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jdmitr22 · 08-14-2008, 03:11 PM

Does anyone kno if the 335 and 135 share the same rear diff? if so shouldnt the Quaife LSD for the 335 work?

http://www.**********s.com/product.a...LSD_BMW_E92_BL

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mikeo · 08-14-2008, 03:19 PM

Outside of the final drive ratio, they are a little different. 1-Series uses fancy helical bearings and less lube capacity because of the lower friction/heat due to the bearings.

Randall41 · 08-14-2008, 03:20 PM

In the August '08 article written by Ralph Warren, he mentions getting their LSD from Diffs on Line.

Robert · 08-14-2008, 04:44 PM

^ Who's Ralph Warren?

larryn · 08-14-2008, 07:35 PM

Ralph Warren drive thes car that Scottn2retro writes about (as well as the Crevier M3 Club Racer)

http://www.1addicts.com/forums/showthread.php?t=8162

Btw, a Quaife will likely not work on our cars, if it's a welded ring gear diff, which there are reports of ours being welded. You'd likely then have to buy an entire new diff, including the housing.

BerkTechnology · 08-14-2008, 07:48 PM

Yep, we all have welded ring gears....

Unoid · 08-16-2008, 01:01 PM

NO LSD? lol what was bmw thinking?

M3_Dust · 08-16-2008, 01:06 PM

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Originally Posted by Unoid

NO LSD? lol what was bmw thinking?

they were thinking that your car is not an ///M :iono:

WhiteOne · 08-16-2008, 02:02 PM

Unless they weld it after they put it into the housing, I do not see why it will not come out. Someone will make an affordable LSD conversion for our cars but it might take a while. Lets all start bugging Quaiffe.

larryn · 08-16-2008, 02:14 PM

335i diffs are welded too, and they have to replace the entire housing. I do think they are either welded in place, or the pressed in bearings lock it in there (good luck replacing those).

We're lucky, in sorts, that the 335i folk paved the way for us. They found the answers to questions like these already. (good or not)

jdmitr22 · 08-18-2008, 01:03 PM

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Originally Posted by larryn

335i diffs are welded too, and they have to replace the entire housing. I do think they are either welded in place, or the pressed in bearings lock it in there (good luck replacing those).

SOME of the 335 diffs were welded, not all. Turnermotorsports sells a LSD for the 335, or you can do the whole diff swap with a low milage used rear diff. I wonder if this would swap into the 135?

http://www.turnermotorsport.com/html...=100-100-00008

Robert · 08-18-2008, 01:14 PM

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Originally Posted by rdottj22

SOME of the 335 diffs were welded, not all. Turnermotorsports sells a LSD for the 335, or you can do the whole diff swap with a low milage used rear diff. I wonder if this would swap into the 135?

http://www.turnermotorsport.com/html...=100-100-00008

The ones not wielded are from the early production. With oldest E81 still being newer than newest 3 series, chances are ours are wielded, but I welcome good news that it's not. Someone please look into this.

jdmitr22 · 08-18-2008, 05:16 PM

quoted from turnermotorsports.

"please note that on mid year production (mid-'07) 335i's, we have found that the ring and pinion is welded in place, and cannot be unbolted to re-use with our limited slip "chunk". On these 335i's you must buy our LSD unit already installed into a differential (option #2), as your existing diff is not elligible for option #1 ."

WhiteOne · 08-19-2008, 01:45 AM

So if I can find a rearend from an early 335i, I would still have to pay $3700 for a limited slip "chunk". Add in setup and installation and this could get very expensive indeed.

HP Autowerks · 12-09-2008, 12:35 AM

Most if not all automatics 135i's came with a bolted diff.

However, all manual 135i's are welded.

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jdmitr22 Enlisted Member Drives: wew Join Date: Jan 2006 Location: ellicott city, MD Posts: 35 iTrader: (0)	135 rear diff same as 335? Does anyone kno if the 335 and 135 share the same rear diff? if so shouldnt the Quaife LSD for the 335 work? http://www.**********s.com/product.a...LSD_BMW_E92_BL :drinking:
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08-14-2008, 03:20 PM	#3
Randall41 Private First Class Drives: 2008 BMW 135i Alpine White Join Date: Apr 2008 Location: DreamLand Posts: 118 iTrader: (1)	LSD for 135 In the August '08 article written by Ralph Warren, he mentions getting their LSD from Diffs on Line.

08-14-2008, 04:44 PM	#4
Robert Major General Drives: 135i, current is350 Join Date: Aug 2005 Location: Socal Posts: 6,765 iTrader: (1)	^ Who's Ralph Warren? __________________ - There's nothing in my pocket other than knives and lint

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Unoid Registered Drives: Join Date: Aug 2008 Posts: 4 iTrader: (0)	NO LSD? lol what was bmw thinking? __________________ 2003 Ford Cobra, 455rwhp/465trq

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mikeo Santa Fe Concorso Drives: '09 335d, '13 X1 sDrive28i Join Date: Jul 2007 Location: Santa Fe, NM Posts: 2,936 iTrader: (3)	Outside of the final drive ratio, they are a little different. 1-Series uses fancy helical bearings and less lube capacity because of the lower friction/heat due to the bearings. __________________ The Southwest's Premier Automotive Gathering.

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larryn Major General Drives: '97 332ti, '10 E92 M3 Join Date: May 2005 Location: Seattle Posts: 8,287 iTrader: (2)	Ralph Warren drive thes car that Scottn2retro writes about (as well as the Crevier M3 Club Racer) http://www.1addicts.com/forums/showthread.php?t=8162 Btw, a Quaife will likely not work on our cars, if it's a welded ring gear diff, which there are reports of ours being welded. You'd likely then have to buy an entire new diff, including the housing.

08-14-2008, 07:48 PM	#6
BerkTechnology Lieutenant Colonel Drives: Fast Join Date: May 2008 Location: Irvine, CA Posts: 1,566 iTrader: (1)	Yep, we all have welded ring gears....

08-16-2008, 02:02 PM	#9
WhiteOne Major Drives: 2008 AW 135i Join Date: Dec 2007 Location: Alabama Posts: 1,000 iTrader: (0)	Unless they weld it after they put it into the housing, I do not see why it will not come out. Someone will make an affordable LSD conversion for our cars but it might take a while. Lets all start bugging Quaiffe.

08-16-2008, 02:14 PM	#10
larryn Major General Drives: '97 332ti, '10 E92 M3 Join Date: May 2005 Location: Seattle Posts: 8,287 iTrader: (2)	335i diffs are welded too, and they have to replace the entire housing. I do think they are either welded in place, or the pressed in bearings lock it in there (good luck replacing those). We're lucky, in sorts, that the 335i folk paved the way for us. They found the answers to questions like these already. (good or not)

08-18-2008, 05:16 PM	#13
jdmitr22 Enlisted Member Drives: wew Join Date: Jan 2006 Location: ellicott city, MD Posts: 35 iTrader: (0)	quoted from turnermotorsports. "please note that on mid year production (mid-'07) 335i's, we have found that the ring and pinion is welded in place, and cannot be unbolted to re-use with our limited slip "chunk". On these 335i's you must buy our LSD unit already installed into a differential (option #2), as your existing diff is not elligible for option #1 ."

08-19-2008, 01:45 AM	#14
WhiteOne Major Drives: 2008 AW 135i Join Date: Dec 2007 Location: Alabama Posts: 1,000 iTrader: (0)	So if I can find a rearend from an early 335i, I would still have to pay $3700 for a limited slip "chunk". Add in setup and installation and this could get very expensive indeed.

12-09-2008, 12:35 AM	#15
HP Autowerks Lieutenant General Drives: 2011 135i DCT & 2011 1M Join Date: Mar 2007 Location: Santa Barbara, AST, Brembo, Eibach, H&R, GIAC, Koni, Quaife, Stoptech, Vorshlag, Posts: 10,050 iTrader: (26)	Most if not all automatics 135i's came with a bolted diff. However, all manual 135i's are welded.