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      03-11-2008, 09:52 AM   #1
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"And despite the lousy weather conditions, we still managed to pull off several honest-to-goodness 5.2-second runs to 60 mph, even on damp, 34-degree roads. We're confident we can break the five-second barrier easily."



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      03-11-2008, 10:15 AM   #2
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Great post, thank you!:thumbup:
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      03-11-2008, 10:45 AM   #3
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"And despite the lousy weather conditions, we still managed to pull off several honest-to-goodness 5.2-second runs to 60 mph, even on damp, 34-degree roads. We're confident we can break the five-second barrier easily."
Not necessarily 'easily' I'm guessing. While grip levels are lower on damp cold roads, turbos LOVE cold air. They may be disappointed on 94F degree day in august with 80% humidity. I'm betting the tradeoff is zero sum: more grip is offset by lot's less boost...
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      03-11-2008, 11:43 AM   #5
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Probably so. Mod wise Bryan says they would change the wheels and tires (ditch the run flats) and the exhaust with the hope of losing a hundred pounds.
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What does this actually mean? Sorry for being stupid but i thought it had 306 hp. 279.4 horsepower and 295 lb-ft of torque at the wheels
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      03-11-2008, 11:59 AM   #7
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Nice find. Thanx.
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What does this actually mean? Sorry for being stupid but i thought it had 306 hp. 279.4 horsepower and 295 lb-ft of torque at the wheels
stop asking questions and go post photographs of your new car!!! :wink:
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What does this actually mean? Sorry for being stupid but i thought it had 306 hp. 279.4 horsepower and 295 lb-ft of torque at the wheels

This is what thier dyno measured at the wheels. Car manufacturers measure hp at the crank of the engine. So you have losses through the drivetrain to the wheel.
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This is what thier dyno measured at the wheels. Car manufacturers measure hp at the crank of the engine. So you have losses through the drivetrain to the wheel.
usually there is 15% loss from the crack to the wheels
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Is that on every car this happens then??
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      03-11-2008, 12:19 PM   #12
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Is that on every car this happens then??

Yes, this is common.
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      03-11-2008, 12:21 PM   #13
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cool....you learn something new every day...
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      03-11-2008, 12:29 PM   #14
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that is funny joelk - that did make me laugh out loud, sorry as explained i cannot as i have not got access to my camera
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TP i would be really interested to hear your thoughts on the comparison of the cayman S you have and the 135i when you get to drive it. I hope you will be doing a comparison review
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Probably so. Mod wise Bryan says they would change the wheels and tires (ditch the run flats) and the exhaust with the hope of losing a hundred pounds.
Anyone know if there is room for a donut under the trunk floor, should you want to ditch the run flats. Hate driving around without a spare...
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Is that on every car this happens then??
yes... All manufactures quote HP at the crank but all modded cars are dynoed at the wheel (~-15%)... Its important to remember when looking at mods... Different tuners like to quote using different methods of quoting gains... Just be aware of it and make sure you are comparing apples with apples.
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Anyone know if there is room for a donut under the trunk floor, should you want to ditch the run flats. Hate driving around without a spare...
spare = weight = decease performance = bad

It probably comes with some sort of emergency kit, if not I would add one with an electric compressor and a can of fix-it... If you have to use the fix-it make sure you get the inside of the tire cleaned when you get the hole fixed.
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Anyone know if there is room for a donut under the trunk floor, should you want to ditch the run flats. Hate driving around without a spare...
AFAIK, there is no space under the floor board. The battery and some other goodies are under there, so no space for a spare.
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