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      09-02-2008, 12:11 PM   #89
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pardon the noob question, but what's the best/most accurate way to find out your car's build date? there must be some sticker/ID somewhere, right?

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i saw a post about an ecu sticker...so V8.0 = pre 3/08 build & V8.1 = post 3/08 build, correct? anyone have a picture?
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      09-02-2008, 12:12 PM   #90
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inside the drivers door there is a black sticker with the month and year of production...

edit: well not actually inside of the door, but when you open it...lol just thought id clear that up
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      09-12-2008, 04:23 PM   #91
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could you still use the JB1 if you have a car post 3/8/08?
i do... pretty sure im a 4/08 build date. ive had JB1 for a couple weeks.
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      09-18-2008, 03:41 AM   #92
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Wanted to subcribe to this thread, haven't purchased my 135i yet, but plan on doing some mods to it, not sure if I should order new or purchase a pre-owned earlier build version. :iono:
Any updates or ideas?

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Wanted to subcribe to this thread, haven't purchased my 135i yet, but plan on doing some mods to it, not sure if I should order new or purchase a pre-owned earlier build version. :iono:
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order new and get what you want...they have found ways to tune un-detected for post 3/08 productions for a while now...ive had sstt for about 2 months now, and shes still running strong.
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      09-18-2008, 04:53 AM   #94
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order new and get what you want...they have found ways to tune un-detected for post 3/08 productions for a while now...ive had sstt for about 2 months now, and shes still running strong.
Thanks Monaco, I'll look into that :smile: I'm not familiar with SSTT, did you have your car done there, or is it a DIY installation ??
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      09-24-2008, 03:20 PM   #95
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mine is build on 06/2008 so is it a sure NO to get a ecu flash for me then?
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      09-24-2008, 04:36 PM   #96
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mine is build on 06/2008 so is it a sure NO to get a ecu flash for me then?
Time has passed since my original post and most tuners including Dinan, Vishnu, and BMS have developed tunes that are ECU v81 'friendly' (spelled i-n-v-i-s-a-b-l-e).
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      09-24-2008, 04:40 PM   #97
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Time has passed since my original post and most tuners including Dinan, Vishnu, and BMS have developed tunes that are ECU v81 'friendly' (spelled i-n-v-i-s-a-b-l-e).
You sure on that spelling, mikeo?
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      09-24-2008, 04:46 PM   #98
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      09-24-2008, 11:24 PM   #99
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lol so does it mean when i go tune it ....the tuning shop would knwo wt to do? they are profressional just for BMWs ...they should knwo right lol....that's the think about tuning....i'll wont' knwo wt they have done....all i can do is trust.......since this is my first tuneable car.....
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      09-25-2008, 06:41 AM   #100
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karma8, you need to do your due diligence in order to inform yourself. First talk to or read up on the tunes available from Dinan, Vishnu, and Burger Motor Sports. Then, if you plan on having a shop do the install, research which shops in your area have done the tune you prefer. Try to talk to other cutomers of the local shop that got the same tune you are considering.
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      09-25-2008, 12:29 PM   #101
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True...thx....i checked they tune a lot of 335is which they should knwo about the v81 as well....i'll talk to them b4 i let the do anything.....for safty.....but since it's a free tune....if they really F it up....who's ass should i kick?
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      09-25-2008, 07:36 PM   #102
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True...thx....i checked they tune a lot of 335is which they should knwo about the v81 as well....i'll talk to them b4 i let the do anything.....for safty.....but since it's a free tune....if they really F it up....who's ass should i kick?
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      09-29-2008, 09:01 PM   #103
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So is the JB2/3 detectable to the dealer (even if removed) on the V81 ECU?
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So is the JB2/3 detectable to the dealer (even if removed) on the V81 ECU?
I would like to know as well.
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The only way the dealer will know it is on there is if they dismantle your car and physically look for it. Set correctly it should be invisible. You can remove it for dealer service if you are really worried. JMHO
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The only way the dealer will know it is on there is if they dismantle your car and physically look for it. Set correctly it should be invisible. You can remove it for dealer service if you are really worried. JMHO
I'm just worried that it might be detectable if they hook up to the scanner (DIS) and are able to tell if there was something there on the V81 software.
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      12-06-2008, 06:57 AM   #108
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I'm just worried that it might be detectable if they hook up to the scanner (DIS) and are able to tell if there was something there on the V81 software.
We'll have to wait until someone's turbos blow and the dealer really looks hard for evidence of piggybacks. I would be afraid they could record some type of evidence from the ecu during scheduled service but not tell you until you try to have something major repaired under warranty, a couple years down the road.

I realize people on here are saying piggybacks can't be detected but not one person is so confident they've offered to pay for repairs if the dealer (or bmw) does have a way to detect them.

The good thing is the cars are over engineered and the turbos seem to be holding up pretty well running such high boost.
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I had the ECU upgrade and left the JB3 in and it went undetected.
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I had the ECU upgrade and left the JB3 in and it went undetected.
During most time they only look at the flash code, VIN code and error codes from the ECU. They will not look at the map installed by the tuner unless they download them and analysis it.

I challenge any dealer to compare the map from stock to tuner and try to find out differences.

Start from the boost number . The higher the difference the easier to spot
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