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[dbtheo]

Originally Posted by instalher

with the last 7 digits of my 128i can i get a birth certifiate of what my car came with and what its wired for from factroy.. i bought my car off a lot used and think they took out some of the factory gear.. like the sirrus box and the bluetooth box..

yes, I might be able to get it, send me the #

[crbalch]

Can someone please let me know when production week 44 is? I know that my car is supposed to be built then, but I dont know if it follows the same as calendar weeks...any help would be appreciated!

[dicker]

it's the same as calander weeks. That's the first week of Nov.

[crbalch]

Originally Posted by dicker

it's the same as calander weeks. That's the first week of Nov.

thanks, hopefully i get pulled forward a week...

[bayer]

On the subject of winter storage, lots of varied opinions when I search old threads:

From my owners manual:

Vehicle storage
If your vehicle is to be decommissioned for
longer than three months, your BMW center or
a workshop that operates according to BMW
specifications will be glad to advise you.

What advise do you have? I plan to store my 1M for winter, I would prefer to remove the battery, but have heard that is bad (no trunk key access, possible fault codes, etc). So I bought the BMW battery tender. The garage is not heated and drops below freezing, still would rather remove it like I have done for years with my E46 3er.

Whats everyone's opinion on Stabil? Never used in my 3er which I have stored for 4 winters with just a full tank of premium. Always seems fine in the spring?

Appreciate anyone's thoughts, especially on the battery!

[Dano135i]

I ordered my car back in September for PCD. My scheduled delivery is November 29th. I was told I'd be going back to my dealer about 2-3 weeks prior. My question is, if there are better rates available by the time I go in for my final paperwork, will I be able to take advantage of those? I know BMW sometimes gives holiday cash offers as well, would I be able to get that as well? I initially ordered the car as a lease, but I'm considering switching to finance of they have good rates in November. Is any of this possible or am I locked into the rate of September and a lease? Thanks.

[N2Nalgas]

Was told that BMW of Manhattan is the only BMW owned dealership in USA, is this true?
All others are privately owned?

Any advantages in buying from a BMW owned dealership vs private dealership?

[N2Nalgas]

??

[N2Nalgas]

yes? no?

[jgerber]

Does the current "mission to drive" rebate apply to cars ordered during this period, or only to cars on the lot?

[teamTN99]

Is Montego Blue still an available option?

[doublevanosrc]

In for update to N2Nalgas questions.

[CL 19]

Hey, I just wondering about the car. I know that it is still fresh from the internet and we don't have the real cars in states right now. But does anyone has an approximation for 135is coupe with DCT and everything except for nav?

Thanks, just wondering though. Appreciate it.

[N2Nalgas]

Never got the answer regarding the BMW dealer thingy majig....still waiting.


New question: Saw that we might be getting a 135i coupe in AWD flavor?
Would love to know when that might be, I would deff switch over from my current RWD 135i coupe.

[N2Nalgas]

Got it, thx

[micosilver]

Originally Posted by N2Nalgas

Never got the answer regarding the BMW dealer thingy majig....still waiting.


New question: Saw that we might be getting a 135i coupe in AWD flavor?
Would love to know when that might be, I would deff switch over from my current RWD 135i coupe.

2013 ordering guide does not show AWD version, only 135i Coupe andConvertible and 135is Coupe and Convertible.

[micosilver]

Originally Posted by carlolesmana

Hey, I just wondering about the car. I know that it is still fresh from the internet and we don't have the real cars in states right now. But does anyone has an approximation for 135is coupe with DCT and everything except for nav?

Thanks, just wondering though. Appreciate it.

Base price for 135is coupe will be 43,250 vs. 39,300 for 135i.

[fj58]

(If this has been asked before I cannot find it and apologize for the WOB.)

I am searching for a specific configuration for my wife and have found several 2012s listed by dealers as "used" (generally in the 1k/mi range).

The first question is: Can they be leased through BMWFS? The answer is yes (a buddy did it). What I don't know are the guidelines.

Although residual values and money factors are easily found for "new" vehicles, are they the same for "used?" Is the capital cost based on original MSRP or? Are there any other considerations (max miles, etc.)?

I asked this of BMWFS and they basically said "ask the dealer!"

TIA

[pinkertonpunk]

My wife and I are going to order a 135is but we are currently still in a 3 year lease. We want to wait as long as possible to order it so we can get through as much of the lease as possible. The problem is that we don't want to miss out on ordering one. Will the dealers know ahead of time when the orders need to be in by? Don't want to miss out!

Thanks!

[thehalcyon]

Hi all,

I've been shopping around locally for a 135i with the options I want. There doesn't seem to be any cars with the setup I'm after in all of Canada. I asked the dealer how long it would take for a custom build and he said the earliest would be a production start for FEB and to expect it no earlier than late March.

Is this accurate or is this a dealer tactic to sell me a car that's on his lot.

Thanks,

Ed

[fj58]

Bump.

Originally Posted by fj58

(If this has been asked before I cannot find it and apologize for the WOB.)

I am searching for a specific configuration for my wife and have found several 2012s listed by dealers as "used" (generally in the 1k/mi range).

The first question is: Can they be leased through BMWFS? The answer is yes (a buddy did it). What I don't know are the guidelines.

Although residual values and money factors are easily found for "new" vehicles, are they the same for "used?" Is the capital cost based on original MSRP or? Are there any other considerations (max miles, etc.)?

I asked this of BMWFS and they basically said "ask the dealer!"

TIA

[bradleyland]

Originally Posted by fj58

(If this has been asked before I cannot find it and apologize for the WOB.)

I am searching for a specific configuration for my wife and have found several 2012s listed by dealers as "used" (generally in the 1k/mi range).

The first question is: Can they be leased through BMWFS? The answer is yes (a buddy did it). What I don't know are the guidelines.

Although residual values and money factors are easily found for "new" vehicles, are they the same for "used?" Is the capital cost based on original MSRP or? Are there any other considerations (max miles, etc.)?

I asked this of BMWFS and they basically said "ask the dealer!"

TIA

Leases are calculated using the same mathematical formula, regardless of whether the car is new or used.

Residual values are based on depreciation schedules that are determined by the financing agency; although, it's worth noting that the dealer can "mark up" any of these terms, so watch out. Only they can provide this number. The depreciation for common purchases can be found online, but used is going to be much harder to find.

Capital cost is capital cost, plain and simpmle. It's the current purchase price of the car, not the original. When you lease a car, the lease financing company actually buys the car from the seller and writes them a check, so that's why it's the current cost, not the original.

You really are going to have to "ask the dealer" (or "a" dealer), because only they can get the "inputs" for the lease formula.

If you want to understand the math behind a lease, Lease Guide has an excellent monthly lease payment formula explanation. Here's a quick run down. When you lease, you're dealing with the following terms:

Term - The length of time you want to use the car

Depreciation - The difference between the current value of the car and the anticipated value at the end of the lease term

Finance fee - The fee you will pay the financing company to borrow the money (remember, they actually buy the car from the seller)

Leasing is basically pre-negotiating the sale of your car at the future date you agree to sell it, then financing the difference. The current value, anticipated value, and finance fee are all negotiable, so don't be afraid to ask for improvement on each of those terms. Go to the dealer and have them work up the financing on a car you like. If you understand the math behind a lease, you'll get a lot more credibility with the finance department, and may get a better deal as a result.

I know you're not asking for it, but I would advise against leasing a used car. Interest rates on leases are typically worse than purchases, even with great credit. Interest rates on used cars are worse than new cars, so you've compounded two scenarios where your financing terms are going to be crap. I love leasing. I lease every car I buy, because I have no intention of keeping them past 3 years, even if I bought them. However, I have great credit, and I'm not afraid to beat the hell out of the finance department because of it.

Do not underestimate the impact of a bad finance rate on a deal. Even if you mange to negotiate the depreciation well, a bad finance rate can kill the deal in a hurry.