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and 1 · 09-02-2008, 12:11 PM

pardon the noob question, but what's the best/most accurate way to find out your car's build date? there must be some sticker/ID somewhere, right?

EDIT:
i saw a post about an ecu sticker...so V8.0 = pre 3/08 build & V8.1 = post 3/08 build, correct? anyone have a picture?

Monaco35Dream · 09-02-2008, 12:12 PM

inside the drivers door there is a black sticker with the month and year of production...

edit: well not actually inside of the door, but when you open it...lol just thought id clear that up

lannypoffo · 09-12-2008, 04:23 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by 135iPSU

could you still use the JB1 if you have a car post 3/8/08?

i do... pretty sure im a 4/08 build date. ive had JB1 for a couple weeks.

Minicobra1 · 09-18-2008, 03:41 AM

Wanted to subcribe to this thread, haven't purchased my 135i yet, but plan on doing some mods to it, not sure if I should order new or purchase a pre-owned earlier build version. :iono:
Any updates or ideas?

Braden

Monaco35Dream · 09-18-2008, 03:55 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Minicobra1

Wanted to subcribe to this thread, haven't purchased my 135i yet, but plan on doing some mods to it, not sure if I should order new or purchase a pre-owned earlier build version. :iono:
Any updates or ideas?

Braden

order new and get what you want...they have found ways to tune un-detected for post 3/08 productions for a while now...ive had sstt for about 2 months now, and shes still running strong.

Minicobra1 · 09-18-2008, 04:53 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Monaco35Dream

order new and get what you want...they have found ways to tune un-detected for post 3/08 productions for a while now...ive had sstt for about 2 months now, and shes still running strong.

Thanks Monaco, I'll look into that :smile: I'm not familiar with SSTT, did you have your car done there, or is it a DIY installation ??
Website?

thanks!!

Braden

karma8 · 09-24-2008, 03:20 PM

mine is build on 06/2008 so is it a sure NO to get a ecu flash for me then?

mikeo · 09-24-2008, 04:36 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by karma8

mine is build on 06/2008 so is it a sure NO to get a ecu flash for me then?

Time has passed since my original post and most tuners including Dinan, Vishnu, and BMS have developed tunes that are ECU v81 'friendly' (spelled i-n-v-i-s-a-b-l-e).

Noize · 09-24-2008, 04:40 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by mikeo

Time has passed since my original post and most tuners including Dinan, Vishnu, and BMS have developed tunes that are ECU v81 'friendly' (spelled i-n-v-i-s-a-b-l-e).

You sure on that spelling, mikeo?

mikeo · 09-24-2008, 04:46 PM

Us'd to was i cudn't evn spel moderater, now i r' one ;-)

karma8 · 09-24-2008, 11:24 PM

lol so does it mean when i go tune it ....the tuning shop would knwo wt to do? they are profressional just for BMWs ...they should knwo right lol....that's the think about tuning....i'll wont' knwo wt they have done....all i can do is trust.......since this is my first tuneable car.....

mikeo · 09-25-2008, 06:41 AM

karma8, you need to do your due diligence in order to inform yourself. First talk to or read up on the tunes available from Dinan, Vishnu, and Burger Motor Sports. Then, if you plan on having a shop do the install, research which shops in your area have done the tune you prefer. Try to talk to other cutomers of the local shop that got the same tune you are considering.

karma8 · 09-25-2008, 12:29 PM

True...thx....i checked they tune a lot of 335is which they should knwo about the v81 as well....i'll talk to them b4 i let the do anything.....for safty.....but since it's a free tune....if they really F it up....who's ass should i kick?

crzy4135i · 09-25-2008, 07:36 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by karma8

True...thx....i checked they tune a lot of 335is which they should knwo about the v81 as well....i'll talk to them b4 i let the do anything.....for safty.....but since it's a free tune....if they really F it up....who's ass should i kick?

whew.... please tell me you're typing on a cellphone.

karma8 · 09-29-2008, 09:01 PM

yea...iphone

sbefar01 · 11-25-2008, 04:46 PM

So is the JB2/3 detectable to the dealer (even if removed) on the V81 ECU?

Zinister · 12-05-2008, 01:26 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by sbefar01

So is the JB2/3 detectable to the dealer (even if removed) on the V81 ECU?

I would like to know as well.

WhiteOne · 12-05-2008, 07:15 PM

The only way the dealer will know it is on there is if they dismantle your car and physically look for it. Set correctly it should be invisible. You can remove it for dealer service if you are really worried. JMHO

Zinister · 12-05-2008, 08:24 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by WhiteOne

The only way the dealer will know it is on there is if they dismantle your car and physically look for it. Set correctly it should be invisible. You can remove it for dealer service if you are really worried. JMHO

I'm just worried that it might be detectable if they hook up to the scanner (DIS) and are able to tell if there was something there on the V81 software.

crzy4135i · 12-06-2008, 06:57 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Zinister

I'm just worried that it might be detectable if they hook up to the scanner (DIS) and are able to tell if there was something there on the V81 software.

We'll have to wait until someone's turbos blow and the dealer really looks hard for evidence of piggybacks. I would be afraid they could record some type of evidence from the ecu during scheduled service but not tell you until you try to have something major repaired under warranty, a couple years down the road.

I realize people on here are saying piggybacks can't be detected but not one person is so confident they've offered to pay for repairs if the dealer (or bmw) does have a way to detect them.

The good thing is the cars are over engineered and the turbos seem to be holding up pretty well running such high boost.

Zuzu · 12-06-2008, 04:32 PM

I had the ECU upgrade and left the JB3 in and it went undetected.

takahashi · 12-28-2008, 01:48 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Zuzu

I had the ECU upgrade and left the JB3 in and it went undetected.

During most time they only look at the flash code, VIN code and error codes from the ECU. They will not look at the map installed by the tuner unless they download them and analysis it.

I challenge any dealer to compare the map from stock to tuner and try to find out differences.

Start from the boost number

. The higher the difference the easier to spot

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mikeo Santa Fe Concorso Drives: '09 335d, '13 X1 sDrive28i Join Date: Jul 2007 Location: Santa Fe, NM Posts: 2,936 iTrader: (3)	karma8, you need to do your due diligence in order to inform yourself. First talk to or read up on the tunes available from Dinan, Vishnu, and Burger Motor Sports. Then, if you plan on having a shop do the install, research which shops in your area have done the tune you prefer. Try to talk to other cutomers of the local shop that got the same tune you are considering. __________________ The Southwest's Premier Automotive Gathering.

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Zuzu Major General Drives: VO 1M Beast Join Date: Mar 2008 Location: SyDnEy Oz Posts: 6,975 iTrader: (0)	I had the ECU upgrade and left the JB3 in and it went undetected. __________________ COBB tune ... ETS FMIC ... aFe CAI ... Meisterschaft GT exhaust ... BM OCC ... H&R springs :

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Monaco35Dream Captain Drives: 08' 135i, 96' Talon Tsi AWD Join Date: May 2008 Location: Santa Maria, CA Posts: 647 iTrader: (1) Garage List 2008 135i [0.00]	inside the drivers door there is a black sticker with the month and year of production... edit: well not actually inside of the door, but when you open it...lol just thought id clear that up

09-24-2008, 03:20 PM	#95
karma8 Private First Class Drives: Join Date: Aug 2008 Posts: 182 iTrader: (0)	mine is build on 06/2008 so is it a sure NO to get a ecu flash for me then?

09-24-2008, 11:24 PM	#99
karma8 Private First Class Drives: Join Date: Aug 2008 Posts: 182 iTrader: (0)	lol so does it mean when i go tune it ....the tuning shop would knwo wt to do? they are profressional just for BMWs ...they should knwo right lol....that's the think about tuning....i'll wont' knwo wt they have done....all i can do is trust.......since this is my first tuneable car.....

09-25-2008, 12:29 PM	#101
karma8 Private First Class Drives: Join Date: Aug 2008 Posts: 182 iTrader: (0)	True...thx....i checked they tune a lot of 335is which they should knwo about the v81 as well....i'll talk to them b4 i let the do anything.....for safty.....but since it's a free tune....if they really F it up....who's ass should i kick?

09-29-2008, 09:01 PM	#103
karma8 Private First Class Drives: Join Date: Aug 2008 Posts: 182 iTrader: (0)	yea...iphone

11-25-2008, 04:46 PM	#104
sbefar01 First Lieutenant Drives: 1er Join Date: Nov 2007 Location: NJ Posts: 331 iTrader: (0)	So is the JB2/3 detectable to the dealer (even if removed) on the V81 ECU?

12-05-2008, 07:15 PM	#106
WhiteOne Major Drives: 2008 AW 135i Join Date: Dec 2007 Location: Alabama Posts: 1,000 iTrader: (0)	The only way the dealer will know it is on there is if they dismantle your car and physically look for it. Set correctly it should be invisible. You can remove it for dealer service if you are really worried. JMHO

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