BMW Garage BMW Meets Register Today's Posts




 

Post Reply
 
Thread Tools Search this Thread
      01-11-2012, 08:04 PM   #1
bueller
First Lieutenant
Canada
174
Rep
310
Posts

Drives: 2018 EB F31 2018 LG F80
Join Date: Nov 2009
Location: Ontario

iTrader: (0)

Garage List
Shipping Damage / What to do...

Hey all...

I was wondering what other Enthusiasts feel is the right solution to the issue of my car which was damaged in transit.

I picked up my 1M today at my local dealership. I had opted for European delivery, which I highly recommend. Unfortunately during the shipping process some corrosive fluid (likely brake or hydraulic fluid) dripped onto the hood causing permanent damage to the clear coat on the hood. There are two marks, they look like bird poop, but are unfortunateley permanent.

To the dealership's credit, they made me aware of the issue and have assured me they will resolve the problem. As I see it, there are 3 solutions, first repaint the entire hood, secondly swap the hood with another alpine white car and lastly have the marks buffed and have the damage blown in.

My concern with swapping the hood is the serial number, which is stamped or marked on each major body component would no longer match, however the paint would be factory original.

What would you rather do?

B
Appreciate 0
      01-11-2012, 08:08 PM   #2
Simsims
Captain
Canada
37
Rep
615
Posts

Drives: 119/220
Join Date: Jul 2009
Location: Ottawa

iTrader: (0)

paint.

edit: nvm was thinking roof
__________________
VO 1M - everything except sunroof
RIP BSM 135i 2009-2011

Last edited by Simsims; 01-11-2012 at 09:35 PM..
Appreciate 0
      01-11-2012, 08:09 PM   #3
bayer
First Lieutenant
bayer's Avatar
United_States
16
Rep
316
Posts

Drives: 1M
Join Date: Jan 2011
Location: Michigan

iTrader: (0)

That's bad news, sorry to hear.

I'd go after the paint, not sure about the repair if that would every truly cover it or not.

Good Luck.
Appreciate 0
      01-11-2012, 08:15 PM   #4
HALOTHANE
First Lieutenant
HALOTHANE's Avatar
36
Rep
391
Posts

Drives: INTERLAGOS ZCP
Join Date: Jun 2011
Location: Anywhere fast

iTrader: (0)

Garage List
Don't change the hood. Paint it. Otherwise the resale value will be adversely affected. They can remove the hood, electralytically paint it, and bake it an oven to achieve the factory finish.
Appreciate 0
      01-12-2012, 12:51 AM   #5
bueller
First Lieutenant
Canada
174
Rep
310
Posts

Drives: 2018 EB F31 2018 LG F80
Join Date: Nov 2009
Location: Ontario

iTrader: (0)

Garage List
Thanks for the suggestions...

Sounds like paint is the way to go. Painting anything on a brand new car makes me cringe!

Anyone have any recommendations for Southern Ontario?

B
Appreciate 0
      01-12-2012, 06:28 AM   #6
david.orr
Lieutenant Colonel
Australia
123
Rep
1,852
Posts

Drives: Cars
Join Date: Aug 2011
Location: Australia

iTrader: (0)

Respray. You wouldn't think twice about it in time but just admiring the whole car
Appreciate 0
      01-12-2012, 06:47 AM   #7
pinmagic
The Only Sane One Here
pinmagic's Avatar
United_States
61
Rep
1,135
Posts

Drives: 135i Convertible
Join Date: Jun 2010
Location: Arlington, VA

iTrader: (1)

Quote:
Originally Posted by bueller View Post
Sounds like paint is the way to go. Painting anything on a brand new car makes me cringe!

Anyone have any recommendations for Southern Ontario?

B
I'd let the dealer choose (with your approval) - that way, they're on the hook for the quality of the job. If you choose, they could deny responsibility for a lousy job.
__________________
2011 135i VERT SGM/SB/MOONLIGHT - ED - with every single friggin' option they offered.
Appreciate 0
      01-12-2012, 09:25 AM   #8
P1
Lieutenant General
P1's Avatar
11569
Rep
11,136
Posts

Drives: 2004 3/4 ton Duramax
Join Date: Aug 2007
Location: United States

iTrader: (1)

Mate, how about you have the area WETSANDED first and see if that takes care of the mark. That might be the safest option here rather than already having your bonnet be repainted right off the bat.
Appreciate 0
      01-12-2012, 09:42 AM   #9
James T. Kirk
Captain of the Enterprise
James T. Kirk's Avatar
United_States
101
Rep
1,424
Posts

Drives: 2011 1 Series M Coupe
Join Date: Nov 2010
Location: Alpha Quadrant, Sector 001

iTrader: (0)

Try compound first. If no good, then paint.

It's not the same as painting after a declared accident that'll reflect on your Carfax. No one will ever care.
.
__________________

2011 1 Series M Coupe VO M3 vs 1M Comparo Review
2011 M3 E90 DCT ZCP (sold) * 2010 335i Sedan (sold)
2005 M3 Convertible (sold) * 2003 325i Sedan (sold)
Appreciate 0
      01-12-2012, 09:45 AM   #10
gkmunch
Private First Class
18
Rep
138
Posts

Drives: 2016 340i
Join Date: Sep 2011
Location: Buffalo, NY

iTrader: (0)

I vote for paint. It's a part they can completely remove and respray the entire thing. No blending required. Plus it's a new car so it should match flawlessly.
Appreciate 0
      01-12-2012, 11:52 AM   #11
Amnizu
First Lieutenant
20
Rep
325
Posts

Drives: 502 of 740
Join Date: May 2010
Location: Seattle

iTrader: (0)

What Kirk and P1et said. Compound on heavy cut foam pad, then moving up to wool rotary. If that does not get it then wet sand. If that does not get it, or lowers the level of the clear coat too much then re-spray. Most US auto repair shops will re-spary due to environmental laws, if you can find a shop that offers electrostatic painting jump at it!
Appreciate 0
      01-12-2012, 11:58 AM   #12
JimD
Brigadier General
JimD's Avatar
368
Rep
3,547
Posts

Drives: 128i convertible
Join Date: Apr 2009
Location: Lexington, SC

iTrader: (0)

I believe only the primer is electrostatically applied and I see no reason they need to strip to bare metal. I would think scuff sanding, possibly a layer of sealer, then paint and clear coat. But I agree that the dealer should propose what and where and you should agree unless you have a strong objection. I would think they would want to paint.

Jim
__________________
128i Convertible, MT, Alpine White, Black Top, Taupe Leatherette, Walnut, Sport
Ordered 5/22/09, Completed 6/4/09, At Port 6/9/09, On the Georgia Highway 6/13/09, Ship Arrived Charleston 6/24/09 at 10pm, PCD 7/21/09
Appreciate 0
      01-12-2012, 12:02 PM   #13
RaptorKTM
Colonel
RaptorKTM's Avatar
United_States
236
Rep
2,366
Posts

Drives: 1 M Coupe
Join Date: Apr 2006
Location: San Diego

iTrader: (1)

Garage List
2011 BMW 1 M  [0.00]
I would do as others are suggesting. A wet sand could fix the issue. My boy at Lucci Elite just did this. Look at this link, or call him tell him Waleed mentioned to call and see what he says. Phone number is (949) 436-0837 http://www.luxury4play.com/detailing...cci-elite.html
Appreciate 0
      01-12-2012, 12:14 PM   #14
Dackelone
European Editor
Dackelone's Avatar
Germany
10539
Rep
22,992
Posts

Drives: N54 e82
Join Date: Feb 2010
Location: Bayern, Germany

iTrader: (1)

Have the hood painted. Take it to an expert body shop, one the specializes in high end cars. Maybe they can fix it by wetsanding the area. IF not painting the hood will be required.

Btw... when I toured Leipzig Werk, in the paint shop they allow their paint expert's as much time as they need - to make paint corrections. They use a small wool-like buffer pads(2 inch dia, pneumatic powered) to polish out any paint imperfections. And after they are done - they do not clear coat that area! The tour guide said it is not needed. Something special about the (ceramic)paint I think. I rememebr one Vert that had all these dots around the hood(to mark areas that needed work). The guy down in the paint shop would just work on each area (one by one) to get it perfect! It was very artistic to watch these guys at work.
Appreciate 0
      01-12-2012, 12:37 PM   #15
bueller
First Lieutenant
Canada
174
Rep
310
Posts

Drives: 2018 EB F31 2018 LG F80
Join Date: Nov 2009
Location: Ontario

iTrader: (0)

Garage List
Combo Solution...

I think that P1et's wet sanding solution is a great idea, if they can wet sand the damage, as the fluid burnt through the clear coat, polishing down to the base coat on the entire hood, then reapplying the clear coat, that might maintain the integrity of the color.

The problem with letting the dealer do it, is that, in my experience anyway, their goal is 'acceptable' while my goal is 'perfect'. Acceptable and perfect usually are priced differently. I would rather pay for perfect than settle for acceptable.

Thanks for everyones input, it has been really helpful!

B
Appreciate 0
      01-12-2012, 01:02 PM   #16
Lexington
Lieutenant
Lexington's Avatar
53
Rep
404
Posts

Drives: 2008 135i Blue Water
Join Date: May 2008
Location: South Carolina

iTrader: (0)

I would have thought BMW would have taken care of this at thier vehicle distribution center when the car came in from Europe unless they didn't notice it.
__________________
Appreciate 0
      01-12-2012, 01:10 PM   #17
discoboy1
Lieutenant Colonel
discoboy1's Avatar
Canada
121
Rep
1,555
Posts

Drives: E82 1M VO/F30 328D
Join Date: Mar 2005
Location: Montreal

iTrader: (3)

If there are no serial number tags on the hood, myself I would ask they swap it with an other new 1 series. OEM paint will always be better than a repaint.
__________________
2011 E82 1M VO
2013 F84 35i VO
Appreciate 0
      01-12-2012, 01:26 PM   #18
VMRWheels
General
VMRWheels's Avatar
2038
Rep
25,989
Posts

Drives: BMW
Join Date: Jun 2007
Location: Anaheim, CA

iTrader: (4)

Garage List
2013 BMW M3  [10.00]
2015 BMW M4  [0.00]
2013 BMW F30  [0.00]
2014 BMW F22  [0.00]
2013 BMW F06  [0.00]
Hmm... That's a tough call. I think since the car is so new, getting the paint code and having the hood resprayed could be an option that works, however there's always the off chance that it just never comes out looking as clean. On the other hand, swapping the hood ensures a perfect match.
__________________
Appreciate 0
      01-12-2012, 01:51 PM   #19
1VOM
Private
5
Rep
82
Posts

Drives: 2011 1M, 2014 R8 V10 Plus
Join Date: May 2011
Location: United States

iTrader: (0)

Having been in a situation much like yours when I took delivery of my VO 1M I highly recommend having the hood repainted. I received my car with an large dent in the roof and a good amount of paint missing. This was the shipping companies fault but the dealership I took it to was able to match the paint perfectly (the second time). If you take anything from this post my ONE piece of advice is this: Do NOT under any circumstances accept your car from the dealership after the hood has been painted unless it is a sunny day and take with you a pair of polarized sunglasses to inspect the paint job. The first time I went to pick up my car everything looked amazing until I inspected the paint with sunglasses and it was completely visible where the sanding and blocking and repainting had occurred. It was due to the fact that the only company that currently produces this color paint uses a water based primer therefore it did not blend into the existing paint properly. The second time around they got it right and I couldn't be happier with the results. Even I cannot tell anything ever happened to the roof. I wish you the best and with all that being said AW should be much easier to match than VO or BSM.
Appreciate 0
      01-12-2012, 01:53 PM   #20
1VOM
Private
5
Rep
82
Posts

Drives: 2011 1M, 2014 R8 V10 Plus
Join Date: May 2011
Location: United States

iTrader: (0)

Whoever is at fault obviously must pay for the damage so make clear you won't accept the car unless it is perfect. That is how you left it in their care and that is how you expect it returned to you. After all thats why they have insurance.
Appreciate 0
      01-12-2012, 02:03 PM   #21
Dackelone
European Editor
Dackelone's Avatar
Germany
10539
Rep
22,992
Posts

Drives: N54 e82
Join Date: Feb 2010
Location: Bayern, Germany

iTrader: (1)

OP - who ever you take your car too, make sure they garanty their work for say four or five years. Often times, the repair area will look Ok - but a year or two down the road... the clear coat light spider-web or start peel off. It's standard practice for German body shops to garranty their work for five years. Also when you go to pick up the car... sometimes it helps pulling the car under fluorescent lighting(like inside most repair shops/dealers). Have a car buddy also come with you to inspect the final paint repair... because four eyes are better than TWO!
Appreciate 0
      01-12-2012, 04:02 PM   #22
blotto649
Private First Class
blotto649's Avatar
Canada
16
Rep
137
Posts

Drives: '04 996 GT3/'88 911 Carrera
Join Date: Nov 2010
Location: Between Toronto and Ottawa

iTrader: (0)

OP, I feel your pain. I would stress to the dealer that you will accept nothing shy of a flawless repair, and let them decide how to approach it. Dealers often have a rep from whatever body shop they deal with that can come down and look at the car at the dealership.

Can't help you with any recommended shops in the Belleville area, but if they give you the option to go where you want, European Auto Body in Etobicoke is owned by the Maranello Group (Maranello BMW) and it's where you'd take your Ferrari to get repaired.
Appreciate 0
Post Reply

Bookmarks


Posting Rules
You may not post new threads
You may not post replies
You may not post attachments
You may not edit your posts

BB code is On
Smilies are On
[IMG] code is On
HTML code is Off



All times are GMT -5. The time now is 04:15 AM.




1addicts
Powered by vBulletin® Version 3.8.11
Copyright ©2000 - 2024, vBulletin Solutions Inc.
1Addicts.com, BIMMERPOST.com, E90Post.com, F30Post.com, M3Post.com, ZPost.com, 5Post.com, 6Post.com, 7Post.com, XBimmers.com logo and trademark are properties of BIMMERPOST