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ClownCarFan · 03-07-2008, 06:47 PM

Not sure if this has been discussed before, and I did try

:. Is there any plans to have a BMW performance electric car in future in lines of Tesla roadster.

They sure have hydrogen as alternative clean energy powerplant but not sure if it will fit in a small sporty package. Any thoughts

Jewpac · 03-07-2008, 06:50 PM

I think BMW has maily focused on Hydrigen powered cars, I havent heard or read anything regarding an electric Bimmer.

Nixon · 03-07-2008, 07:53 PM

There was a bit of buzz on leftlanenews about a possible electric BMW earlier this year:

"While BMW is working on its fuel-cell technology, Jochen Schmalholz, head of BMW's clean-energy technology, told Drive that BMW is considering electric vehicles to fill the 15 to 20 year void before hydrogen vehicles will actually be practical. BMW has even predicted that hydrogen cars could still be 30 years out."

http://www.leftlanenews.com/bmw-to-p...ctric-car.html

I can't see this coming anytime soon to the US, considering that they can't even manage to bring the 123d here. BMW will be at the back of the pack when it comes to leadership and innovation in electric cars.

Other than that, BMW tested their E2 electric prototypes in the 90's when they faced California mandates, but the E2 died at the same time GM's EV1 was killed. No big loss, since they weren't ready for prime time back then.

ClownCarFan · 03-07-2008, 08:02 PM

Thanks for the article Nixon.

From the article:

”We will only bring this if it makes sense,” he says. “At the moment we are not really convinced it will work for BMW. But if it makes commercial sense and it makes sense to our customers, then we will do it.”

I think it will make perfect sense when the oil has already reached record high.

Whats the deal with diesel though, is it the emission regulations. Sorry for ignorance, i am pretty newbie in CarTech

Nixon · 03-07-2008, 08:22 PM

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Originally Posted by ClownCarFan

Whats the deal with diesel though, is it the emission regulations. Sorry for ignorance, i am pretty newbie in CarTech

We're all pretty clueless about what BMW's deal is with deciding not to import the 123d. It is expected to meet the EPA Tier 2 Bin 5 CARB emissions requirements based upon it's European test results, so emissions may not be an issue. It could be marketing is holding it back. It could be that the low dollar makes inexpensive cars not worth it for BMW to import to the US. We just don't know. For all we know, BMW could be planning on building them at their US factory once they complete their planned 100,000 unit/year increase in capacity. Who knows? We haven't been told anything official at all about anything regarding the 123d in the US.

atr_hugo · 03-07-2008, 08:32 PM

What I heard was that they wanted to be able to bring diesels into all markets, which they will in the '09 MY. For what it's worth, one of the BMW types I talked in Chicago has had some decent seat time in a 123d - they like it a lot. I'm hoping it hits in '10 at least.

mdynamics · 03-07-2008, 09:45 PM

BMW Goes Green with Electric "City" Car

We know BMW has been putting quite an attempt to revive its renowned “bubble car” Isetta, probably either under the same badge Isetta or the classic British badge Triumph. We also know that BMW announced last September that there would be a separate fourth brand under the Munich-based manufacturer. Earlier reports said that BMW was indeed developing a low-emissions vehicle under this fourth brand rivaling the upcoming Audi A1 or possibly the VW Up, with several different models to be positioned just below the Mini.

Just yesterday Motor Authority reported of BMW not looking into having advanced technologies such as hybrid for this mini car, but instead was opting for small yet high-performing turbo petrol and diesel engines, mainly for economy and environmental reasons.

On the other hand, word comes today that BMW is seeking alternative fuel or power systems, which they think would be more appropriate for a car designed for town use. An EV or electric vehicle as we know it is rumoured to be in development, to fill in the 15 to 20 year gap before hydrogen fuel or fuel cell road cars becomes reality. Yet again, emissions regulations are causing profound impacts on automakers these days, and BMW is finally answering the call with a more practical solution; an electric city car.
Source: LeftLaneNews

Looks sporty and nimble, I like it

ClownCarFan · 03-07-2008, 10:20 PM

:w00t: thats what i want. a plugin sporty electric car with solar charging stations. we may reduce or eliminate the need for oil. Hopefully more car makers take interest in this and reduce the production cost. Hmmm.... wishful thinking

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Nixon Banned Drives: : Join Date: Jul 2007 Location: : Posts: 1,396 iTrader: (0)	There was a bit of buzz on leftlanenews about a possible electric BMW earlier this year: "While BMW is working on its fuel-cell technology, Jochen Schmalholz, head of BMW's clean-energy technology, told Drive that BMW is considering electric vehicles to fill the 15 to 20 year void before hydrogen vehicles will actually be practical. BMW has even predicted that hydrogen cars could still be 30 years out." http://www.leftlanenews.com/bmw-to-p...ctric-car.html I can't see this coming anytime soon to the US, considering that they can't even manage to bring the 123d here. BMW will be at the back of the pack when it comes to leadership and innovation in electric cars. Other than that, BMW tested their E2 electric prototypes in the 90's when they faced California mandates, but the E2 died at the same time GM's EV1 was killed. No big loss, since they weren't ready for prime time back then.

03-07-2008, 08:02 PM	#4
ClownCarFan New Member Drives: Join Date: Mar 2008 Posts: 12 iTrader: (0)	Thanks for the article Nixon. From the article: ”We will only bring this if it makes sense,” he says. “At the moment we are not really convinced it will work for BMW. But if it makes commercial sense and it makes sense to our customers, then we will do it.” I think it will make perfect sense when the oil has already reached record high. Whats the deal with diesel though, is it the emission regulations. Sorry for ignorance, i am pretty newbie in CarTech

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atr_hugo No longer moderate Drives: SWB 335i Join Date: Jun 2007 Location: - Posts: 4,248 iTrader: (0)	What I heard was that they wanted to be able to bring diesels into all markets, which they will in the '09 MY. For what it's worth, one of the BMW types I talked in Chicago has had some decent seat time in a 123d - they like it a lot. I'm hoping it hits in '10 at least.

03-07-2008, 09:45 PM	#7
mdynamics Private Drives: E92 M3, X3 & 325e Join Date: Jul 2008 Location: CT Posts: 97 iTrader: (0)	BMW Goes Green with Electric "City" Car We know BMW has been putting quite an attempt to revive its renowned “bubble car” Isetta, probably either under the same badge Isetta or the classic British badge Triumph. We also know that BMW announced last September that there would be a separate fourth brand under the Munich-based manufacturer. Earlier reports said that BMW was indeed developing a low-emissions vehicle under this fourth brand rivaling the upcoming Audi A1 or possibly the VW Up, with several different models to be positioned just below the Mini. Just yesterday Motor Authority reported of BMW not looking into having advanced technologies such as hybrid for this mini car, but instead was opting for small yet high-performing turbo petrol and diesel engines, mainly for economy and environmental reasons. On the other hand, word comes today that BMW is seeking alternative fuel or power systems, which they think would be more appropriate for a car designed for town use. An EV or electric vehicle as we know it is rumoured to be in development, to fill in the 15 to 20 year gap before hydrogen fuel or fuel cell road cars becomes reality. Yet again, emissions regulations are causing profound impacts on automakers these days, and BMW is finally answering the call with a more practical solution; an electric city car. Source: LeftLaneNews Looks sporty and nimble, I like it

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ClownCarFan New Member Drives: Join Date: Mar 2008 Posts: 12 iTrader: (0)	:w00t: thats what i want. a plugin sporty electric car with solar charging stations. we may reduce or eliminate the need for oil. Hopefully more car makers take interest in this and reduce the production cost. Hmmm.... wishful thinking