Ask a dealer

[dbtheo]

Originally Posted by structure

I recently test drove the 135i and 128i at Rally BMW (Old Westbuy,NY) and fell in love with the 135i. I want to lease the car. I want to put down $5000 and be somewhere in the $425-450 range. As I was speaking with the salesman, he said "If that's what you want, you should wait till mid October. The rates should go down for the 135i around that time. Because right now, (he looked in his book), you would be in the $475 range for 2 years - 10k. The rates for the 128i are around 1.6% and the 135i is around 2.7%. It's high right now because it's a first year production."

*Is that true? - and when should I purchase my car?*

I don't know how seriously he took me since I'm 25 (I look 19) and didn't really have a check in hand. I felt like the salesman was just going through the motions and not working with me. Rally dealerships are sorta high end. People on Long Island buy cars from them just to have the lil Rally Dealership badge on the back of their car.

I need some more info than this. Pm specifics to me, msrp of the car, tax % miles etc etc

[dbtheo]

Originally Posted by SF_VR6

Here are the facts:

I went back and forth over email with my CA and he agreed to sell the car to me at a certain price over invoice. However we did not have time to get an "Out-the-door-price", but agreed it would be a certain price over invoice.

I placed the order over the phone and he asked for my credit card deposit. He has the list of options I wanted from the emails.
He never charged my card but I realize this is not a big deal.

It gets into the system and I get a production number days later.
I'm still anxious at this point because I do not know "exactly" what I will be paying for.

I meet him in person two weeks later just to solidify the deal further and in hopes to get an actual price of some sort in writing. He informs me that it will be BMWs invoice from the factory. He was very nonchalantly about this and wasn't deceptive. He did however gave me my order print out with my name, production number and my options, though I did not get a price on paper.

I have been tracking "my" car for the last couple of weeks. It should be at the dealer within the next two weeks.

- Is there anything I should be worried about that risks the deal falling through?

- Can I trust that his invoice price will match my research?

- Price over invoice, does that mean invoice price of each of the options as well? This is my assumption.

any advice greatly appreciated.

:iono:

seems pretty straighforward to me. Basically ask him to print out a wholesale/resale form for you. It will show the msrp vs. invoice. Then just add the appropriate amount. He can't manipulate the invoice, it is what it is from BMW. Dont worry about the cc being charged, sometimes we just simply forget to charge it

[SF_VR6]

Originally Posted by dbtheo

seems pretty straighforward to me. Basically ask him to print out a wholesale/resale form for you. It will show the msrp vs. invoice. Then just add the appropriate amount. He can't manipulate the invoice, it is what it is from BMW. Dont worry about the cc being charged, sometimes we just simply forget to charge it

What about the options and packages, I should be paying invoice on this as well correct?

base car invoice + options/packages invoice + agreed price over invoice.

What does 600 over invoice mean to a Dealer?

thanks again.

[dbtheo]

Originally Posted by SF_VR6

What about the options and packages, I should be paying invoice on this as well correct?

base car invoice + options/packages invoice + agreed price over invoice.

What does 600 over invoice mean to a Dealer?

thanks again.

If you get the sheet I told you about, it will show the invoice pricing on all options side by side with msrp.

Whatever the bottow number on the left is your invoice plus $600 in your case

[Steve135i]

WHEN WILL THE 2009 135i PRICES AND OPTIONS COME OUT.

[dbtheo]

Originally Posted by Steve135i

WHEN WILL THE 2009 135i PRICES AND OPTIONS COME OUT.

hopefully any day now. If I get them before someone else, I'll definately post em' up. But I know there are some guys here who get stuff waayyy before me

[Steve135i]

THANKYOU VERY MUCH.

[Alow]

David,

First of all, thank you for taking the time to answer our questions here. I really appreciate it.

I plan to order a 128 soon. I want to do a performance center delivery and drive it back to Kansas City for the road trip. However, I don't want to risk my baby without a clear bra. So, if I take delivery at the performance center, can they install things like a clear bra before I take delivery? Also, if I purchase some performance parts :roundel: from you (nice prices btw) could we get them there and have them install them as well before I take delivery?

Thanks in advance.

[dbtheo]

Originally Posted by Alow

David,

First of all, thank you for taking the time to answer our questions here. I really appreciate it.

I plan to order a 128 soon. I want to do a performance center delivery and drive it back to Kansas City for the road trip. However, I don't want to risk my baby without a clear bra. So, if I take delivery at the performance center, can they install things like a clear bra before I take delivery? Also, if I purchase some performance parts :roundel: from you (nice prices btw) could we get them there and have them install them as well before I take delivery?

Thanks in advance.

Let me call down today, I'll post up later

[backtoreality15]

dbtheo, I have purchased a Valentine 1 Radar Detector. I am planning to tap into a switched wire behind the overhead lighting console & hardwire it. Does this void my warranty? My cousin who used to do car audio work said it might, but I would really like to have a neat hardwire set-up for my detector...

[dbtheo]

Originally Posted by backtoreality15

dbtheo, I have purchased a Valentine 1 Radar Detector. I am planning to tap into a switched wire behind the overhead lighting console & hardwire it. Does this void my warranty? My cousin who used to do car audio work said it might, but I would really like to have a neat hardwire set-up for my detector...

nah we do that stuff all the time here... your dealer will probably do it for you

[blackonyx]

I just ordered a MY2009 128 and received a production number from my CA. It's been exactly a week now but it's still not showing up on the BMW Owner's web site when I put in my production number. Even though it won't go into production until September, should it at least be in the system?

[smoke20]

Is there an option in the US to order the 135i 'without description'...AKA debadged??

Thanks

[aitsu]

Any news whether or not the 135 will see DCT in 09 like the 335?

[jkp1187]

Originally Posted by dbtheo

anything I would guess is just speculation on my part. My sales manager was guessing 3%

Oh, don't say that....I almost have myself convinced that I can afford a 135i....

[ulrichd]

Originally Posted by onyx

I just ordered a MY2009 128 and received a production number from my CA. It's been exactly a week now but it's still not showing up on the BMW Owner's web site when I put in my production number. Even though it won't go into production until September, should it at least be in the system?

Same here. I guess the 09s are not tracking yet. The factory shuts down 2 weeks in August to switch over to 09 production. Could be a few weeks yet.

[Cris]

Originally Posted by smoke20

Is there an option in the US to order the 135i 'without description'...AKA debadged??

Thanks

Yes, it's option 320 - No Model Designator.

[smoke20]

Originally Posted by Cris

Yes, it's option 320 - No Model Designator.

Thanks, Cris.

[mikeo]

Option 320 is a German option, not US.

[dbtheo]

Originally Posted by Alow

David,

First of all, thank you for taking the time to answer our questions here. I really appreciate it.

I plan to order a 128 soon. I want to do a performance center delivery and drive it back to Kansas City for the road trip. However, I don't want to risk my baby without a clear bra. So, if I take delivery at the performance center, can they install things like a clear bra before I take delivery? Also, if I purchase some performance parts :roundel: from you (nice prices btw) could we get them there and have them install them as well before I take delivery?

Thanks in advance.

sorry for the delay, end of month is always a busy time.

Ok, in answer to your question, yes accesories can be installed at the pcd in advance. Your client adivsor (or me) has to pre-order & get it set up in adavance. Obiviously there may be some additional labor costs incurred.

[dbtheo]

Originally Posted by onyx

I just ordered a MY2009 128 and received a production number from my CA. It's been exactly a week now but it's still not showing up on the BMW Owner's web site when I put in my production number. Even though it won't go into production until September, should it at least be in the system?

I wouldn't be worried. If he gave you an actual production number, you are in good shape. All will be well soon:smile:

[dbtheo]

Originally Posted by jkp1187

Oh, don't say that....I almost have myself convinced that I can afford a 135i....

personally I don't think it will be that much.... but truthfully I do not know...