pump failed. That car went through three of them in 32k miles, and I suspect was soon to fail again when I sold it. BMW bumped the warranty on the pumps to 100k, little consolation when you're stuck on the side of the road.

Has anyone here had a fuel pump failure on thei 1M?

Robert · 11-24-2011, 08:12 PM

Know that feeling. GL, hopefully its something else

m3kerry · 11-24-2011, 08:15 PM

2007's got 120k and 10 years I believe. I own one and would hate to have another car with the issue.

There is a new version of the fuel pump and this car should have it. I don't read a lot about my old 335 anymore, so I have not red about the new pump reliability...

Riley1524 · 11-24-2011, 08:21 PM

Not to rub it in, but this is why you don't buy a boosted BMW. It really sucks that you guys have to go through this especially with different models. BMW needs to get off their ass's and get this problem fixed. I can't imagine this being an issue with all the turbo'd models they'll have coming out next year

sparoz · 11-24-2011, 08:52 PM

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Originally Posted by Riley1524

Not to rub it in, but this is why you don't buy a boosted BMW. It really sucks that you guys have to go through this especially with different models. BMW needs to get off their ass's and get this problem fixed. I can't imagine this being an issue with all the turbo'd models they'll have coming out next year

It affects all high-powered DI engine unfortunately. When you start looking into it, it does not limited to turbo cars and BMW. BMW just happens to sell more cars than others.

josephvman · 11-24-2011, 08:57 PM

Each replacement in my 335i was the "new" one, with different part numbers, but they all failed. If these things have fuel pump issues I'm getting rid of it and getting an M3 or 911.

RaihaX · 11-24-2011, 09:10 PM

not looking good

My HPFP was suppose to be replaced with the one in the 1M, was hoping that one was good!

AM1N · 11-24-2011, 09:16 PM

the inevitable has happened....this is a VERY VERY common thing with the N54's. good luck my friend. hopefully much of us don't have the same problem but i know some will

Robert · 11-24-2011, 09:36 PM

Given the limited production and by statistics of failure rate there shouldn't be more than a handful of 1M with this problem. Now one has surfaced it means less chance for rest of 1M owner to suffer from this issue

1SerieStud · 11-24-2011, 09:48 PM

Strange, given that the 1M comes with the latest iteration of the pump, which has been used in most replacements and virtually eliminated most HPFP issues. Many times my car starts so fast that the engine doesn't even turn over a full revolution before the car turns on.

Go get it checked out and keep us posted.

LofgrenCL · 11-25-2011, 03:28 AM

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Originally Posted by Riley1524

Not to rub it in, but this is why you don't buy a boosted BMW. It really sucks that you guys have to go through this especially with different models. BMW needs to get off their ass's and get this problem fixed. I can't imagine this being an issue with all the turbo'd models they'll have coming out next year

I normally do not typically respond and keep my opinions to myself, however..

This issue has more to do with just "Part Numbers" or "Turbo Models.." My wife took delivery of the first E89 3.5i Z4 (US Spec) in Stuttgart, back in May of 2009. This car still has the first edition of the HPFP!! She babies this car and it ONLY gets Esso 93/98 or Shell V100. To date we have had absolutely ZERO issues with the HPFP.

As result, I think this issue has much more to do with fuel type and quality as compared to just faulty parts. I am amazed to see people spend $50K+ on a vehicle, then shop around and put the lowest price (or cheapest) gas in it. The other cited possibility is the high sulfur content in US fuel.

In the end you get what you pay for.. (Crap in, crap out..)

My experience .. and my .02

The N54 is a great motor and has TONs of unrealized performance.

RaihaX · 11-25-2011, 04:45 AM

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Originally Posted by LofgrenCL

I normally do not typically respond and keep my opinions to myself, however..

This issue has more to do with just "Part Numbers" or "Turbo Models.." My wife took delivery of the first E89 3.5i Z4 (US Spec) in Stuttgart, back in May of 2009. This car still has the first edition of the HPFP!! She babies this car and it ONLY gets Esso 93/98 or Shell V100. To date we have had absolutely ZERO issues with the HPFP.

As result, I think this issue has much more to do with fuel type and quality as compared to just faulty parts. I am amazed to see people spend $50K+ on a vehicle, then shop around and put the lowest price (or cheapest) gas in it. The other cited possibility is the high sulfur content in US fuel.

In the end you get what you pay for.. (Crap in, crap out..)

My experience .. and my .02

The N54 is a great motor and has TONs of unrealized performance.

Not true.... I always put 98 octane (not sure if 98 in Australia is the same everywhere else...) in my car and I still had to replace my HPFP...

Jayda · 11-25-2011, 07:25 AM

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Originally Posted by LofgrenCL

I normally do not typically respond and keep my opinions to myself, however..

This issue has more to do with just "Part Numbers" or "Turbo Models.." My wife took delivery of the first E89 3.5i Z4 (US Spec) in Stuttgart, back in May of 2009. This car still has the first edition of the HPFP!! She babies this car and it ONLY gets Esso 93/98 or Shell V100. To date we have had absolutely ZERO issues with the HPFP.

As result, I think this issue has much more to do with fuel type and quality as compared to just faulty parts. I am amazed to see people spend $50K+ on a vehicle, then shop around and put the lowest price (or cheapest) gas in it. The other cited possibility is the high sulfur content in US fuel.

In the end you get what you pay for.. (Crap in, crap out..)

My experience .. and my .02

The N54 is a great motor and has TONs of unrealized performance.

I have a 2009 Z4 35i as well. No problems yet but the car is just over 5,000 miles. The original pump did not fail but was replaced in Feb 2011 with the recall (at about 3,500 miles). Always use Shell gas too! Hope the new 1m doesn't start having this issue. That would be pitiful if BMW hasn't gotten this issue right yet.

b33g33 · 11-25-2011, 08:50 AM

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Originally Posted by Jayda

I have a 2009 Z4 35i as well. No problems yet but the car is just over 5,000 miles. The original pump did not fail but was replaced in Feb 2011 with the recall (at about 3,500 miles). Always use Shell gas too! Hope the new 1m doesn't start having this issue. That would be pitiful if BMW hasn't gotten this issue right yet.

I thought BMW recommended BP in the US?

MusclezMarinara · 11-25-2011, 09:43 AM

ill buy your defective 1M

did you throw a code OP? Dealers hands are tied if you didnt throw a code just a FYI.

josephvman · 11-25-2011, 10:56 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by LofgrenCL

I normally do not typically respond and keep my opinions to myself, however..

This issue has more to do with just "Part Numbers" or "Turbo Models.." My wife took delivery of the first E89 3.5i Z4 (US Spec) in Stuttgart, back in May of 2009. This car still has the first edition of the HPFP!! She babies this car and it ONLY gets Esso 93/98 or Shell V100. To date we have had absolutely ZERO issues with the HPFP.

As result, I think this issue has much more to do with fuel type and quality as compared to just faulty parts. I am amazed to see people spend $50K+ on a vehicle, then shop around and put the lowest price (or cheapest) gas in it. The other cited possibility is the high sulfur content in US fuel.

In the end you get what you pay for.. (Crap in, crap out..)

My experience .. and my .02

The N54 is a great motor and has TONs of unrealized performance.

Your "opinion" is based on nothing more than an assumption that the people who are having failures are using cheap gas, which I can assure you isn't the issue in my case. I could say that the reason your wife has never had an issue is because she babies the car, but it would be an assumption based on a sample size of one, like your opinion, and would be just as meaningless...

M3 Adjuster · 11-25-2011, 12:34 PM

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Originally Posted by b33g33

I thought BMW recommended BP in the US?

they do... but as I understand.. BP is available in the midwest... not the southwest..

Purple88Gold · 11-25-2011, 01:01 PM

Now that you mention it, is there BP in SoCal? I only use Shell.

I'm getting ready to unload my E92 for this. Should I reconsider?

Jet Mech · 11-25-2011, 01:10 PM

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Originally Posted by b33g33

I thought BMW recommended BP in the US?

The BP gas in Florida and in Alabama has 10% Ethanol added...actully all gas stations i think in Florida and Alabama have 10% Ethanol added. All my cars run like crap when on that shit. Not sure if it effects the HPFP though. I wish they would get rid of Ethanol or only add it to the lower grade stuff...make it optional. Its not any good for the enviroment like the Politicians want you to believe.

Jayda · 11-25-2011, 01:44 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by b33g33

I thought BMW recommended BP in the US?

I have stock interest in Shell! I was told it is one of the recommended gas brands.

YVES1M · 11-25-2011, 03:38 PM

8000 km on my 1m, no problem!, i put the best gas in canada with is petro canada 94 octane.. Wish i was in europe to get 98 or 100 octane... Anyone sugest octane boosters..

HT1000 · 11-25-2011, 04:33 PM

There are many threads on N54/N55 HPFP failures. It's just a fact of life with these models.

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josephvman Private First Class 25 Rep 154 Posts Drives: 2011 1M Valencia Orange Join Date: Sep 2005 Location: TX iTrader: (0)	Uh oh...Fuel pump problem? My 1M has failed to start on the first press of the starter button three days in a row. This is exactly what my '07 335i coupe started doing before the fuel pump failed. That car went through three of them in 32k miles, and I suspect was soon to fail again when I sold it. BMW bumped the warranty on the pumps to 100k, little consolation when you're stuck on the side of the road. Has anyone here had a fuel pump failure on thei 1M?
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Riley1524 Captain 63 Rep 638 Posts Drives: A Slow Ass BMW Join Date: Feb 2011 Location: Atlanta, Ga. iTrader: (4)	Not to rub it in, but this is why you don't buy a boosted BMW. It really sucks that you guys have to go through this especially with different models. BMW needs to get off their ass's and get this problem fixed. I can't imagine this being an issue with all the turbo'd models they'll have coming out next year __________________ 2015 428i Coupe 2009 328i E93
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josephvman Private First Class 25 Rep 154 Posts Drives: 2011 1M Valencia Orange Join Date: Sep 2005 Location: TX iTrader: (0)	Each replacement in my 335i was the "new" one, with different part numbers, but they all failed. If these things have fuel pump issues I'm getting rid of it and getting an M3 or 911.
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RaihaX Major General 156 Rep 4,995 Posts Drives: 08' 135i Join Date: Aug 2008 Location: Australia, Perth iTrader: (2)	not looking good My HPFP was suppose to be replaced with the one in the 1M, was hoping that one was good!
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AM1N Private First Class 17 Rep 157 Posts Drives: VO 1M Join Date: Oct 2011 Location: North Jersey iTrader: (0)	the inevitable has happened....this is a VERY VERY common thing with the N54's. good luck my friend. hopefully much of us don't have the same problem but i know some will
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Robert Major General 417 Rep 6,968 Posts Drives: 135i -> is350 -> Tesla M3 perf Join Date: Aug 2005 Location: Socal iTrader: (1)	Given the limited production and by statistics of failure rate there shouldn't be more than a handful of 1M with this problem. Now one has surfaced it means less chance for rest of 1M owner to suffer from this issue __________________ - There's nothing in my pocket other than knives and lint
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1SerieStud Brigadier General 183 Rep 3,939 Posts Drives: '11 VO 1M (498 of 740) Join Date: Jul 2010 Location: Jacksonville, FL iTrader: (11)	Strange, given that the 1M comes with the latest iteration of the pump, which has been used in most replacements and virtually eliminated most HPFP issues. Many times my car starts so fast that the engine doesn't even turn over a full revolution before the car turns on. Go get it checked out and keep us posted.
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YVES1M Second Lieutenant 28 Rep 260 Posts Drives: 1m aw (kwv3) meisterschaf Join Date: Jan 2011 Location: montreal iTrader: (0)	8000 km on my 1m, no problem!, i put the best gas in canada with is petro canada 94 octane.. Wish i was in europe to get 98 or 100 octane... Anyone sugest octane boosters..
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HT1000 Private 0 Rep 64 Posts Drives: 330i Join Date: Nov 2011 Location: Owensboro iTrader: (0)	There are many threads on N54/N55 HPFP failures. It's just a fact of life with these models.
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