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TESLAASTRO · 09-27-2007, 02:38 PM

Anyone care to speculate on what the 0-60 time will be on the 135?....I'm really hoping for 5.0 or slightly sub 5.0.....my original logic was since the 135 is a couple of hundred LBS lighter than the 335 coupe, it should be equal to, or maybe slightly better than, the 4.8 R&T listed in 8/07 magazine....Then again, I also heard from some that they may "detune"(whatever that means) the 135 so it's not as fast as the 335....

your thoughts please....this is important stuff to me and a major factor in which car i intend to purchase next year...thanks

1ster · 09-27-2007, 02:41 PM

I think 4.6-4.8 is a good guess. Some of it will come down to gearing and available traction. Regardless: it will be damn fast.

joelk · 09-27-2007, 02:52 PM

i have not seen _one_ shred of evidence that the 135i will be de-tuned relative to the 335i. not one. yet some love to speculate as such without any evidence. yeah it annoys me. they point to the lack of dual pipes all the way down but that makes no sense because one large pipe (as photos appear to indicate) is less resistive than two smaller pipes.

okay off my soap box.

anyway my guess is nearly identical to the 335i in straight line. as 1ster said it all comes down to gearing so i suppose someone could look those up and simulate it.

atr_hugo · 09-27-2007, 03:19 PM

AFAIK Joel the manny tranny's final drive is the same for the 135 and 335. Comes down to weight and contact patch. : -)

ShifterKart · 09-27-2007, 03:47 PM

My guess is 4.7 manual (with good driver) and 4.9 automatic.

kurichan · 09-27-2007, 04:41 PM

Based on what we know, I think that with a lower final drive and mild ECU tuning, you should be able to hit 4 second 0-60's, which is about as fast as mere mortals really need to go...

Vornado · 09-27-2007, 05:01 PM

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Originally Posted by Shifter Kart

My guess is 4.7 manual (with good driver) and 4.9 automatic.

Auto's are faster than manuals these days. I would say an average between the those two numbers. But 0-60 is useless. I want to know how fast it will go from 50-70, etc.

335i=:) · 09-27-2007, 05:25 PM

My best was 4.87 stock. I'll vote for 4.75-4.8123456789

BMWeber · 09-27-2007, 05:51 PM

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Originally Posted by Vornado

Auto's are faster than manuals these days. I would say an average between the those two numbers. But 0-60 is useless. I want to know how fast it will go from 50-70, etc.

ummm that's not a very accurate statement. the only car I can think of that makes that statement true is a 911 twin turbo and even then you just talking about drag racing from a stand still. 50-70 what are you a truck driver:smile:

mateo · 09-27-2007, 06:31 PM

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Originally Posted by BMWeber

50-70 what are you a truck driver:smile:

TESLAASTRO · 09-27-2007, 06:50 PM

0-60 to me is a benchmark i like to use to compare with other vehicles....top end speed is useless to me since i rarely drive over 90 here in morally bankrupt S FL.....you get caught driving fast here youre in big trouble.....Nevertheless, I love the thrill of accelerating with my back pinned to the seat.....exhilerating....

ShifterKart · 09-27-2007, 06:55 PM

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Originally Posted by Vornado

Auto's are faster than manuals these days. I would say an average between the those two numbers. But 0-60 is useless. I want to know how fast it will go from 50-70, etc.

Actually it depends on gearing? Either can be faster but using the gearing from the 335, the two cars should be very close. The problem is the driver, most drivers cannot get everything out of a manual transmission car while the auto is fairly easy to post an impressive number. According to BMW their autos are slower:

http://www.bmwusa.com/vehicles/3/335icoupe/techdata.htm
5.3 - 335i Manual
5.5 - 335i Automatic

While Car and Driver got identical times:

http://www.caranddriver.com/roadtest...ons-page5.html

http://www.caranddriver.com/roadtest...ecs-page4.html

4.9 - 335i Manual
4.9 - 335i Automatic

Note: These are not back to back tests. Atmospheric and track conditions are most likely different.

TESLAASTRO · 09-27-2007, 07:15 PM

according to the C&D price as tested for the 335 coupe at 45k+, it states the premium package consists of Homelink,auto dimming R/V mirror,compass, lumbar support for $2450!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! Please tell me they left something out like, uh, leather?.....that's an awful lot of $s for a few insignificant goodies......

BMWeber · 09-27-2007, 07:24 PM

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Originally Posted by TESLAASTRO

according to the C&D price as tested for the 335 coupe at 45k+, it states the premium package consists of Homelink,auto dimming R/V mirror,compass, lumbar support for $2450!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! Please tell me they left something out like, uh, leather?.....that's an awful lot of $s for a few insignificant goodies......

the big ticket items in the premium package is the power seats, leather and bluetooth

Euro Durch Tod · 09-27-2007, 07:32 PM

being that the 1 series is just under 100lbs lighter it should be pretty close to the 335i. 1/4 miles times will prolly have a bit more of a difference but Id say its safe to assume itll be just slightly faster than the 335, long as everythin remains basically the same.

imported_BMWRULES · 09-28-2007, 08:55 AM

This is right out of the BMWUSA site. They have their own 1 series webpage now ..

" For the 135i Coupe, acceleration from 0-62 mph is accomplished in 5.3 seconds and top speed is electronically limited to 155 mph"

Euro Durch Tod · 09-28-2007, 10:45 AM

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Originally Posted by BMWRULES

This is right out of the BMWUSA site. They have their own 1 series webpage now ..

" For the 135i Coupe, acceleration from 0-62 mph is accomplished in 5.3 seconds and top speed is electronically limited to 155 mph"

Only problem is bmw always quotes their cars slower than they are for wutever reason. The 335 was like .7 seconds faster i think, which is ALOT, 0-60 speakin!!

Dr. No · 09-28-2007, 11:05 AM

Official specifications from BMW rates the 335i to hit 100 km/h (62 mph) in 5.5 secs. Official BMW specs for that car in acceleration from 0 to 60 mph is 5.3, 0.2 secs below.

I think that official acceleration for the 135i form 0 to 60 mph will be of about 5.1 secs. Don't you agree?

joelk · 09-28-2007, 11:23 AM

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Originally Posted by Euro Durch Tod

Only problem is bmw always quotes their cars slower than they are for wutever reason. The 335 was like .7 seconds faster i think, which is ALOT, 0-60 speakin!!

not only that, 60 does not equal 62

imported_BMWRULES · 09-28-2007, 12:54 PM

I agree ... a buddy of mine drives the 335i and he thinks its 4.9 - 5.1 (depending on the driver) for that car. So i think for the 135 it should be lower than the 335i (same engine, less weight)...

what do u guys say?

imported_MPower · 09-28-2007, 03:39 PM

I wouldnt expect much difference between 335i and 135i. At most two tenths, but the limiting factor will be the 135i's narrower rear tires.

TESLAASTRO · 09-28-2007, 03:44 PM

I'm curious(and lazy)....what are the rear tire dimensions of the 135....I'm guessing 225-45-18?

09-27-2007, 02:38 PM	#1
TESLAASTRO DE STIJL Drives: Join Date: Sep 2007 Posts: 494 iTrader: (0)	0-60 135 opinion Anyone care to speculate on what the 0-60 time will be on the 135?....I'm really hoping for 5.0 or slightly sub 5.0.....my original logic was since the 135 is a couple of hundred LBS lighter than the 335 coupe, it should be equal to, or maybe slightly better than, the 4.8 R&T listed in 8/07 magazine....Then again, I also heard from some that they may "detune"(whatever that means) the 135 so it's not as fast as the 335.... your thoughts please....this is important stuff to me and a major factor in which car i intend to purchase next year...thanks
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09-27-2007, 02:41 PM	#2
1ster Large Member Drives: Join Date: Aug 2007 Posts: 939 iTrader: (0)	I think 4.6-4.8 is a good guess. Some of it will come down to gearing and available traction. Regardless: it will be damn fast.

09-27-2007, 02:52 PM	#3
joelk Lieutenant Colonel Drives: Space Gray E90 M3 Join Date: Mar 2007 Location: Atlanta Posts: 1,682 iTrader: (0)	i have not seen _one_ shred of evidence that the 135i will be de-tuned relative to the 335i. not one. yet some love to speculate as such without any evidence. yeah it annoys me. they point to the lack of dual pipes all the way down but that makes no sense because one large pipe (as photos appear to indicate) is less resistive than two smaller pipes. okay off my soap box. anyway my guess is nearly identical to the 335i in straight line. as 1ster said it all comes down to gearing so i suppose someone could look those up and simulate it.

09-27-2007, 03:19 PM	#4
atr_hugo No longer moderate Drives: SWB 335i Join Date: Jun 2007 Location: - Posts: 4,248 iTrader: (0)	AFAIK Joel the manny tranny's final drive is the same for the 135 and 335. Comes down to weight and contact patch. : -)

09-27-2007, 03:47 PM	#5
ShifterKart Private First Class Drives: 2011 MR/BB E92 M3 Join Date: Jul 2006 Location: Tucson, AZ Posts: 117 iTrader: (0)	My guess is 4.7 manual (with good driver) and 4.9 automatic.

09-27-2007, 04:41 PM	#6
kurichan Mr. Happy Drives: Join Date: Aug 2007 Posts: 479 iTrader: (0)	Based on what we know, I think that with a lower final drive and mild ECU tuning, you should be able to hit 4 second 0-60's, which is about as fast as mere mortals really need to go...

09-27-2007, 05:25 PM	#8
335i=:) Second Lieutenant Drives: 335i sedan-blk/blk-Poplar Join Date: Oct 2006 Location: utah Posts: 290 iTrader: (0)	My best was 4.87 stock. I'll vote for 4.75-4.8123456789

09-27-2007, 06:50 PM	#11
TESLAASTRO DE STIJL Drives: Join Date: Sep 2007 Posts: 494 iTrader: (0)	0-60 to me is a benchmark i like to use to compare with other vehicles....top end speed is useless to me since i rarely drive over 90 here in morally bankrupt S FL.....you get caught driving fast here youre in big trouble.....Nevertheless, I love the thrill of accelerating with my back pinned to the seat.....exhilerating....

09-27-2007, 07:15 PM	#13
TESLAASTRO DE STIJL Drives: Join Date: Sep 2007 Posts: 494 iTrader: (0)	according to the C&D price as tested for the 335 coupe at 45k+, it states the premium package consists of Homelink,auto dimming R/V mirror,compass, lumbar support for $2450!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! Please tell me they left something out like, uh, leather?.....that's an awful lot of $s for a few insignificant goodies......

09-27-2007, 07:32 PM	#15
Euro Durch Tod Private First Class Drives: mustang Join Date: Dec 2007 Location: ny Posts: 106 iTrader: (0)	being that the 1 series is just under 100lbs lighter it should be pretty close to the 335i. 1/4 miles times will prolly have a bit more of a difference but Id say its safe to assume itll be just slightly faster than the 335, long as everythin remains basically the same.

09-28-2007, 08:55 AM	#16
imported_BMWRULES New Member Drives: Join Date: Sep 2007 Posts: 7 iTrader: (0)	This is right out of the BMWUSA site. They have their own 1 series webpage now .. " For the 135i Coupe, acceleration from 0-62 mph is accomplished in 5.3 seconds and top speed is electronically limited to 155 mph"

09-28-2007, 11:05 AM	#18
Dr. No Private Drives: Join Date: Sep 2007 Posts: 90 iTrader: (0)	Official specifications from BMW rates the 335i to hit 100 km/h (62 mph) in 5.5 secs. Official BMW specs for that car in acceleration from 0 to 60 mph is 5.3, 0.2 secs below. I think that official acceleration for the 135i form 0 to 60 mph will be of about 5.1 secs. Don't you agree?

09-28-2007, 12:54 PM	#20
imported_BMWRULES New Member Drives: Join Date: Sep 2007 Posts: 7 iTrader: (0)	I agree ... a buddy of mine drives the 335i and he thinks its 4.9 - 5.1 (depending on the driver) for that car. So i think for the 135 it should be lower than the 335i (same engine, less weight)... what do u guys say?

09-28-2007, 03:44 PM	#22
TESLAASTRO DE STIJL Drives: Join Date: Sep 2007 Posts: 494 iTrader: (0)	I'm curious(and lazy)....what are the rear tire dimensions of the 135....I'm guessing 225-45-18?