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      12-15-2007, 07:03 PM   #1
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OFFICIAL BMW EUROPEAN DELIVERY prices for the 1 Series!!!

I just received the ED prices for the 1 series.
Below are the prices:

Bmw 135i=$32,455
Bmw 128i=$26,600
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      12-15-2007, 07:18 PM   #2
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Are those MSRP prices?
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      12-15-2007, 07:23 PM   #3
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Yes atr, the prices do not include Destination and Handling. You have to add $775 to the prices above.
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      12-15-2007, 07:25 PM   #4
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Those must be MSRPs. My estimate was about right on, as I used the 328 coupe prices as a guide.

ED invoice for the 135i should be around $29,535.
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      12-15-2007, 07:41 PM   #5
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Awesome post Smokey!!!!
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      12-15-2007, 08:13 PM   #6
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Yep, take the base MSRP x .93 and round to the closest number, just like the rest of the models...

Thanks for the confirmation though, I was affraid it wouldnt be x .93 since its an entry model...
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      12-16-2007, 01:35 PM   #7
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Can you do this on a lease? Also how does BMW not lose a ton of money on this? They still have to ship the car from Europe to the city you live in....
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Can you do this on a lease? Also how does BMW not lose a ton of money on this? They still have to ship the car from Europe to the city you live in....
Yes, and BMW will cover your 2nd lease payment (since the car in in transit for re-delivery).

I think it's just old-school marketing, trying to create customers for life. Whatever $$ is ceded in providing the ED service will be made back a few times over on subsequent sales.
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      12-16-2007, 02:00 PM   #9
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Those must be MSRPs. My estimate was about right on, as I used the 328 coupe prices as a guide.

ED invoice for the 135i should be around $29,535.
Yup thats about right. :w00t: To figure out invoice on the options: Option price - 9% (roughly) = invoice.
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      12-16-2007, 02:30 PM   #10
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Those must be MSRPs. My estimate was about right on, as I used the 328 coupe prices as a guide.

ED invoice for the 135i should be around $29,535.
+1. ED invoice = .91 ED MSRP.
If you can bargain at $1k over ED invoice, you'll probably get very good price of 135 with options.
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Yes, and BMW will cover your 2nd lease payment (since the car in in transit for re-delivery).

I think it's just old-school marketing, trying to create customers for life. Whatever $$ is ceded in providing the ED service will be made back a few times over on subsequent sales.
Keep in mind with ED BMW AG bypasses BMW NA aka the middle man. This is where the savings come from.
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      12-16-2007, 03:33 PM   #12
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no.

Not at all. The savings comes from the fact the car will be imported as a used car saving BMW a ton of taxes/tariffs instead of importing it as a new car. The savings is passed to us.
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      12-16-2007, 03:42 PM   #13
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Keep in mind with ED BMW AG bypasses BMW NA aka the middle man. This is where the savings come from.
This is closer to reality.Since the cars are billed out before you pick them up,they are new,not used.As long as they're not coming out of the dealers allocation,BMW offers the savings to maintain brand loyalty.Bottom line is in most cases,you're buying the car under dealer cost,doesn't really matter how you get to the number,as long as you're happy with the price...
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Not at all. The savings comes from the fact the car will be imported as a used car saving BMW a ton of taxes/tariffs instead of importing it as a new car. The savings is passed to us.
incorrect.

The savings are not a result of different taxes or duties, as many people speculate. The duty on an imported car, whether new or used, is 2.5% of the declared value. In other words, duty makes up about $1000-$1500 of the price a 3-series BMW. Any reduction in value because it is used would not significantly change the amount of duty. Even a full exemption would not fully account for the price savings of ED.

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      12-16-2007, 06:12 PM   #15
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Can you do this on a lease? Also how does BMW not lose a ton of money on this? They still have to ship the car from Europe to the city you live in....
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Yes, and BMW will cover your 2nd lease payment (since the car in in transit for re-delivery).

I think it's just old-school marketing, trying to create customers for life. Whatever $$ is ceded in providing the ED service will be made back a few times over on subsequent sales.
One reason they don't lose a ton of money on this is that the number of ED's is miniscule compared to the overall number of cars they sell for U.S. delivery. cracka is right on target with his assessment.
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Please be aware that ED leases add .0003 to the lease rate... It adds up, and that "free month" gets recouped by them.. just spread out over the term of the lease.
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      12-16-2007, 06:59 PM   #17
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Not at all. The savings comes from the fact the car will be imported as a used car saving BMW a ton of taxes/tariffs instead of importing it as a new car. The savings is passed to us.
Where did u get that from? If you dont know then why make assumptions? I would know a little about this since I did ED for the last 5 years........
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Please be aware that ED leases add .0003 to the lease rate... It adds up, and that "free month" gets recouped by them.. just spread out over the term of the lease.
^ Seriously?

I was not aware of this...

I'll probably finance, but wow...
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      12-17-2007, 08:58 AM   #19
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So to figure out the ED Invoice price just take the ED MSRP, add the options and multiply the total by 0.91?

That would make the 135 I built (priced US MSRP $39,525) come to ED Invoice $32,243 + Destination ($775) + Dealer Profit (est $1200) = $34,218.

Is that correct?

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So to figure out the ED Invoice price just take the ED MSRP, add the options and multiply the total by 0.91?

That would make the 135 I built (priced US MSRP $39,525) come to ED Invoice $32,243 + Destination ($775) + Dealer Profit (est $1200) = $34,218.

Is that correct?

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no, the options don't cost 9% less.

u multiply the msrp by .91 and then add on the features.

after that, remember to add destination and local taxes.
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no, the options don't cost 9% less.
u multiply the msrp by .91 and then add on the features.
after that, remember to add destination and local taxes.
I was reducing the options by 9% to get to the invoice price of the options per this post:
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Yup thats about right. :w00t: To figure out invoice on the options: Option price - 9% (roughly) = invoice.
If I do not go to the invoice price of the options then I am looking at an ED Invoice price of $29,535 for the car plus $2975 in options plus $775 Destination totalling $33,285. Is this a more accurate ED Invoice price then?
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I was reducing the options by 9% to get to the invoice price of the options per this post:


If I do not go to the invoice price of the options then I am looking at an ED Invoice price of $29,535 for the car plus $2975 in options plus $775 Destination totalling $33,285. Is this a more accurate ED Invoice price then?
It's probably close to the ED invoice price, but the ED invoice price is moot, unless you're doing an ED in a couple years from now. These things are going to be selling for close to sticker price for quite a while.
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