ceramic brake pads...

[135iDCT]

i want to change the stock brake pads to ceramic pads<< longer life . low dust

can some one tell me what's the best ceramic brake pads

[ModBargains IV]

Centric makes Posi-Quiet Metallic Brake Pads for your 135i - we sell it all the time.

-Frank

[robert @ eas]

We carry the Cool Carbon - Street Performance/Track Tuned (S/T) Brake Pads for your 135i I listed the features below.

Features
- Excellent initial bite
- Consistent torque
- Excellent stopping ability & temperature stability
- Very good fade resistance
- Long life, rotor friendly
- Low dust
- Virtually without noise
- Excellent for daily street use and with very good track performance

[Zeros and ones]

keep in mind that pads that last longer and have lower dust "may" not have the same braking power your stock pads have.

This is coming from a bmw mechanic:
You can not improve on the braking performance BMW gives you from your car.... unless you upgrade the brakes to a BBK.

This comes from my independent BMW mechanic from GT International Motors. He has been repairing BMW since 1976:
low dust does not mean better braking. Low dust "usually" means harder pad that intern will give you less performance when braking.

I can attest to that with my e39.

However, I still use ceramic pads on my e39 for low brake dust and that is accomplished by Akebono brake pads

[doublegbmw]

my oem front brake pads with 8mm left squeal all the time upon complete stopping...dealership after checking says this is common & i'll have to wait till pads reach 50% wear before it will stop???!!!!

will changing to other type/brand of pads stop this?

[BFD99]

I want something with as good as performance as stock if not better, and less brake dust, after a day or two of somewhat enthusiastic driving my wheels will be completely covered in brake dust. It is so annoying. BMW just replaced the pads about 1000 miles ago as well. No improvement.

[pixelblue]

Originally Posted by Zeros and ones

You can not improve on the braking performance BMW gives you from your car.... unless you upgrade the brakes to a BBK.

seriously? if you had ever tracked your 135 you would know how wrong your claim is! oem pads and brake fluid are marginal at best. a simple pad and fluid swap to higher tolerances will get you improved braking performance from your factory brakes.

[GaryS]

Originally Posted by Zeros and ones

This is coming from a bmw mechanic:
You can not improve on the braking performance BMW gives you from your car.... unless you upgrade the brakes to a BBK.

I don't agree with this. Hawk HPS pads have better performance and less dust than BMW stock pads. Cool Carbon S/T pads have better performance and much less dust. That's just two examples.

On the other hand, a BBK with the same shit Jurid pads that BMW gives us would still suck.

Sorry, but I just fucking hate those pads.

[pixelblue]

good thing he's not my mechanic

[Focusedintntions]

sigh...you'd be amazed how many mechanics i've met that know nothing about car performance...they're good at taking things apart and get lucky at putting things back together.

[Eddie135]

StopTech offers a wide range of brake pads (Available in street/track applications).

They are pretty good.

[Eddie135]

Correct me if I am wrong:
More brake dust = good braking power
Less brake dust = moderate braking

[cpt97m3]

Originally Posted by Eddie135

Correct me if I am wrong:
More brake dust = good braking power
Less brake dust = moderate braking

There is not a good correlation between the stopping power of the pad and how much dust it puts out. Some pads dust a lot because the manufacture wants to make sure the are quiet.

[Focusedintntions]

Also the amount of of visible dust and how well it sticks to wheels will vary by compounds.

[135iDCT]

Originally Posted by Eddie135

Correct me if I am wrong:
More brake dust = good braking power
Less brake dust = moderate braking

loool nice explanation dude

[135iDCT]

thanx all for the replies....

but i know there r facts of ceramic brakes...
low temp, longer life, very low dust<< maybe the main reason for me to choose ceramic
also make the rotor live longer.. not like the carbon

and i want it for normal street drive not for tracks and high performance

[135iDCT]

http://brakeperformance.com/brakes/index.php?did=1682

the prices in this site is so amazing....is it a trusted site

also what's the diff between metallic and ceramic brakes is metallic better

plz help i'll order them soon

[Zeros and ones]

Originally Posted by pixelblue

seriously? if you had ever tracked your 135 you would know how wrong your claim is! oem pads and brake fluid are marginal at best. a simple pad and fluid swap to higher tolerances will get you improved braking performance from your factory brakes.

with 1,389 posts i would think you would know how to read better. So please, re-read what I posted.

Both John Norris from GT International Motors and Mark Norris from Bavarian Autoworks track there bmw's all around the US. (note: no relation between them)

I have run your argument against both of my mechanics that have worked on my bmw's and both also say that is rubish. They have been doing it for long enough that they have tried many variables to improve braking performance to there cars with minimal cost. The only thing that did have a real positive effect was a BBK anything else was a placebo effect.

However, I am not hear to argue. I am hear to listen and learn and so far both of my mechanics haven't let me down in maintenance or tracking my cars.

[BFD99]

Originally Posted by 135iDCT

http://brakeperformance.com/brakes/index.php?did=1682

the prices in this site is so amazing....is it a trusted site

also what's the diff between metallic and ceramic brakes is metallic better

plz help i'll order them soon

Yes they are a good site. I know about 5 people who have used them with good results, just not on a BMW. Though I know they do have great customer service! My buddy bought a set of their slotted and dimpled rotors for his 07 E350 Merc, and they are doing well.

[pixelblue]

Originally Posted by Zeros and ones

with 1,389 posts i would think you would know how to read better. So please, re-read what I posted.

Both John Norris from GT International Motors and Mark Norris from Bavarian Autoworks track there bmw's all around the US. (note: no relation between them)

I have run your argument against both of my mechanics that have worked on my bmw's and both also say that is rubish. They have been doing it for long enough that they have tried many variables to improve braking performance to there cars with minimal cost. The only thing that did have a real positive effect was a BBK anything else was a placebo effect.

However, I am not hear to argue. I am hear to listen and learn and so far both of my mechanics haven't let me down in maintenance or tracking my cars.

I believe I read your post accurately as you're reiterating your earlier claim. I am not looking for an argument but if you search this forum you will quickly learn that your mechanics premise is hogwash. either way, to each his own, if you like to trust what your mechanics tells you, then by all means stick with it but the cold hard facts dispute your trusted mechanics claim. if I were you I would look elsewhere for expert advise than your current trusted circle

[pixelblue]

Originally Posted by 135iDCT

http://brakeperformance.com/brakes/index.php?did=1682

the prices in this site is so amazing....is it a trusted site

also what's the diff between metallic and ceramic brakes is metallic better

plz help i'll order them soon

OP - if you want to improve your braking and reduce the dreaded dust, I would suggest giving cool carbons a try. I am sure majority of people on this thread would agree they are better than oe pads and produce next to no dust

[Zeros and ones]

Originally Posted by pixelblue

I believe I read your post accurately as you're reiterating your earlier claim. I am not looking for an argument but if you search this forum you will quickly learn that your mechanics premise is hogwash. either way, to each his own, if you like to trust what your mechanics tells you, then by all means stick with it but the cold hard facts dispute your trusted mechanics claim. if I were you I would look elsewhere for expert advise than your current trusted circle

your comprehension of the English language is severely lacking. Nowhere in any of my posts have I said that "I" am claiming what I am stating. Those are both of my mechanics claims and I will let there awards, talents, recommendation, and word of mouth in the BMW community in CA. speak for themselves as well as many other BMW enthusiasts that track there cars.

Also this is only one forum. There are many other forums with people that track there cars that would not certainly agree with what this forums says.

But as I have found, like anything that we do these days, what one person swears by that it works without a doubt there will always be another that says, that is hogwash. Tis' is life. You can take it as you wish as well as the OP