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Wraith · 10-06-2008, 05:00 PM

Just thought I'd write up as 'briefly as possible my recent experience with the new Audi TTS, as it's one of the cars I'm considering and short listed ATM along with the 135i coupe, SLK 350 and a couple of others :smile:

I was never a fan of the original MK1 TT released in 1998, but I've always loved the MK2 TT since it was released early in 2007, but would never have considered buying one because it didn't have 'the goods' equipped with the 2.0ltr turbo and IMHO the V6 AWD is still under par, but now the new updated MK2 TTS changes all of that - for me anyway...

As mentioned in another thread, a test drive of some of Audi' latest and greatest was in the waiting for me and last weekend I got my 1st go at it, I say 1st go because there's another longer (1 full hr) test drive coming soon

I test drove both coupe and roadster, both were DSG equipped.

Before I get into it in more detail, if I were to use only one word to describe the new TTS, it would be WOW !!! this is the best car o/a I've driven in a long time...hopefully I'll get a chance to holiday in Japan later this year and have a chance to 'play' with an R35 GT-R for up to a week, you can 'rent-a-car' hire them there

Anyway I'll start with some of the technical/specifications aspects of this new TTS. The info below is as accurate as I was able to obtain from sources other than the net and some is different to internet publicated material, there's way too much to list all, so I'll try and summarize it.

Engine is a revised 2.0ltr TFSI turbo, it has stronger pistons, rods, block and redesigned intake, exhaust, head and cams, compared to the previous TFSI and has a new larger and lighter worked over K04 turbo.
The entire engine assembly weighs only 153kg.
It runs 17.4psi peak boost and produces 200kw/350nm, but I can tell you, it feels and goes alot stronger than those numbers suggest, it's fitted with a sports exhaust system with quad tail pipes.

Drivetrain, in this case the 6spd. DSG Audi claim it's revised for the TTS (SSSHoon will have to drive one to compare) twin clutch with zero power loss through the clutches, again claimed, but certainly feels that way on the road.
Haldex 4 AWD with 'active' front/rear, left/right power distribution, up to 100% of the power can be shifted to either front or rear wheel drive by the Haldex 4 ecu. (there's speculation that Porsche will use this same AWD system on the new 911 Carrera 4 model range, that's how good it is)

Chassis, McPherson front suspension, triangular aluminium front wishbones, 4 link high strength steel rear suspension set up.
The TTS is equipped an 'active' magnetic ride damper suspension system as standard, in sport mode it lowers the car down by around 10mm when at or over 120km/h and like the previous model, the rear spoiler deploys at the same speed, retracting again at 80km/h.

Body, is 69% aluminium construction (centre and front sections) and 31% steel, mainly towards the rear of the car to achieve a better weight distribution which is 58/42 front/rear respectively, the coupes body (bare bones) weighs only 206kg.

Weights, the coupe weighs in at 1395kg (manual trans) and 1415kg with DSG trans. power/weight ratio for the DSG equipped variant is 7.07kg/kw and 4.04kg/nm.

Performance, Audi claims 0-100km/h in 5.2sec/5.4sec Manual/DSG and rolling acceleration 80-120km/h in 4.4sec for the manual, the DSG is quicker, those numbers are for the coupe.
Current Motor Mag ran a TTS manual @ 5.56sec 0-100km/h and 13.9sec 1/4 mile, so the Audi figures are pretty accurate and having driven the thing myself with DSG trans, I can tell you, it's definitely a 13sec car, I could just imagine it with an APR tune with 250kw and 450nm with the DSG...with AWD I believe it'll run 12's with those power numbers and the Haldex AWD system itself can be tuned with alternative software upgrades...

Now for my thoughts behind the wheel...1st off the driver position, steering wheel, peddles, seat and dial cluster, pretty much everything in terms of positioning is just perfect ! ergonomically this car' interior is very well designed, it's brilliant, not only does it look beautiful with fantastic build quality and finish, it works.
It has a digital multifunction read out in the centre of the dial cluster, which displays speed and I found myself looking at it only without having to look at the needles in the dials to know everything I needed to know whilst driving, it lights up in a clear white colour that's easier to read and on the eyes, compared to the red colour of the basic MK2 TT.
That centre digital display also features a timer function, as this car is set up to be track ready as is stock standard.

Motor ran the car at Phillip Island back to back with an Audi R8 and it was only 5sec slower o/a per lap and had a faster cornerring speed in 2 of the circuts corners - not bad when you look at the differences in all the numbers in favour of the much more expensive R8.

It drives incredibly smooth and there is hardly any turbo lag (alot less than even my Astras Z20LET which has very little lag) even at part or low throttle, the engine is super responsive with loads of power and torque everywhere.
I wouldn't be surprised if it has more than 350nm torque, because comparing it to my remaped Turbo vert (similar weight and power output) or to a VXR I test drove, it feels alot stronger, in fact it pulled harder than my mates MPS 3 !

I didn't get a chance to fully explore the Haldex AWD because it was a nice dry day and the fastest corner I took was at 60km/h, maybe next test drive, but I did see what the active magnetic dampening system could do and it's fantastic.
When taking off hard, there's zero body movement and zero body role through corners too (up to 60km/h anyway) but the ride remains compliant and it's not harsh at all, it senses role or front/rear tilt and adjusts itself automatically to stop any body role, it's pure go kart like, but without the harsh bumpy ride - I love it and little wonder it handles so well...

The engine note is very nice for an IL4 potter, it sounds better than my Z20LET with a remus sports muffler, or any 4 pot I've driven, but not as good as the burble from a rex.

I think Audi have got the exhaust note just right with this car, the volume of the exhaust is loud enough to enjoy it, but not over the top.

The thing I probably enjoyed the most was the DSG, what a trans. it's brilliant, revised over previous models, I can't say or compare, but it changes regardless of speed or throttle position with total stealth...you hear the engine note change, you see the rev needle bopping, but you feel nothing, the acceleration or deceleration is continuous and un-interrupted.
Deceleration throttle blips are very cool and it'll blip in sports mode on all downshifts, even if just slowing down from 50km/h with your foot off the throttle.

This experience only reinforces my desire for my next car to have a combination of AWD and automated manual !

I'll stop there, all in all as said, I loved it and walked away thinking, I love this thing and I want one, every other car I've test driven over the past couple of years has had me thinking twice or not liking it much at all, but this new TTS has me won over...this new TTS has it all, with an engine tune and AWD ecu tune, if you want it (APR do both) - it'll be a little monster ! a very good looking little monster though

So was there anything I didn't like, yes a few things, but none of them would stop me from getting one if I decide to do so...well maybe one obvious thing - item 3.

1st. no sunroof option at all - because of the aluminium space frame centre body capsule, a sunroof is a no go for this car.

2nd. the only interior gripe (and it would probably only be me to say this) but I hate the silly '2 sizes' 3 hole cup holder in the centre console.

3rd. that damned Audi trade mark pricing - nearly 120k on road for one of these, fully loaded with everything though, that would be the only way to go IMO for a car like this.

For now I'll just look forward to the next longer test drive and to an upcoming test drive of the BMW 135i which will be an interesting comparison

RobLS · 10-06-2008, 05:02 PM

not an audi fan so i wouldnt have gotten it. I enjoyed the 135i more than enough though to even consider the tts as an option.

smarm · 10-06-2008, 05:52 PM

I've got the modified 2.0T. Essentially with the modifications I've done to it, the only thing difference about it is the 4wd haldex system (I've got MRC). I had the chance to drive a friends one two weeks ago, then back to back with my car. To be brutally honest, it was underwhelming when compared to my car. The understeer is marginally reduced when pushing into a corner, it launched fractionally quicker, but that was really the most obvious differences between the two, apart from the body styling. Transmission differences were negligble (I've also got DSG). And then there's the audi price premium on the TTS, compared to the TT. If both cars were out a year ago when I was buying the TT, I'd probably still make my original decision and stick with the TT and mod it

However I still think it's the best looking car under $150k.

God knows how much audi is going to charge for the TTRS

Breville · 10-06-2008, 06:33 PM

I drove the S3 a few weeks back before I bought my 135i and I think it's got a similar engine? Anyway I was very impressed with the whole package. I didn't buy one though as I couldn't live with the not very practical cabin.

Dazza · 10-06-2008, 07:17 PM

What's the pricing on the SLK, i.e. hairdresser cruise mobile......... not that there's anything wrong with that

I loved the MKI AMG SLK, snide comments aside

)))

Wraith · 10-06-2008, 09:04 PM

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Originally Posted by smarm

I've got the modified 2.0T. Essentially with the modifications I've done to it, the only thing difference about it is the 4wd haldex system (I've got MRC). I had the chance to drive a friends one two weeks ago, then back to back with my car. To be brutally honest, it was underwhelming when compared to my car. The understeer is marginally reduced when pushing into a corner, it launched fractionally quicker, but that was really the most obvious differences between the two, apart from the body styling. Transmission differences were negligble (I've also got DSG). And then there's the audi price premium on the TTS, compared to the TT. If both cars were out a year ago when I was buying the TT, I'd probably still make my original decision and stick with the TT and mod it

However I still think it's the best looking car under $150k.

God knows how much audi is going to charge for the TTRS

I was in the same boat as yourself early last year smarm and said to myself and the missus - now if only this thing had AWD and a far more powerful 2.0ltr turbo engine, I'd go for it - now it has exactly that and more, Haldex 4 AWD and adaptive magnetic suspension and very strong turbo 4 potter which can be tuned to 280kw ! so far, I suspect it's got even more potential as time goes on we'll see, as it's fairly new :smile:

The Haldex 4 can also be tuned via re-map/flash just like the ecu of the engine for different characteristics if desired (APR do both)...so with some basic tuning to a TTS, the basic 2.0ltr turbo FWD TT won't compare at all !

The only gripe I've got (besides the price tag) is the fact that interior colour choices are limited for the coupe being an Audi 'S' model, compared to the basic MK2 TT - I'd love to have the all beige or similar interior, but that's not available for the TTS

I agree about the TT-RS it'll probably be priced at 130-140k I definitely won't go there either - but that car will be a real pocket rocket stock standard...

Audi MK2 TT range best looking car under 150k - AGREE ! I should post some pics :smile:

Wraith · 10-06-2008, 09:11 PM

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Originally Posted by Breville

I drove the S3 a few weeks back before I bought my 135i and I think it's got a similar engine? Anyway I was very impressed with the whole package. I didn't buy one though as I couldn't live with the not very practical cabin.

Yes same engine with different exhaust and tune - 188kw/320nm or there abouts - but tunabilty is similar to the TTS powerplant...

APR have a chip (switchable back to stock) that puts it at 240kw and 450nm :smile:

The TTS is less practicle than the S3, in terms of interior and boot space, however it is very efficient to run (combined cycle 7.9ltrs/100km) but if I get one, it'll join my other weekend only 'garage queens' so praticality isn't of concern for this car.

I was however looking at using a 135i as a DD if I chose to go that way instead, it is more practicle by comparison with those things listed above, except for efficiency.

Wraith · 10-06-2008, 09:14 PM

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Originally Posted by Dazza

What's the pricing on the SLK, i.e. hairdresser cruise mobile......... not that there's anything wrong with that

I loved the MKI AMG SLK, snide comments aside

)))

Depending which model, they are around 90k + to 180k+

The one I would be interested in, is the new SLK 350 which would be around 130k on road - the priciest of the bunch I'm looking at !

However as time goes by, I'm slowly moving away from the Merc. and looking pretty much only at the 135i and the Audi :smile:

Oh and the 'hairdresser' remark is something that's been attached to the TT ever since the launch of the MK1 in 1998 - BUT things are-a-changing, just read up on all the reviews and even most of them claim, the hairdresser only days of the TT are over with this new model and the TT-RS will cement that :biggrin:

Either way, I don't care - if I get one I know I'll be driving something very desirable, absolutely beautiful looking exterior/interior, excellent build quality etc. etc. with some real get down and go and handling...:smile:

Breville · 10-06-2008, 09:29 PM

I was well impressed with the interior quality and excellent sports seats. But as a DD I couldn't live with the little things like no where to put my phone, and the parking break hitting the arm rest every time it was applied. As a w/e blast though I reckon its up there with the best of them.

Wraith · 10-06-2008, 09:35 PM

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Originally Posted by Breville

I was well impressed with the interior quality and excellent sports seats. But as a DD I couldn't live with the little things like no where to put my phone, and the parking break hitting the arm rest every time it was applied. As a w/e blast though I reckon its up there with the best of them.

Agreed - and that's exactly what I intend to do with the TTS if I get one of those, oh week night blasts too :biggrin:...however the 135i would be a DD and cost alot less, decisions, decisions :iono:

Get the one that really makes my heart throb (and the missus too, she loves the BMW 135i, but can't stop talking and dreaming about the TTS !) or save some dosh and get the less costly more DD friendly vehicle, hmmm....

AussieRacer · 10-06-2008, 09:40 PM

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Originally Posted by Wraith

Just thought I'd write up as 'briefly as possible my recent experience with the new Audi TTS, as it's one of the cars I'm considering and short listed ATM along with the 135i coupe, SLK 350 and a couple of others :smile:

.............

For now I'll just look forward to the next longer test drive and to an upcoming test drive of the BMW 135i which will be an interesting comparison

600+ posts and you haven't driven a 135i yet?? Go out and drive one man! You won't regret it. I can't comment on the TTS, but I've just moved from a 120i to a 135i at a cost fo $50k where the only significant difference was the motor.......it was worth EVERY cent!

Breville · 10-06-2008, 09:47 PM

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Originally Posted by Wraith

Agreed - and that's exactly what I intend to do with the TTS if I get one of those, oh week night blasts too :biggrin:...however the 135i would be a DD and cost alot less, decisions, decisions :iono:

Get the one that really makes my heart throb (and the missus too, she loves the BMW 135i, but can't stop talking and dreaming about the TTS !) or save some dosh and get the less costly more DD friendly vehicle, hmmm....

Easy decision - bus pass; PS3; Gran Tourismo; wireless steering wheel; then you can drive anything you want :thumbup:

Wraith · 10-06-2008, 09:53 PM

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Originally Posted by AussieRacer

600+ posts and you haven't driven a 135i yet?? Go out and drive one man! You won't regret it. I can't comment on the TTS, but I've just moved from a 120i to a 135i at a cost fo $50k where the only significant difference was the motor.......it was worth EVERY cent!

Not for lack of trying LOL :smile:

Months ago it was next to impossible, now there's more opportunity and I will be in the coming weeks :smile:

As mentioned in my 1st post, it's happening soon...

And yes, I too am prepared to pay 10's of thousands extra for what I really want/desire, but up to a point :smile:

Wraith · 10-06-2008, 09:55 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Breville

Easy decision - bus pass; PS3; Gran Tourismo; wireless steering wheel; then you can drive anything you want :thumbup:

Hahahahaha LOL I'll have to suggest that one to the missus

TimMc · 10-06-2008, 09:56 PM

Beautiful car and now has the go. If it was similar money to the 135 I could definitely have been swayed.
I do like the way the 135 doesn't stand out as much though. I decided on it over a 350Z track or Evo 10 as I like the subtle look.

Wraith · 10-06-2008, 10:07 PM

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Originally Posted by TimMc

Beautiful car and now has the go. If it was similar money to the 135 I could definitely have been swayed.
I do like the way the 135 doesn't stand out as much though. I decided on it over a 350Z track or Evo 10 as I like the subtle look.

Yes, I too had those 2 in my short list, but would prefer to compare the TTS to the new 370Z out next year :smile:

Decided to not go for an Evo 10 in the end, awesome machine, but I want to stick to more upmarket prestige.

As for those 350Z's once you get one of those will ALL the options, they arn't exactly cheap either - they go over 100k too :eyebulge:

Much prefer a TTS for that kind of money and it is the ONLY reason I havn't purchsed it yet, because of the price - if it were similar or within 10k of the 135i pricing, for me in my eyes and my opinion only, the 135i wouldn't even be considered...the TTS IMHO just has too much appeal going for it inside and out

and is a real pocket rocket too with awesome handling straight out of the box and with huge tuning potential on top of that, if you wanted to go that way ! :smile:

harpoon · 10-06-2008, 10:09 PM

For 120k I think I'd rather have a used cayman s.

Wraith · 10-06-2008, 10:21 PM

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Originally Posted by harpoon

For 120k I think I'd rather have a used cayman s.

Yet another one I've also looked at just for comparison !

But Lots of reasons I wouldn't go that way either...

Don't think I could bring myself to purchasing a S/H car for 120k for starters...

I've never been a fan of Porsche' period - looked at them heaps over the years, but they just don't do it for me...I do respect them for what they are, but I think they are in that category of cars that it's either love or hate em and I hate em...

They are also in that category of cars that comes with more than its fair share of criticism and attitude of the wrong kind if you know what I mean and all any Cayman owner dosn't need is a fellow Porsche 911 owner saying you got the Cayman, because you couldn't afford the real deal

TimMc · 10-07-2008, 03:52 AM

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Originally Posted by Wraith

I've never been a fan of Porsche' period - looked at them heaps over the years, but they just don't do it for me...I do respect them for what they are, but I think they are in that category of cars that it's either love or hate em and I hate em...

They are also in that category of cars that comes with more than its fair share of criticism and attitude of the wrong kind if you know what I mean and all any Cayman owner dosn't need is a fellow Porsche 911 owner saying you got the Cayman, because you couldn't afford the real deal

I know many people also have that "attitude" about BMW drivers. Some of it is deserved!
As for buying a Cayman 'cause you can't afford a 911, I suppose many could say that about some of us (myself certainly included), saying we bought the 135 as we can't afford an M3. That said I know many of you can afford the M3.

Yep 135 · 10-07-2008, 04:09 AM

Good point,
yes alot of us could but we also know "vaue for money", thats why I bought the 135.

Dabaitu · 10-07-2008, 04:27 AM

Sub-cultures will usually deride others to reinforce the bonds within their own group.

Now putting Psych101 aside for a moment, I for one and completely chuffed to be able to even consider spending the money I am on a 135i.

If someone can get a TTS/M3/Cayman good on them I reckon, I'm sure they're all good cars and one's I'd love to be in a position to have when I grow up

Alpine* · 10-07-2008, 04:48 AM

If I was going to stretch it I'd go some where like here...

http://www.carsales.com.au/all-cars/...33157&trecs=27

Just me 2cents worth.

10-06-2008, 05:00 PM	#1
Wraith Captain Drives: Join Date: Jun 2008 Posts: 814 iTrader: (0)	O/T Driven - new Audi TTS Just thought I'd write up as 'briefly as possible my recent experience with the new Audi TTS, as it's one of the cars I'm considering and short listed ATM along with the 135i coupe, SLK 350 and a couple of others :smile: I was never a fan of the original MK1 TT released in 1998, but I've always loved the MK2 TT since it was released early in 2007, but would never have considered buying one because it didn't have 'the goods' equipped with the 2.0ltr turbo and IMHO the V6 AWD is still under par, but now the new updated MK2 TTS changes all of that - for me anyway... As mentioned in another thread, a test drive of some of Audi' latest and greatest was in the waiting for me and last weekend I got my 1st go at it, I say 1st go because there's another longer (1 full hr) test drive coming soon I test drove both coupe and roadster, both were DSG equipped. Before I get into it in more detail, if I were to use only one word to describe the new TTS, it would be WOW !!! this is the best car o/a I've driven in a long time...hopefully I'll get a chance to holiday in Japan later this year and have a chance to 'play' with an R35 GT-R for up to a week, you can 'rent-a-car' hire them there Anyway I'll start with some of the technical/specifications aspects of this new TTS. The info below is as accurate as I was able to obtain from sources other than the net and some is different to internet publicated material, there's way too much to list all, so I'll try and summarize it. Engine is a revised 2.0ltr TFSI turbo, it has stronger pistons, rods, block and redesigned intake, exhaust, head and cams, compared to the previous TFSI and has a new larger and lighter worked over K04 turbo. The entire engine assembly weighs only 153kg. It runs 17.4psi peak boost and produces 200kw/350nm, but I can tell you, it feels and goes alot stronger than those numbers suggest, it's fitted with a sports exhaust system with quad tail pipes. Drivetrain, in this case the 6spd. DSG Audi claim it's revised for the TTS (SSSHoon will have to drive one to compare) twin clutch with zero power loss through the clutches, again claimed, but certainly feels that way on the road. Haldex 4 AWD with 'active' front/rear, left/right power distribution, up to 100% of the power can be shifted to either front or rear wheel drive by the Haldex 4 ecu. (there's speculation that Porsche will use this same AWD system on the new 911 Carrera 4 model range, that's how good it is) Chassis, McPherson front suspension, triangular aluminium front wishbones, 4 link high strength steel rear suspension set up. The TTS is equipped an 'active' magnetic ride damper suspension system as standard, in sport mode it lowers the car down by around 10mm when at or over 120km/h and like the previous model, the rear spoiler deploys at the same speed, retracting again at 80km/h. Body, is 69% aluminium construction (centre and front sections) and 31% steel, mainly towards the rear of the car to achieve a better weight distribution which is 58/42 front/rear respectively, the coupes body (bare bones) weighs only 206kg. Weights, the coupe weighs in at 1395kg (manual trans) and 1415kg with DSG trans. power/weight ratio for the DSG equipped variant is 7.07kg/kw and 4.04kg/nm. Performance, Audi claims 0-100km/h in 5.2sec/5.4sec Manual/DSG and rolling acceleration 80-120km/h in 4.4sec for the manual, the DSG is quicker, those numbers are for the coupe. Current Motor Mag ran a TTS manual @ 5.56sec 0-100km/h and 13.9sec 1/4 mile, so the Audi figures are pretty accurate and having driven the thing myself with DSG trans, I can tell you, it's definitely a 13sec car, I could just imagine it with an APR tune with 250kw and 450nm with the DSG...with AWD I believe it'll run 12's with those power numbers and the Haldex AWD system itself can be tuned with alternative software upgrades... Now for my thoughts behind the wheel...1st off the driver position, steering wheel, peddles, seat and dial cluster, pretty much everything in terms of positioning is just perfect ! ergonomically this car' interior is very well designed, it's brilliant, not only does it look beautiful with fantastic build quality and finish, it works. It has a digital multifunction read out in the centre of the dial cluster, which displays speed and I found myself looking at it only without having to look at the needles in the dials to know everything I needed to know whilst driving, it lights up in a clear white colour that's easier to read and on the eyes, compared to the red colour of the basic MK2 TT. That centre digital display also features a timer function, as this car is set up to be track ready as is stock standard. Motor ran the car at Phillip Island back to back with an Audi R8 and it was only 5sec slower o/a per lap and had a faster cornerring speed in 2 of the circuts corners - not bad when you look at the differences in all the numbers in favour of the much more expensive R8. It drives incredibly smooth and there is hardly any turbo lag (alot less than even my Astras Z20LET which has very little lag) even at part or low throttle, the engine is super responsive with loads of power and torque everywhere. I wouldn't be surprised if it has more than 350nm torque, because comparing it to my remaped Turbo vert (similar weight and power output) or to a VXR I test drove, it feels alot stronger, in fact it pulled harder than my mates MPS 3 ! I didn't get a chance to fully explore the Haldex AWD because it was a nice dry day and the fastest corner I took was at 60km/h, maybe next test drive, but I did see what the active magnetic dampening system could do and it's fantastic. When taking off hard, there's zero body movement and zero body role through corners too (up to 60km/h anyway) but the ride remains compliant and it's not harsh at all, it senses role or front/rear tilt and adjusts itself automatically to stop any body role, it's pure go kart like, but without the harsh bumpy ride - I love it and little wonder it handles so well... The engine note is very nice for an IL4 potter, it sounds better than my Z20LET with a remus sports muffler, or any 4 pot I've driven, but not as good as the burble from a rex. I think Audi have got the exhaust note just right with this car, the volume of the exhaust is loud enough to enjoy it, but not over the top. The thing I probably enjoyed the most was the DSG, what a trans. it's brilliant, revised over previous models, I can't say or compare, but it changes regardless of speed or throttle position with total stealth...you hear the engine note change, you see the rev needle bopping, but you feel nothing, the acceleration or deceleration is continuous and un-interrupted. Deceleration throttle blips are very cool and it'll blip in sports mode on all downshifts, even if just slowing down from 50km/h with your foot off the throttle. This experience only reinforces my desire for my next car to have a combination of AWD and automated manual ! I'll stop there, all in all as said, I loved it and walked away thinking, I love this thing and I want one, every other car I've test driven over the past couple of years has had me thinking twice or not liking it much at all, but this new TTS has me won over...this new TTS has it all, with an engine tune and AWD ecu tune, if you want it (APR do both) - it'll be a little monster ! a very good looking little monster though So was there anything I didn't like, yes a few things, but none of them would stop me from getting one if I decide to do so...well maybe one obvious thing - item 3. 1st. no sunroof option at all - because of the aluminium space frame centre body capsule, a sunroof is a no go for this car. 2nd. the only interior gripe (and it would probably only be me to say this) but I hate the silly '2 sizes' 3 hole cup holder in the centre console. 3rd. that damned Audi trade mark pricing - nearly 120k on road for one of these, fully loaded with everything though, that would be the only way to go IMO for a car like this. For now I'll just look forward to the next longer test drive and to an upcoming test drive of the BMW 135i which will be an interesting comparison
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10-06-2008, 06:33 PM	#4
Breville Scum in the sun Drives: 135i Coupe TiAg Join Date: Sep 2008 Location: Syndey Posts: 938 iTrader: (0) Garage List 2008 135i Coupe [0.00]	I drove the S3 a few weeks back before I bought my 135i and I think it's got a similar engine? Anyway I was very impressed with the whole package. I didn't buy one though as I couldn't live with the not very practical cabin. __________________ One should love animals. They are so tasty.

10-06-2008, 07:17 PM	#5
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Breville Scum in the sun Drives: 135i Coupe TiAg Join Date: Sep 2008 Location: Syndey Posts: 938 iTrader: (0) Garage List 2008 135i Coupe [0.00]	I was well impressed with the interior quality and excellent sports seats. But as a DD I couldn't live with the little things like no where to put my phone, and the parking break hitting the arm rest every time it was applied. As a w/e blast though I reckon its up there with the best of them. __________________ One should love animals. They are so tasty.

10-06-2008, 09:56 PM	#15
TimMc Lieutenant Colonel Drives: 135i SCT N54 Join Date: Aug 2008 Location: Brisbane, Australia Posts: 1,825 iTrader: (0)	Beautiful car and now has the go. If it was similar money to the 135 I could definitely have been swayed. I do like the way the 135 doesn't stand out as much though. I decided on it over a 350Z track or Evo 10 as I like the subtle look. __________________ Driving - Man 135 (LeMans/Black). BMW Perf SW & SSK. Quaife LSD, KW V2s, Custom camber plates, M3 front Control Arms & SB, Helix IC, AR DPs, PROcede V5, ER CP, Forge DVs, BMS OCC, Setrab OC, P3 Gauge. Riding - 900 Kwaka, Avanti Aggressor, Malvern Star Equipe, Mini Mal. Proudly from the Shire.

10-06-2008, 05:02 PM	#2
RobLS Major Drives: M3 Coupe Join Date: Aug 2007 Location: Near Perpetual Rain Posts: 1,193 iTrader: (0)	not an audi fan so i wouldnt have gotten it. I enjoyed the 135i more than enough though to even consider the tts as an option.

10-06-2008, 10:09 PM	#17
harpoon Lieutenant Drives: e92 M3 Join Date: May 2008 Location: Syd Posts: 436 iTrader: (1)	For 120k I think I'd rather have a used cayman s. __________________ E92 M3

10-07-2008, 04:09 AM	#20
Yep 135 Lieutenant Drives: BMW 135 manual Join Date: Oct 2008 Location: Canberra Posts: 591 iTrader: (0)	Good point, yes alot of us could but we also know "vaue for money", thats why I bought the 135.

10-07-2008, 04:27 AM	#21
Dabaitu Colonel Drives: anything given a chance Join Date: Jul 2008 Location: .au Posts: 2,605 iTrader: (0) Garage List 2012 BMW F30 328i S ... [5.00]	Sub-cultures will usually deride others to reinforce the bonds within their own group. Now putting Psych101 aside for a moment, I for one and completely chuffed to be able to even consider spending the money I am on a 135i. If someone can get a TTS/M3/Cayman good on them I reckon, I'm sure they're all good cars and one's I'd love to be in a position to have when I grow up

10-07-2008, 04:48 AM	#22
Alpine* Colonel Drives: BSM 1M Join Date: May 2008 Location: Australia Posts: 2,919 iTrader: (0)	If I was going to stretch it I'd go some where like here... http://www.carsales.com.au/all-cars/...33157&trecs=27 Just me 2cents worth.

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