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1ForAll · 09-16-2008, 01:32 AM

BMW claims that our cars will stop at 150 mph with the OEM limiter in. Is the limiter an actual speed limiter or is it a RPM limiter in 6th gear? If it is the RPM limiter, would it be possible to achieve a higher top end with a different final drive ratio?

wolfson.tyler · 09-16-2008, 01:36 AM

ive done it and yes its 150 no idea about the rpms i was a little busy looking at the road

Si-335d · 09-16-2008, 01:48 AM

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Originally Posted by wolfson.tyler

ive done it and yes its 150 no idea about the rpms i was a little busy looking at the road

In the UK they quote 155 MPH and from what I have read you can hit the speed limiter in earlier gears than 6th so it is not just in 6th gear that the limiter kicks in.

123D-M · 09-16-2008, 02:37 AM

I'm sure the limiter will be linked to the speedo irrespective of the gear you are in. Our Mazda CX7 is limited to 220kph and I can hit that in 5th or 6th. It just feels like your wind resistance has suddenly increased and it won't go any faster. Very undramatic.

Not sure if my 123d will hit the limiter. Brochure says the top speed is 247kph which is just under 155mph. That's before I chip it of course...

Citizen Z · 09-16-2008, 05:23 AM

In 6th gear at 155 indicated the car tachs something like 5600-5800rpm. When I was in Germany I did about a half an hour on Autobahn 3 at max speed, just because I could, but its been a while since then and I don't recall the exact rotational speed.

Ghostbear · 09-16-2008, 05:54 AM

In Germany almost all companies have agreed to limit their Cars to 250km/h which equals 155.34 mph i have read tests that state that BMW says 167.77mph to 170.88 mph are possible on the stock car. Hartge for example has a software which removes vmax. Porsche for example is one of the companies that do not adhere to this de facto standard. Therefore the often compared Cayman S wins vmax very often and means that you will be overtaken at some time

as mentioned before this feels like running into a block of wind you know the car could go faster but it is restricted. I myself did 146.02 mph on the autobahn and this is more than you should do with all the idiots around who do not know that their cars come equipped with mirrors and change into left lane with around 60 mph.
Sorry fat text comes from speed translator.

wnta135 · 09-16-2008, 06:19 AM

While on the autobahn during ED I had an indicated 158 mph with GPS showing 148 mph actually. This was about 5500 rpm in 6th which translates to about 6200 rpm in 5th.

Yearofthe1 · 09-16-2008, 08:48 AM

On our ED this August, the indicated speed on the speedo read 155. It's definitely a speed limiter, not a rev limiter.

BTW, the car wanted to go faster :wink:

asv · 09-16-2008, 12:13 PM

Its definitely a speed limiter, and not a rev limiter. I had no problem getting to 140+ in 4th gear at Pocono raceway.

Bizall · 09-16-2008, 08:24 PM

Yep attained 155mph on the speedo, which was 147-148mph on my GPS.

F0Bman · 09-21-2008, 10:09 PM

150 is awfully dangerous you guys, please be careful and consider only on closed roads. If the tires were A048R stock or Pilot Cup Sport, then I wouldn't mind too much.

AZ135 · 09-21-2008, 10:29 PM

I hit 155-157 on the speedo, but from what I understand that is more like 148-150... it's really fast! 120 felt like cruising after that stint.

135i_TT · 09-21-2008, 10:37 PM

so does the 350Z really go 160 or is it the speedo off for them as well???

lovemywhip · 09-21-2008, 10:41 PM

how do you get speed up on the gps?!?!?!?!? ahhh ive been trying to figure that out

Citizen Z · 09-22-2008, 07:23 AM

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Originally Posted by F0Bman

150 is awfully dangerous you guys, please be careful and consider only on closed roads. If the tires were A048R stock or Pilot Cup Sport, then I wouldn't mind too much.

Oh, geeze, just shut up.

The 135i with sport package has better tires to correspond to the higher speed limiter. The models without the sport option are limited at 135mph since their tires aren't rated for higher speeds. If it weren't acceptable to drive that fast then the Bundes Republic Deutschland would impose a limit on all their roads. As it is, only sections of the Autobahn are unlimited and no, its not unsafe to drive 130+ mph on those road surfaces, provided traffic will permit. You just can't go out and be a dumbass while you're at it. Don't be ignorant.

ChrisK · 09-22-2008, 07:30 AM

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Originally Posted by Citizen Z

Oh, geeze, just shut up.

The 135i with sport package has better tires to correspond to the higher speed limiter. The models without the sport option are limited at 135mph since their tires aren't rated for higher speeds. If it weren't acceptable to drive that fast then the Bundes Republic Deutschland would impose a limit on all their roads. As it is, only sections of the Autobahn are unlimited and no, its not unsafe to drive 130+ mph on those road surfaces, provided traffic will permit. You just can't go out and be a dumbass while you're at it. Don't be ignorant.

Wrong information.

The Tires on the non-sport pkg 135i are exactly the same as the tires on the sport package 135i.

pheller · 09-22-2008, 11:37 AM

Spent perhaps 20ish minutes today at 157-159 (speedo, no idea of actual) on the way to Leipzig. As per other's observations, this was at an approximate 5500-5600 RPM.

Was perfectly safe and comfortable!

Yearofthe1 · 09-22-2008, 12:50 PM

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Originally Posted by ChrisK

Wrong information.

The Tires on the non-sport pkg 135i are exactly the same as the tires on the sport package 135i.

He may have been thinking of 128i's without the sports package?

Yearofthe1 · 09-22-2008, 12:52 PM

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Originally Posted by F0Bman

150 is awfully dangerous you guys, please be careful and consider only on closed roads. If the tires were A048R stock or Pilot Cup Sport, then I wouldn't mind too much.

BTW, on roads like the autobahn (traffic permitting), 155 mph doesn't feel that dangerous at all. It's actually very fun. You should try it sometime before you make ridiculous comments like that.

rems09135i · 09-22-2008, 12:53 PM

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Originally Posted by asv

Its definitely a speed limiter, and not a rev limiter. I had no problem getting to 140+ in 4th gear at Pocono raceway.

how do you get on the track? do you have to pay?

ChrisK · 09-22-2008, 03:22 PM

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Originally Posted by Yearofthe1

He may have been thinking of 128i's without the sports package?

I hope so. :wink:

MikeCCrutchfield · 09-22-2008, 03:35 PM

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Originally Posted by Ghostbear

I myself did 146.02 mph on the autobahn and this is more than you should do with all the idiots around who do not know that their cars come equipped with mirrors and change into left lane with around 60 mph.
Sorry fat text comes from speed translator.

I have that happen a lot. I have started doing more and more pre-emptive braking especially after a close call I had recently where someone was changing lanes WHILE I was next to her and almost squeezed me into the guardrail (and that was only at 80) Still nothing like maxing out the car though. Makes a long drive go MUCH quicker.

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Originally Posted by wnta135

While on the autobahn during ED I had an indicated 158 mph with GPS showing 148 mph actually. This was about 5500 rpm in 6th which translates to about 6200 rpm in 5th.

Bingo...had the same scenario. ~155mph on the speedo, I think 148 on the GPS

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09-16-2008, 05:23 AM	#5
Citizen Z Alpine Master Drives: '08 135i AW Sport Join Date: May 2008 Location: Kansas Posts: 1,310 iTrader: (1)	In 6th gear at 155 indicated the car tachs something like 5600-5800rpm. When I was in Germany I did about a half an hour on Autobahn 3 at max speed, just because I could, but its been a while since then and I don't recall the exact rotational speed. __________________ Alpine White with Taupe Leather 135i, Sports Package, Heated Seats, Comfort Access, iPod Adapter Fastness: http://www.1addicts.com/forums/showthread.php?t=252727

09-16-2008, 08:48 AM	#8
Yearofthe1 An ex-addict :-( Drives: VFR1200F Join Date: Jan 2008 Location: N. Va. Posts: 691 iTrader: (1)	On our ED this August, the indicated speed on the speedo read 155. It's definitely a speed limiter, not a rev limiter. BTW, the car wanted to go faster :wink: __________________ 135i Montego Blue, Grey Boston Leather, MT, Sport Package, Premium Package, Navi, Premium Sound, Heated Seats, iPod. [SIGPIC][/SIGPIC] We search for certainty and call what we find destiny. Everything is possible, yet only one thing happens. -Michael and Ellen Kaplan

09-21-2008, 10:09 PM	#11
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09-16-2008, 01:36 AM	#2
wolfson.tyler Private First Class Drives: Join Date: May 2008 Posts: 108 iTrader: (0)	ive done it and yes its 150 no idea about the rpms i was a little busy looking at the road

09-16-2008, 05:54 AM	#6
Ghostbear Private Drives: 135is 09 Join Date: Jul 2008 Location: Germany Posts: 89 iTrader: (0)	In Germany almost all companies have agreed to limit their Cars to 250km/h which equals 155.34 mph i have read tests that state that BMW says 167.77mph to 170.88 mph are possible on the stock car. Hartge for example has a software which removes vmax. Porsche for example is one of the companies that do not adhere to this de facto standard. Therefore the often compared Cayman S wins vmax very often and means that you will be overtaken at some time as mentioned before this feels like running into a block of wind you know the car could go faster but it is restricted. I myself did 146.02 mph on the autobahn and this is more than you should do with all the idiots around who do not know that their cars come equipped with mirrors and change into left lane with around 60 mph. Sorry fat text comes from speed translator.

09-16-2008, 06:19 AM	#7
wnta135 Private First Class Drives: 2008 Sedona Red 135i Join Date: Nov 2007 Location: South Carolina Posts: 193 iTrader: (0)	While on the autobahn during ED I had an indicated 158 mph with GPS showing 148 mph actually. This was about 5500 rpm in 6th which translates to about 6200 rpm in 5th.

09-16-2008, 12:13 PM	#9
asv Captain Drives: 135i Join Date: Mar 2008 Location: PA Posts: 656 iTrader: (0)	Its definitely a speed limiter, and not a rev limiter. I had no problem getting to 140+ in 4th gear at Pocono raceway.

09-16-2008, 08:24 PM	#10
Bizall Captain Drives: 2008 135i Join Date: Feb 2008 Location: Landstuhl, Germany Posts: 745 iTrader: (0)	Yep attained 155mph on the speedo, which was 147-148mph on my GPS.

09-21-2008, 10:29 PM	#12
AZ135 REALTOR Drives: aimlessly just for fun Join Date: Jul 2008 Location: Tempe, AZ Posts: 355 iTrader: (0)	I hit 155-157 on the speedo, but from what I understand that is more like 148-150... it's really fast! 120 felt like cruising after that stint. __________________ '08 AW 135i, MT, Terra, Walnut Burl, Sport, Premium, Nav, iPod, Premium Hi-Fi, CA

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09-21-2008, 10:41 PM	#14
lovemywhip Private First Class Drives: Join Date: May 2008 Posts: 131 iTrader: (0)	how do you get speed up on the gps?!?!?!?!? ahhh ive been trying to figure that out

09-22-2008, 11:37 AM	#17
pheller First Lieutenant Drives: 2011 VO 1M Join Date: May 2008 Location: Boston, MA Posts: 347 iTrader: (1)	Spent perhaps 20ish minutes today at 157-159 (speedo, no idea of actual) on the way to Leipzig. As per other's observations, this was at an approximate 5500-5600 RPM. Was perfectly safe and comfortable! __________________ --phil

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